On 19 March 2010 10:17, Michael A. Peters wrote:
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> I don't care what people do in their code.
> I do not like released code with short tags, it has caused me problems when
> trying to run php webapps that use short tags, I have to go through the code
> and change them.
>
> So what people do with
Jan G.B. wrote:
2010/3/18 tedd :
Calling it "ranting" or "religious" unjustly demeans the discussion and is
inflammatory.
In all of this, I've simply said it's your choice.
What I said was:
*persons ranting about short open tags* *are just like some religious people
*
I don't care what peopl
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ashley Sheridan
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> On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:37 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
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> > 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> > On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:09 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
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> > > 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> > > > I
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:37 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
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> 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:09 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
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> > 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> > > I'd rather have short tags turned off than remember each t
2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
> On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:09 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
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> 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> > I'd rather have short tags turned off than remember each time that I have
> > to keep breaking up the < and ?php before I output it in-case the parser
> > gets confused.
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> Y
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:09 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
> 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
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> > I'd rather have short tags turned off than remember each time that I have
> > to keep breaking up the < and ?php before I output it in-case the parser
> > gets confused.
> >
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> You don't need to break anythin
2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
> I'd rather have short tags turned off than remember each time that I have
> to keep breaking up the < and ?php before I output it in-case the parser
> gets confused.
>
You don't need to break anything up. It's perfectly valid and without
problems:
'; ?>
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:28 AM, tedd wrote:
> At 9:34 AM + 3/18/10, Pete Ford wrote:
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>> I do tend to use > camp here.
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> Whoa, that's even worse -- make a choice and stick with it -- IMO.
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> I'm all for consistency and have often found myself redoing dozens of
> scripts because
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 17:57 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
> Sure - XML is often used and served. But in general, a web server only
> parses PHP-Files (ie. .+\.php\d?) unless you configure your server to
> parse any file or .xml files. So the XML for the interpreter.
I wasn't meaning that xml files wou
2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan
> Technically, PHP isn't embedded in any language; it's the other way around.
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> XML and PHP are used together more often than you might realise. Consider
> Ajax and RSS, which are becoming more and more popular. Also, there are
> sites out there that are almost entirel
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 17:32 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote:
> 2010/3/18 tedd :
> > Calling it "ranting" or "religious" unjustly demeans the discussion and is
> > inflammatory.
> > In all of this, I've simply said it's your choice.
>
> What I said was:
> *persons ranting about short open tags* *are just li
2010/3/18 tedd :
> Calling it "ranting" or "religious" unjustly demeans the discussion and is
> inflammatory.
> In all of this, I've simply said it's your choice.
What I said was:
*persons ranting about short open tags* *are just like some religious people
*
I did not address you.
On the other h
At 4:11 PM +0100 3/18/10, Jan G.B. wrote:
I agree.
And I believe the persons ranting about short open tags are just like
some religious people. It's almost like a war between
Linux/Windows/Mac, IE/FF or ASP/PHP.
Also, people love to recommend things that others recommended before.
It mustn't make
At 9:34 AM + 3/18/10, Pete Ford wrote:
I do tend to use middle camp here.
Whoa, that's even worse -- make a choice and stick with it -- IMO.
I'm all for consistency and have often found myself redoing dozens of
scripts because I changed something -- not because the change worked
and th
2010/3/18 Pete Ford :
> On 17/03/10 18:59, Tommy Pham wrote:
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>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Rene Veerman wrote:
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>>> hmm.. seems easier to me to push a filetree of .php's with>> the str_replace(), than it is to get all the>> with your wishes, which may not apply to their situation ;-)
On 17/03/10 18:59, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Rene Veerman wrote:
hmm.. seems easier to me to push a filetree of .php's with wrote:
At 8:55 PM -0400 3/16/10, Adam Richardson wrote:
That said, I'm not taking exception with those who don't use the short
tag, only with
At 11:59 AM -0700 3/17/10, Tommy Pham wrote:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.basic-syntax.phpmode.php
"There are four different pairs of opening and closing tags which can
be used in PHP. Two of those, and
, are always available. The other two are short tags and ASP
style tags, and can b
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Rene Veerman wrote:
> hmm.. seems easier to me to push a filetree of .php's with the str_replace(), than it is to get all the with your wishes, which may not apply to their situation ;-)
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> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:14 PM, tedd wrote:
>> At 8:55 PM -0400 3/16/
hmm.. seems easier to me to push a filetree of .php's with wrote:
> At 8:55 PM -0400 3/16/10, Adam Richardson wrote:
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>> That said, I'm not taking exception with those who don't use the short
>> tag, only with those who say I shouldn't.
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> Exception or not, it's still your choice and using shor
At 8:55 PM -0400 3/16/10, Adam Richardson wrote:
That said, I'm not taking exception with those who don't use the
short tag, only with those who say I shouldn't.
Exception or not, it's still your choice and using short tags can
cause problems.
My view, why create problems when there is a sol
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Ashley Sheridan
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> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 23:42 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
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> > maybe adding a > then deprecating >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, tedd wrote:
> > > At 5:54 PM + 3/15/10, Jochem Maas wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 23:42 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
> maybe adding a then deprecating
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, tedd wrote:
> > At 5:54 PM + 3/15/10, Jochem Maas wrote:
> >>
> >> Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
> >>>
> >>> First of all, i recommend the use of normal p
maybe adding a wrote:
> At 5:54 PM + 3/15/10, Jochem Maas wrote:
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>> Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
>>>
>>> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags ()
>>> because
>>> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
>>
>> that's a documentation error.
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>>>
>>> You
At 5:54 PM + 3/15/10, Jochem Maas wrote:
Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags () because
the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
that's a documentation error.
You should also echo your values to the page, instead using
From: Ford, Mike
> From: Ashley Sheridan
>> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +, Ford, Mike wrote:
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> >>
> >> Proof: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126832992915664&w=2
> >>
>>
>> That's not really proof of anything, it's just an archived email
>> from this list...
>
> Well, firstly it's a
> -Original Message-
> From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 March 2010 11:16
>
> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +, Ford, Mike wrote:
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> >
> > Proof: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126832992915664&w=2
> >
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> That's not really proof of anything, it'
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:16 +, Ford, Mike wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bob McConnell [mailto:r...@cbord.com]
> > Sent: 15 March 2010 18:13
> >
> > From: Jochem Maas
> >
> > > Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
> > >> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php ta
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob McConnell [mailto:r...@cbord.com]
> Sent: 15 March 2010 18:13
>
> From: Jochem Maas
>
> > Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
> >> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags ( ?>)
> because
> >> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 14:12 -0400, Bob McConnell wrote:
> From: Jochem Maas
>
> > Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
> >> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags ()
> because
> >> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
> >
> > that's a documentation error.
>
> No it
From: Jochem Maas
> Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
>> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags ()
because
>> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
>
> that's a documentation error.
No it's not. The short tags conflict with both XML and XHTML and
therefore are bei
Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef:
> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags () because
> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
that's a documentation error.
>
> You should also echo your values to the page, instead using the shortcut (stop being a lazy ass! :P):
First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags () because
the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*.
You should also echo your values to the page, instead using the shortcut
remember that between tags, we have normal php code.
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