Re: Switch to forum software?

2016-08-02 Thread 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
I can confirm what Carl just wrote. There is a whole lot more that can be done, which would help keep the FIG discussions "in control", if the email listing functionality would be approved to get dropped. This change would also mean the members would need to visit the forum to actually partici

Re: [PSR-12] Do not enforce blank line after

2016-08-02 Thread 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
+1 on blank line - simply looks cleaner IMHO. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

Re: [PSR-12] Enforce short type keywords

2016-08-02 Thread Michael Cullum
That would certainly be more in scope yes and I'd no longer have any objections but I wouldn't be in favour either; I'd say I'd then be neutral on the change. -- Michael C On 2 August 2016 at 14:24, 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group wrote: > So would it be OK if we wo

Re: [Vote] Require Aura project to replace its representative

2016-08-02 Thread Korvin Szanto
Looks like this vote is not going to pass, but I feel like I should cast my vote regardless and +0 feels like an easy way out. +1 concrete5 To me the issue is that Paul does not acknowledge that his behavior is detrimental, I have no reason to believe that he is going to make any attempt to be mo

Re: [PSR-12] Enforce short type keywords

2016-08-02 Thread Korvin Szanto
I think that's the way to go. Change it from "in both code and documentation blocks i.e." to "in code i.e." Thanks, Korvin On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:24 AM 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group wrote: > So would it be OK if we won't touch documentation i.e. remove "in both

Re: Status of PSR-12 survey

2016-08-02 Thread Korvin Szanto
Hi All, Sorry for being a little late to this party, FIG has me a little exhausted at the moment to say the least. I agree with pretty much all of the opinions and responses in this thread other than the ones saying we should wait or that we should use the survey result as gospel. We are still movi

Re: [PSR-12] Enforce short type keywords

2016-08-02 Thread 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
So would it be OK if we won't touch documentation i.e. remove "in both code and documentation blocks"? On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 1:28:07 PM UTC+3, Michael Cullum wrote: > > My main issue with this change is that it dictates how it should be used > in documentation (essentially doc blocks and

Re: A message from the Zend Framework CR team

2016-08-02 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
> On 02 Aug 2016, at 13:10, Matteo Beccati wrote: > > Hi Gary, > > On 01/08/2016 17:50, GeeH wrote: >> It was agreed as a group, that voting +1 for the replacement of Paul was >> inherently pointless, as removing Paul as the voting representative is a >> moot action resulting in no perceptible

Re: [Vote] Require Aura project to replace its representative

2016-08-02 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
-1 from Jackalope > On 29 Jul 2016, at 01:56, Samantha Quiñones wrote: > > All, > > The discussion period having concluded, I am now opening a vote on the matter > of the proposal to require the Aura project to name a new voting > representative. > > The discussion thread is available here:

Re: A message from the Zend Framework CR team

2016-08-02 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi Gary, On 01/08/2016 17:50, GeeH wrote: It was agreed as a group, that voting +1 for the replacement of Paul was inherently pointless, as removing Paul as the voting representative is a moot action resulting in no perceptible change to the situation. As Matthew was one of the public complainan

Re: [PSR-12] Enforce short type keywords

2016-08-02 Thread Michael Cullum
My main issue with this change is that it dictates how it should be used in documentation (essentially doc blocks and comments), and presently nothing (I think) in PSR-2 or PSR-12 dictates how comments or docs should be done as well as code. I'd therefore say this is out of scope. Furthermore, whi

Re: [Vote] Require Aura project to replace its representative

2016-08-02 Thread Ben Marks
+0 Magento On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 12:56:52 AM UTC+1, Samantha Quiñones wrote: > > All, > > The discussion period having concluded, I am now opening a vote on the > matter of the proposal to require the Aura project to name a new voting > representative. > > The discussion thread is availa

Re: [PSR-12] Enforce short type keywords

2016-08-02 Thread 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
PSR-5 scope is phpDoc exclusively. It cannot affect types used for typecasting. On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 6:32:45 PM UTC+3, Larry Garfield wrote: > > On 07/31/2016 02:03 PM, 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework > Interoperability Group wrote: > > For the PSR-12 coding standard I've made a ch

Re: Status of PSR-12 survey

2016-08-02 Thread 'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
We hear you. We'll collect as much data as we can. Then will build a PSR based on the data collected but not only the data collected. On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 5:51:19 PM UTC+3, Larry Garfield wrote: > > On 08/01/2016 01:32 AM, Andrew Carter wrote: > > Some projects still don't use PSR-2 beca