Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Chani
On July 19, 2010 11:19:31 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > speaking of which... *coughs* we still don't have a Welcome Plasmoid, do > > we? > > Yep :) Well, this would be nice to have in the welcome plasmoid, but > it would be a *huge* thing to implement. gotta start somewhere... ___

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
> speaking of which... *coughs* we still don't have a Welcome Plasmoid, do we? Yep :) Well, this would be nice to have in the welcome plasmoid, but it would be a *huge* thing to implement. -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was stari

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Chani
On July 19, 2010 01:55:22 Ivan Čukić wrote: > >> This is just an idea that came to me looking at some mobile GUIs (or was > >> it websites?), but I think that could really work in order to have the > >> common user find out our best features. > >> > >> What do you think? > > > > problems with tho

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 19 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. > > like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 > > pixel light border inside the dark border? > > The theme can be easily changed. I'll probably leave it up to Nuno :)

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
>> This is just an idea that came to me looking at some mobile GUIs (or was it >> websites?), but I think that could really work in order to have the common >> user find out our best features. >> >> What do you think? > > problems with those things is that users tend to find this kind of things > a

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
> maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. > like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 pixel > light border inside the dark border? The theme can be easily changed. I'll probably leave it up to Nuno :) Cheerio -- While you were hanging yourself on som

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > On Tuesday 13 July 2010 10:11:46 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > To repeat Chani's question - do you have any idea how to make the more > > prominent? > > Tooltips appearing and suggesting to the user the new features? (with the > button don't show this

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > And here is the attachment pretty good. maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 pixel light border inside the dark border? just toughts > > ... i hate gmail's web

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Čukić
A small update: - KIdenticonGenerator can now create QIcons as well as QPixmaps - More states - all QIcon::Modes supported - Test applet - Rather pretty :) (maybe kdegames would like pretty marbles like this :) ) - in plasma's playground under libs (Chani will kill me for this) Todo: - needs

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 10:11:46 Ivan Čukić wrote: > To repeat Chani's question - do you have any idea how to make the more > prominent? Tooltips appearing and suggesting to the user the new features? (with the button don't show this again) I was thinking of a simple, black-ish, transparent tool

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Monday 12 July 2010 13:21:52 Marco Martin wrote: > i basically agree on all points, as probably i already said, the way i > would like more is: +1, and then a little bit more! :) -Riccardo -- Pace Peace Paix Paz Frieden Pax Pokój Friður Fred Béke 和平 Hasiti Lapé Hetep Malu Mир Wolakota Santip

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-13 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 07:34:35 Chani wrote: > how would you suggest that be done? Ask Celeste to come up with something great :-) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-13 Thread Ivan Čukić
> Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical > users won't do that. It'd be really great if by SC 4.6 it was easily I completely agree. For 4.5 it was not the case since we only scratched the surface. > discoverable for common users (and advanced users alike) what a

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On July 12, 2010 16:27:40 Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: > > if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) > > http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities > > Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical > users won't

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: > if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) > http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical users won't do that. It'd be really great if by SC 4.6 it was easily di

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
> separate UI? wuh? 1 - menu of icons and a 'more...' option 2 - standard icon chooser when 'more...' is clicked > I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's not so bad to leave it to the user. After > all, we don't try to auto-name the activity for them, new activities currently > start at "unnamed"...

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:48:39 am Ivan Čukić wrote: > > -in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like > > a combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of "20 good ones" or > > an "other..." option > > Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Chani wrote: > On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: > > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > > to make people not wanting to use those > > > > Maybe it s

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:09:44 am Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > > Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > > >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > > >>> or do you have a

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > to make people not wanting to use those > > Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actu

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 12:58:23 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > Well, I don't completely see the point of avoiding any type of > configuration to the user. IMO, when creating a new activity, the user > might be prompted to choose among a set of default activities. Those > activities might already hav

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
> -in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like a > combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of "20 good ones" or an > "other..." option Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it is good (usability-wise) to make a separate UI for icon choosing.

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
Il 12/07/2010 13:09, Ivan Čukić ha scritto: > 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. > > 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so > making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop > empty in all activities and still w

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread nuno pinheiro
On Monday 12 July 2010 12:16:04 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > me realy does not care much as long as we have something that looks > > pretty and is easy to recognize by the user, i proposed to do those > > icons because wen I saw how our Chani chose random icons to represent > > them, i had my typical "you

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. > > 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so > making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop > empty in all activities and still want

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
> me realy does not care much as long as we have something that looks pretty and > is easy to recognize by the user, i proposed to do those icons because wen I > saw how our Chani chose random icons to represent them, i had my typical "your > icons look soo ugly used like that" feeling...  so I pro

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop empty in all activities and still want to use other activity-related features. Or if you l

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread nuno pinheiro
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:53:20 Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > > to make people not wanting to use those > > > > Maybe it

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > >>> or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that > >>> represent that

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: > On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: >> On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: >>> or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent >>> that activity without user intervention? >> Why would Activities

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > > or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent > > that activity without user intervention? > > Why would Activities be created without user intervention? not creati

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough > > to make people not wanting to use those > > Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. >

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: > unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to > make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I see them as virtual desktops wit

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: > or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent > that activity without user intervention? Why would Activities be created without user intervention? ___ Plasma-devel mailing

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, nuno pinheiro wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: > > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > > represent activities in an iconic way? > > ___ > > Plasma-devel mailing lis

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread nuno pinheiro
On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > represent activities in an iconic way? > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns > represent activities in an iconic way? > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
> now, what if $plasmoid wants to use the icon (eg, activity bar)? what if > $application wants to use the icon (eg. when associating something with an > activity)? it'd be nice if I could see the icons when assigning windows to > activities, but I dunno if that'd be possible with autogenerated one

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread todd rme
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Ivan Čukić wrote: > 2. We need a list of common activities for Nuno to make icons for. > Ideas? We should get at least 20 :) At the very least the same categories found in the Application Launcher could be used, with the added advantage that they don't need separa

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread Chani
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 03:20:39 pm Ivan Čukić wrote: > Hi all, > > At aKademy, Nuno proposed a bit different design for identicons used > for plasma activities. > > 1. The identicons should be showed inside a bubble with background and > an overlay. they look pretty :) now, what if $plasmoid

Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, At aKademy, Nuno proposed a bit different design for identicons used for plasma activities. 1. The identicons should be showed inside a bubble with background and an overlay. 2. He will make some default icons for users that want to choose specific ones instead of the automatically genera