Re: [Powerdevil] [Bug 348082] monitor is randomly powered back on when using ddcutil support

2021-07-29 Thread Méven
> How can i get myself off the email CC list for this bug? > I don't know how the "Add me to the CC list" box got ticked as I've never referenced this bug in any way. If i untick it and save, it comes back as ticked. You are not in the CC list of this bug, I checked your email. The tick of the ch

Re: [Powerdevil] [Bug 348082] monitor is randomly powered back on when using ddcutil support

2021-07-29 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:32 PM Ianseeks wrote: > On Wednesday, 28 July 2021 15:16:05 BST Nate Graham wrote: > > 348082 > HI > HI Ian, > How can i get myself off the email CC list for this bug? > I don't know how the "Add me to the CC list" box got ticked as I've never > referenced this bug in

Re: [Powerdevil] [Bug 348082] monitor is randomly powered back on when using ddcutil support

2021-07-28 Thread Ianseeks
On Wednesday, 28 July 2021 15:16:05 BST Nate Graham wrote: > 348082 HI How can i get myself off the email CC list for this bug? I don't know how the "Add me to the CC list" box got ticked as I've never referenced this bug in any way. If i untick it and save, it comes back as ticked. regards

Re: Microsoft taking inspiration from Plasma slogan

2021-06-29 Thread Agustin Benito (toscalix)
Hello, I see it as an opportunity, a big one. On Tue, 29 Jun 2021, 11:30 Lydia Pintscher, wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM David Redondo > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > after many people saying that Windows 11 looks a bit similar to Plasma > (which > > is not the focus of this message, p

Re: The unfortunate state of Plasma's stable branch CI coverage

2021-06-29 Thread David Redondo
I executed the steps that David described and the dependency builds did succeed and the build queue is still filled at this moment. But the stable jobs should now be on 5.22 I hope. Regards, David

Re: Microsoft taking inspiration from Plasma slogan

2021-06-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM David Redondo wrote: > > Hi, > > after many people saying that Windows 11 looks a bit similar to Plasma (which > is not the focus of this message, please don't start discussing it in detail). > They are now using a very familiar slogan to promote Windows 11. Go to

Re: The unfortunate state of Plasma's stable branch CI coverage

2021-06-28 Thread David Edmundson
It is unfortunate. It has been noticed and discussed, but I think everyone just expected someone else to do it. >and there were 3 releases from 5.22 already. Yeah, that's from ideal! > So I wonder how this can be made part of the release process to make sure we have CI coverage for Plasma's stab

Re: Maliit as Plasma's on-screen keyboard

2021-06-28 Thread Nicolas Fella
Hi, On 28.06.21 09:12, Tobias C. Berner wrote: Moin moin I'm a bit concerned about it seeming to be built on a stack of abandonware -- qtfeedback (no release), and presage (2015). mfg Tobias On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 16:38, Aleix Pol wrote: Dear distros, It's been pointed out to me that we ne

Re: Maliit as Plasma's on-screen keyboard

2021-06-28 Thread Tobias C. Berner
Moin moin I'm a bit concerned about it seeming to be built on a stack of abandonware -- qtfeedback (no release), and presage (2015). mfg Tobias On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 16:38, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Dear distros, > It's been pointed out to me that we never formally explained our > relationship wit

Re: Feedback and problems regarding the application launcher

2021-06-26 Thread Noah Davis
rominently at the > top. Which makes it the worst case for most users. > No, the excuse that people won't install stuff they will not use > does not fly. > > - The old problem of menus changing on hover has re-appeared. > Users not so adapt with the mouse will not move the

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:38 AM David Edmundson wrote: > > We discussed this some more, and we are not in favour of moving > forwards for Fedora: > > Reasons given were: > - It either cuts into our beta period, or causes us issues with > framework releases. > - Fedora has regular releases anyway

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-25 Thread Aleix Pol
I sent an e-mail to kde-distro-packag...@kde.org. Hopefully they'll pick up on that. :) Thanks Jonathan! Aleix On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:43 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Great thanks. > > Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I missed that. > > Jonathan > > > On Thu, 24 Jun

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-25 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed. > > It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in favor > of external virtual keyboards." > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972 > > An

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread David Edmundson
We discussed this some more, and we are not in favour of moving forwards for Fedora: Reasons given were: - It either cuts into our beta period, or causes us issues with framework releases. - Fedora has regular releases anyway - It collides with the promo plans above - .0 releases tend to not be

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-24 Thread Nate Graham
Indeed, I know it is missing in at least openSUSE TW and Fedora. See: - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1184014 - https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/90 Nate On 6/24/21 3:42 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: Great thanks. Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I mi

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-24 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Great thanks. Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I missed that. Jonathan On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 20:21, Nicolas Fella wrote: > Hi, > > On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed. > > Technically spe

