Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Vrátil
Hi! As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in comments below the blog post that it would be nice to discuss design of the KCM with you, Plasma guys. As d_ed and few others suggested, I have rewr

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:29:24 Dan Vrátil wrote: > As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display > management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in comments > below the blog post that it would be nice to discuss design of the KCM with > you, Pl

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > Hi! > > As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display > management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in comments > below the blog post that it would be nice to discuss design of the KCM with > you, Plasm

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > * no underline below the resolution > * could them be a bit spaced? now they are touching and looks quite cramped > * green rounded rectanlgles doesn't look that good ah, another thing: what is the use of that "i" icon? it seems rendered at the wr

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Vrátil
On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 14:48:25 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:29:24 Dan Vrátil wrote: > > As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display > > management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in > > comments > > below the bl

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Vrátil
On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 14:50:01 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > > Hi! > > > > As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display > > management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in > > comments > > below the blo

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Vrátil
On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 14:52:50 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > > * no underline below the resolution > > * could them be a bit spaced? now they are touching and looks quite > > cramped > > * green rounded rectanlgles doesn't look that good > > ah, an

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Nicoletti
You should also place the main view inside a framed view, so it looks more like native QWidgets. Another nice option would have no background in QML view and just be rendered into the huge gray area, maybe with an horizontal line to delimit the area with buttons.. Also copy this class to your code

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 14:52:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > > > * no underline below the resolution > > > * could them be a bit spaced? now they are touching and looks quite > > > cramped > > > * gr

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Vrátil
On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 15:17:20 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 14:52:50 Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > > > > * no underline below the resolution > > > > * could them be a bit s

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > > i was about to ask what it was for ;) > > maybe the primary should just have written "primary" in it > > the others have a "make primary" below the monitor (not in it since > > doesn't fit) > > also, what does the green thick? > > When you click th

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Dan Vrátil wrote: > > That's what I though too. But if I understand the code correctly, > > http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kde- > runtime.git&a=blob&f=plasma%2Fdeclarativeimports%2Fqtextracomponents%2Fqico > nitem.cpp > > on line 114, it forces KIconLoader to loa

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 October 2012, Daniel Nicoletti wrote: > You should also place the main view inside a framed view, > so it looks more like native QWidgets. Another nice option > would have no background in QML view and just be rendered > into the huge gray area, maybe with an horizontal line > to deli

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 14:29:24 Dan Vrátil wrote: > I'm now working on new KCM. code -- where is the code currently? i find it is often a lot easier to comment (and help out) when i can build and try the code directly duality in interaction -- my first thought is

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Dan Vrátil wrote: > Hi! > > As some might notice [0], we are working with Alex Fiestas on new display > management for KDE. I'm now working on new KCM. Aaron suggested in comments > below the blog post that it would be nice to discuss design of the KCM with > you, P

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Beat Wolf
Just a small input from an observer. I don't use a second monitor. I only open that menu when something went wrong with my resolution. For example when starting a game that reset the desktop resolution to the lowest possible one. So my suggestion is, make sure that it is possible to use this kc

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mardi 2 octobre 2012 15:33:25 Marco Martin a écrit : > > When you click the green tick, you disable the output (and it changes into > > a red cross). > > what about have two checkboxes in a column, centered in the monitor: > [ ] Primary > [ ] Enabled Yay, no checkbox controversy this way :) I

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > well, better that a rectangle :p > > anyways, could do that only the monitor below has the stand, the one > > above not (in the way they are positioned it would just look that the > > stand of the above monitor is hidden by the other one) >

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:27:47 Marco Martin a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > well, better that a rectangle :p > > > anyways, could do that only the monitor below has the stand, the one > > > above not (in the way they are positioned it would just look that

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:27:47 Marco Martin a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > well, better that a rectangle :p > > > anyways, could do that only the monitor below has the stand, the one > > > above not (in the way they are positioned it would just look that

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:27:47 Marco Martin a écrit : > > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > > well, better that a rectangle :p > > > > anyways, could do that only the monitor below has the stand, the one > > > > ab

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Quarta, 3 de Outubro de 2012 16:41:18 Marco Martin escreveu: > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:27:47 Marco Martin a écrit : > > > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > > > well, better that a rectangle :p > > > > > anyway

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 11:07:52 todd rme wrote: > 2. People have suggested a margin. Another possibility might be a > thicker border with some sort of bezel or gradient. That would this is unlikely to fix the visual issues; margins are negative space. > 1. is there any sort of snapping?

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Dan Vrátil
On Tuesday 02 of October 2012 16:23:02 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 14:29:24 Dan Vrátil wrote: > > I'm now working on new KCM. > > code > -- > where is the code currently? i find it is often a lot easier to comment (and > help out) when i can build and try the code dire

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread todd rme
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> 2. Can users move the screens by small amounts using the arrow keys? > > what's the use case for this? It is hard to move objects by small increments using the mouse, especially along a single axis. >> 3. When you move secondary screens,

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 12:49:42 todd rme wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> 2. Can users move the screens by small amounts using the arrow keys? > > > > what's the use case for this? > > It is hard to move objects by small increments using the mouse, > esp

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 04 October 2012, todd rme wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> 2. Can users move the screens by small amounts using the arrow keys? > > > > what's the use case for this? > > It is hard to move objects by small increments using the mouse, > especially a

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Christoph Feck
On Thursday 04 October 2012 13:23:18 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2012, todd rme wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > >> 2. Can users move the screens by small amounts using the arrow > > >> keys? > > > > > > what's the use case for this? > > > >

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le jeudi 4 octobre 2012 13:38:06 Christoph Feck a écrit : > On Thursday 04 October 2012 13:23:18 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Thursday 04 October 2012, todd rme wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo > > wrote: > > > >> 2. Can users move the screens by small amounts using the

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 14:01:04 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > Yes, that happens to me when I use my laptop with an external monitor: the > bottom of the two screens do not line up, in which case does one NOT want the bottoms to line up? could we: * stipulate that at least one edge is always ali

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 13:38:06 Christoph Feck wrote: > Having two monitors placed side-by-side, you want to be able > to correctly vertically align them. can you define "correctly vertically align them"? (just so i understand exactly what you are proposing :) -- Aaron J. Seigo signature

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Christoph Feck
On Thursday 04 October 2012 14:45:14 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 13:38:06 Christoph Feck wrote: > > Having two monitors placed side-by-side, you want to be able > > to correctly vertically align them. > > can you define "correctly vertically align them"? (just so i > under

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Oct 4, 2012 2:02 PM, "Aurélien Gâteau" wrote: > > > There could be an "Advanced" mode, > > where you can set pixel positions, refresh rates, etc. > > I don't think you need an advanced mode: in the proposed UI it should be > doable to implement adjusting the position with the arrow keys. This d

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-04 Thread Christoph Feck
On Thursday 04 October 2012 15:41:56 Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Oct 4, 2012 2:02 PM, "Aurélien Gâteau" wrote: > > > There could be an "Advanced" mode, > > > where you can set pixel positions, refresh rates, etc. > > > > I don't think you need an advanced mode: in the proposed UI it > > should be

Re: Display Configuration KCM design review

2012-10-05 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le jeudi 4 octobre 2012 14:44:40 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 14:01:04 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > Yes, that happens to me when I use my laptop with an external monitor: the > > bottom of the two screens do not line up, > > in which case does one NOT want the bottoms to l