Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On July 12, 2010 16:27:40 Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: > > if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) > > http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities > > Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical > users won't

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: > if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) > http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical users won't do that. It'd be really great if by SC 4.6 it was easily di

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

> separate UI? wuh? 1 - menu of icons and a 'more...' option 2 - standard icon chooser when 'more...' is clicked > I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's not so bad to leave it to the user. After > all, we don't try to auto-name the activity for them, new activities currently > start at "unnamed"...

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:48:39 am Ivan Čukić wrote: > > -in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like > > a combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of "20 good ones" or > > an "other..." option > > Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it

RE: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

Ok, Thanks. I will definitely check that out. peace > From: z...@kde.org > To: plasma-devel@kde.org > Subject: Re: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't > necessary > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:46:37 -0400 > > On Monday 12 July 2010 13:01:33 velociraptor Genjix wrote:

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Chani wrote: > On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: > > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > > to make people not wanting to use those > > > > Maybe it s

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:09:44 am Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > > Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > > >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > > >>> or do you have a

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > to make people not wanting to use those > > Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actu

Bug 166914: per activity task discussion

Hello, I'm posting this question mostly with my forum admin hat on, as when 4.5 will be released we'll likely get questions on this behavior. Right now, if applications are moved to another activity, they remain in the task manager. Clicking on them will switch to the task and to the relevant

Re: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

On Monday 12 July 2010 16:11:07 Giulio Camuffo wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 21:46:37 Zack Rusin wrote: > > > Is it currently possible? Plasma doesn't currently have a GL engine I > > > don't think? > > > > Just start it with "-graphicsystem opengl" and go from there. > > Wouldn't be possible t

Re: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

On Monday 12 July 2010, Giulio Camuffo wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 21:46:37 Zack Rusin wrote: > > > Is it currently possible? Plasma doesn't currently have a GL engine I > > > don't think? > > > > Just start it with "-graphicsystem opengl" and go from there. > > Wouldn't be possible to do a G

Re: Review Request: This patch adds the Storage class for Plasma::DataEngine caching. This current implementation caches to disk. Soon, it will be akonadi.

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4548/#review6511 --- Ship it! I think it can go in now /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/dataeng

Re: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

On Monday 12 July 2010 21:46:37 Zack Rusin wrote: > > Is it currently possible? Plasma doesn't currently have a GL engine I > > don't think? > > Just start it with "-graphicsystem opengl" and go from there. Wouldn't be possible to do a GL wallpaper as there is a Plasma::GLApplet? Giulio

Re: Review Request: This patch adds the Storage class for Plasma::DataEngine caching. This current implementation caches to disk. Soon, it will be akonadi.

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Re: Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

On Monday 12 July 2010 13:01:33 velociraptor Genjix wrote: > > I'm not sure what would that give you. I'm guessing you want to use > > something like XvPutImage which wouldn't work because you already > > convert the frames to RGB and basically no one accelerates Xv with RGB > > surfaces. Besides i

Re: pixmap leak in KDE 4.5 RC2

On Monday 12 July 2010, Andrei Nistor wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've noticed that the X11 memory usage in plasma is rising steadily in > plasma. A few hours after I log in, the X11 memory usage can reach 50MB. > > I've tried to track this issue down with SadEagle in #kde-devel and he > suggest

Re: Review Request: This patch adds the Storage class for Plasma::DataEngine caching. This current implementation caches to disk. Soon, it will be akonadi.

> On 2010-07-10 08:35:01, Aaron Seigo wrote: > > /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/dataengine.cpp, line 803 > > > > > > this will work ok for low latency / synchronous storage fetching, which > > is what the current implementati

Re: IRC meeting: point of what was done at akademy

WORKSFORME as well On 11 July 2010 16:21, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Sun 11 July 2010 7:32:14 am Chani wrote: >> On Saturday, July 10, 2010 03:41:47 am Marco Martin wrote: >> > On Saturday 10 July 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> > > On July 9, 2010, Marco Martin wrote: >> > > > oh, fsck, scrap that: i r

Re: Review Request: Folderview : label when empty folder

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Plasma::Wallpaper does software scaling/copying when it isn't necessary

> Really? To me it looks like you're just using sws_scale which is a software > scale. > > > but Plasma::Wallpaper requires me to still copy this array with slow > > software acceleration. If the format is correct then just give me the target > > X surface. > > I'm not sure what would that giv

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On 12/07/2010 16:34, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > Hi Aurélien! > > 2010/7/11 Aurélien Gâteau : >> I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from >> Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch is >> a first step at it, largely unfinished as I

Re: Review Request: This patch adds the Storage class for Plasma::DataEngine caching. This current implementation caches to disk. Soon, it will be akonadi.

