PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Monday 29 March 2010 21:02:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > thoughts? I don't agree with the "PMC should target notebooks" as primary usecase bit. I really think that this thing should be developed to have its UI run on a TV, preferably HD- Ready or Full-HD resolution. Those devices tend to be eas

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
2010/3/30 Sebastian Kügler > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:02:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > thoughts? > > I don't agree with the "PMC should target notebooks" as primary usecase > bit. I really > think that this thing should be developed to have its UI run on a TV, > preferably HD- > Ready or Full-HD

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > (*) I've played around with a wiimote last weekend and now have a Qt-style > class that can be used to interact with the features of a wiimote, > buttons, LEDs, accelerometers and haptic feedback at this point. I've got > myself a copy of O'Reilly

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:00:27 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > > (*) I've played around with a wiimote last weekend and now have a > > Qt-style class that > > can be used to interact with the features of a wiimote, buttons, LEDs, > > accelerometers > > and haptic feedback at this point. I've got my

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:10:46 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > (*) I've played around with a wiimote last weekend and now have a > > Qt-style class that can be used to interact with the features of a > > wiimote, buttons, LEDs, accelerometers and hapti

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:12:04 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:00:27 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > > > (*) I've played around with a wiimote last weekend and now have a > > > Qt-style class that > > > can be used to interact with the features of a wiimote, buttons, LEDs, > >

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
Hey everybody, I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for playback control (and mode switching) and will use a bottom panel for displaying information about media. The bottom panel might be reusable for a

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:22:16 Christophe Olinger wrote: > I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" > screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for > playback control (and mode switching) and will use a bottom panel for > displaying information a

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > Hey everybody, > > I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" > screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for > playback control (and mode switching) and will use a bottom panel for i don't think

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> Hey everybody, >> >> I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" >> screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for >> playback control (and mo

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > >> Hey everybody, > >> > >> I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" > >> screens right down to 5" screens.

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread nuno pinheiro
A Terça, 30 de Março de 2010 12:17:03 Sebastian Kügler você escreveu: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:12:04 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 13:00:27 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: > > > > (*) I've played around with a wiimote last weekend and now have a > > > > Qt-style class that >

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
2010/3/30 Marco Martin > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > >> Hey everybody, > > >> > > >> I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" >

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: >> > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> >> Hey everybody, >> >> >> >> I think it will be really difficult to have

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
Hallo Nuno, I actually took your mocks in the MOCKS folder in SVN for the basic UI. One top panel with controls, one bottom panel with information (like a music anlayzer for example). In the middle a browser with a big grid layout of our items. What would be cool is a mockup of a Home Screen for P

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > >> >> Hey every

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marco Martin wrote: >> > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: >> >> > On Tuesda

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread daitheflu
Hi list, I'm new here, so please be indulgent :) - "Marco Martin" a écrit : > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marco Martin > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Ma

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM, wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm new here, so please be indulgent :) So am I :-) > > > - "Marco Martin" a écrit : > >> On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marco Martin >> wrote: >> > > On Tuesday 30 March 201

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, daithe...@free.fr wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm new here, so please be indulgent :) > > > i fear this is just useless code duplication, really. > > for this fullscreen menu you need exactly the same functionality of > > the > > browser. > > I might misunderstood the aim of

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > > > i fear this is just useless code duplication, really. > > for this fullscreen menu you need exactly the same functionality of the > > browser. > > Wouldn't it just be different startup models? > > > (see ugly mockup here: general home

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:02:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> thoughts? > > I don't agree with the "PMC should target notebooks" as primary usecase bit. > I really > think that this thing should be developed to have its UI run on a TV, > pre

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread daitheflu
- "todd rme" a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Sebastian Kügler > wrote: > > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:02:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> thoughts? > > > > I don't agree with the "PMC should target notebooks" as primary > usecase bit. I really > > think that this thing should be d

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
Hello, Whoa, just been off for few hours and so much discussion! Too bad I arrived late :P Christohpe, as Marco said, we will be having the Browser display the list of plugins (and hence modes) anyway, so we can maximize it to the whole screen and kind of use it as the Home applet. But yes, if

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 16:59:54 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > Whoa, just been off for few hours and so much discussion! Too bad > I arrived late :P > > Christohpe, as Marco said, we will be having the Browser display the > list of plugins (and hence modes) anyway, so we can maximize it to the

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 16:56:44 daithe...@free.fr wrote: > - "todd rme" a écrit : > > I don't think focusing this on HD devices is necessarily a good move. > > There are still a huge number of standard-definition TV's out there > > and there probably will be for some time. > > > I agree, + n

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 16:59:54 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: >>     Whoa, just been off for few hours and so much discussion! Too bad >> I arrived late :P >> >> Christohpe, as Marco said, we will be having the Browser display the >> list o

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 30, 2010, Marco Martin wrote: > that "home applet" if you want it really isolated could be a different > containment, so would be a totally standaloe fullscreen thing, but i don't > think i like it. it can almost certainly be run in the same, simple "full screen" containment that the ful

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 30, 2010, Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, daithe...@free.fr wrote: > > I might misunderstood the aim of the "browser", but I don't think this > > will be code duplication : you don't browse Music the same way you > > browse Movies or TV Shows, do you ? > > yes i do, what c

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 30, 2010, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > The thing can run on a conventional notebook, or netbook, or whatever > > hardware you want it to, the important things when using a TV as output > > device are: > > > > - input: mice don'

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 30, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 16:56:44 daithe...@free.fr wrote: > > - "todd rme" a écrit : > > > I don't think focusing this on HD devices is necessarily a good move. > > > There are still a huge number of standard-definition TV's out there > > > and the

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-30 Thread Christophe Olinger
I'll try to update the wiki page today adding the things we discussed here and also the StateMachine Rewriting. I'll get some hacking time maybe in the evening but I'll make sure to learn all about StateMachines before that. Cheerioh Chris On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrot

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread Alexis Ménard
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:02:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> thoughts? > > I don't agree with the "PMC should target notebooks" as primary usecase bit. > I really > think that this thing should be developed to have its UI run on a TV, > pr

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread daitheflu
Hi guys, - "Christophe Olinger" a écrit : > I'll try to update the wiki page today adding the things we discussed > here and also the StateMachine Rewriting. About the top bar discussion, I would strongly recommend not to do that. A menu (or whatever you call it, for me it's just a menu)

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 09:37:30 Alexis Ménard wrote: > > The key is really to support commodity hardware, things people already > > have or can get rather inexpensively and turn it into a media center > > with little effort (basically install PMC, and hook up the TV to it). > > And why not tar

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread Christophe Olinger
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, wrote: > > About the top bar discussion, I would strongly recommend not to do that. A > menu (or whatever you call it, for me it's just a menu) has to be the same > everywhere. I do not really agree here. When viewing pictures, I do not neet a seek slider and

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread daitheflu
Hi there, Thanks for your answer Christophe, - "Christophe Olinger" a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, wrote: > > > > > About the top bar discussion, I would strongly recommend not to do > that. A menu (or whatever you call it, for me it's just a menu) has to > be the same ev

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 31, 2010, daithe...@free.fr wrote: > menu (or whatever you call it, for me it's just a menu) has to be the same > everywhere. it isn't a menu, it's a contextual controls bar. it can't be the same everywhere, since neither the context is consistent nor could we fit everything on there wit

Re: PMC use case

2010-03-31 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 31, 2010, daithe...@free.fr wrote: > I'd rather put the whole "mode access" to a dedicated panel that wouldn't > change. this is the home page. > And keep the controls in the top bar or wherever you want. (I'm that's the idea. > still not convinced that a common control bar is the bes