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4548/#review6497 --- /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/datacontainer.h

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On 12/07/2010 16:42, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: >> On Monday 12 July 2010 15:33:24 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: >>> It looked like this: >>> >>> http://agateau.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/add-widget-e1278885892283.png >>> >>> It was rejected because it had the s

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On Monday 12 July 2010, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > Hi Aurélien! > > 2010/7/11 Aurélien Gâteau : > > I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from > > Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch > > is a first step at it, largely unfinishe

pixmap leak in KDE 4.5 RC2

Hello everyone, I've noticed that the X11 memory usage in plasma is rising steadily in plasma. A few hours after I log in, the X11 memory usage can reach 50MB. I've tried to track this issue down with SadEagle in #kde-devel and he suggested to use ktracepixmap and kdumppixmap from playground.

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 15:33:24 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > It looked like this: > > > > http://agateau.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/add-widget-e1278885892283.png > > > > It was rejected because it had the same problems as the KDE 4.3 dialog: > > ta

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

Hi Aurélien! 2010/7/11 Aurélien Gâteau : > I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from > Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch is > a first step at it, largely unfinished as I would like to know if you are > interested in getting this

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On Monday 12 July 2010 15:33:24 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > It looked like this: > > http://agateau.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/add-widget-e1278885892283.png > > It was rejected because it had the same problems as the KDE 4.3 dialog: > taking too much screen space. The people who rejected it obvio

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On 12/07/2010 15:07, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 13:53:10 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > >> I agree. I made a proposal for an alternative version which would >> requires no hovering to get the widget descriptions but it was rejected. > > Huh? Why? > Was it like the one in 4.3? I ha

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On Monday 12 July 2010 13:53:10 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > I agree. I made a proposal for an alternative version which would > requires no hovering to get the widget descriptions but it was rejected. Huh? Why? Was it like the one in 4.3? I had absolutely no problems with the 4.3 one. > Therefore

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 12:58:23 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > Well, I don't completely see the point of avoiding any type of > configuration to the user. IMO, when creating a new activity, the user > might be prompted to choose among a set of default activities. Those > activities might already hav

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On 12/07/2010 01:00, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 00:18:03 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: >> What do you think? > > I think that the scrollbars are an improvement, but I like the window from > 4.3 > better: The current one requires to hover over an icon to see the description. > I ha

Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On 12/07/2010 02:47, Chani wrote: > +1 from me :) just being able to see where in the list I am makes me happier. > how does it look if there aren't enough to scroll? For now it's not very nice because the scrollbar does not hide itself. I'll look into it. > P.S. Reviewboard Is Your Friend ;) D

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

> -in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like a > combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of "20 good ones" or an > "other..." option Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it is good (usability-wise) to make a separate UI for icon choosing.

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

Il 12/07/2010 13:09, Ivan Čukić ha scritto: > 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. > > 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so > making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop > empty in all activities and still w

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 12:16:04 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > me realy does not care much as long as we have something that looks > > pretty and is easy to recognize by the user, i proposed to do those > > icons because wen I saw how our Chani chose random icons to represent > > them, i had my typical "you

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. > > 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so > making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop > empty in all activities and still want

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

> me realy does not care much as long as we have something that looks pretty and > is easy to recognize by the user, i proposed to do those icons because wen I > saw how our Chani chose random icons to represent them, i had my typical "your > icons look soo ugly used like that" feeling...  so I pro

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop empty in all activities and still want to use other activity-related features. Or if you l

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 11:53:20 Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > > to make people not wanting to use those > > > > Maybe it

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > >>> or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that > >>> represent that

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: >>> or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent >>> that activity without user intervention? >> Why would Activities

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > > or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent > > that activity without user intervention? > > Why would Activities be created without user intervention? not creati

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > to make people not wanting to use those > > Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. >

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to > make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I see them as virtual desktops wit

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent > that activity without user intervention? Why would Activities be created without user intervention? ___ Plasma-devel mailing

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, nuno pinheiro wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: > > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > > represent activities in an iconic way? > > ___ > > Plasma-devel mailing lis

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > represent activities in an iconic way? > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > represent activities in an iconic way? > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Review Request: Security updates in kdeplasma-addons for 4.5

> On 2010-07-11 22:04:59, Chani Armitage wrote: > > Commited as of 1148967 and backported to 4.5 as of 1148979. Thanks. - Ryan --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4602/#review6482

Re: Review Request: Adds support for corner widgets in Plasma::TabBar

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Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui

On Monday 12 July 2010, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > Hi, > > I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from > Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch > is a first step at it, largely unfinished as I would like to know if you > are interested in

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

> now, what if $plasmoid wants to use the icon (eg, activity bar)? what if > $application wants to use the icon (eg. when associating something with an > activity)? it'd be nice if I could see the icons when assigning windows to > activities, but I dunno if that'd be possible with autogenerated one