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-24 Thread Nicolas Fella
Hi, On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote: It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed. Technically speaking it does not expect Maliit, any keyboard implementing the required Wayland protocol will do. Maliit happens to be the one we tend to test and it's what we

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

2021-06-24 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard kcm? https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard Jonathan On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 19:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed. > > It's discussed here that "The

Re: Feedback and problems regarding the application launcher

2021-06-23 Thread Tom Zander
ft is sorted alphabetically, with fun things like "All" and "Development" in English being prominently at the top. Which makes it the worst case for most users. No, the excuse that people won't install stuff they will not use does not fly. - The old problem of menus ch

Re: Plasma 5.22.2

2021-06-22 Thread Jonathan Riddell
All the source tars have now been rerolled because the internal version in CMakeLists.txt had not been updated. https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.22.2 On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 18:51, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Plasma 5.22.2 is now released > https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.22.2 >

Re: Plasma 5.22.2

2021-06-22 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Sorry folks it seems I failed to update the version numbers in the cmake files, I'll reroll Jonathan On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 18:51, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Plasma 5.22.2 is now released > https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.22.2 >

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-21 Thread David Edmundson
I have booked all Friday morning for a super fun activity. Group bug triage! It'll be more fun than it sounds. Albeit that is quite a low bar to beat :) David

Re: Monday meeting notes for 14/06/2021

2021-06-14 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 7:02 PM David Redondo wrote: > > Am Montag, 14. Juni 2021, 15:43:52 CEST schrieb Nate Graham: > > KGlobaAccel seems somewhat fragile; I feel like every time anyone > > touches anything about it, stuff breaks. Is it possible to improve unit > > test coverage for it? > > I do

Re: Monday meeting notes for 14/06/2021

2021-06-14 Thread Nate Graham
So we need better documentation and sample code, then? Nate On 6/14/21 11:02 AM, David Redondo wrote: Am Montag, 14. Juni 2021, 15:43:52 CEST schrieb Nate Graham: KGlobaAccel seems somewhat fragile; I feel like every time anyone touches anything about it, stuff breaks. Is it possible to impro

Re: Monday meeting notes for 14/06/2021

2021-06-14 Thread David Redondo
Am Montag, 14. Juni 2021, 15:43:52 CEST schrieb Nate Graham: > KGlobaAccel seems somewhat fragile; I feel like every time anyone > touches anything about it, stuff breaks. Is it possible to improve unit > test coverage for it? I don't think more testing of KGlobalAccel would solve the problem. The

Re: Monday meeting notes for 14/06/2021

2021-06-14 Thread Nate Graham
On 6/14/21 5:11 AM, Marco Martin wrote: David R * Krunner shortcut migration in 5.22 contained two errors * 1. from 5.21 to 5.22 fixed by https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/921 * And from really old plasma (before we were using desktop file for shortcust to 5.22) fix

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-14 Thread Marco Martin
editable link, *should* be: https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad&openfile=2007437 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:59 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > trying again, with a link which hopefully works: > https://share.kde.org/s/ixNaQxyybz2NHpE > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:48 AM Marco Ma

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-10 Thread Marco Martin
trying again, with a link which hopefully works: https://share.kde.org/s/ixNaQxyybz2NHpE On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:48 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > I started a very sparsely populated notepad here: > https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad&openfile=2007437 > > On Thu, Jun 10, 202

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-10 Thread Marco Martin
I started a very sparsely populated notepad here: https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad&openfile=2007437 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent e

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts integrate > and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of > present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API > redesign and QtQuick in

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-09 Thread Nicolas Fella
On 07/06/2021 10:42, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, Do we want a plasma bof at akademy? often we do a full day one, which may or may not be useful, depending on what topic we do have. Personally i would like to make one about plasma 6 Any day/time preference? other topics? Hi, in terms of topics

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Paul Brown
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:59:37 CEST Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed > that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31 > September--

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Ianseeks
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:59:37 BST Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed > that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31 > September

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Seems a friendly thing to do. We can discuss it during the kickoff session at akademy. Jonathan On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 14:59, Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora packagers about this,

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 11:27 AM Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > Hi, > > Was already asking :) I'd prefer Mon or Tue. An almost-all-day on tuesday? (on mon there is also the agm that may conflict?) -- Marco Martin

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
As discussed at the meeting yesterday one obvious topic is 5.23 kickoff to schedule the next release Jonathan

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-07 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:43 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > Hi all, > Do we want a plasma bof at akademy? > often we do a full day one, which may or may not be useful, > depending on what topic we do have. > Personally i would like to make one about plasma 6 > Any day/time preference? other topics? W

Re: Plasma 5.22 tars available

2021-06-07 Thread Jonathan Riddell
And now an updated kwin tar kwin;Plasma/5.22;44539bce74ad99b476ced6a1c7d0e3a7e6f7f535;kwin-5.22.0.tar.xz;56e6cfe23d445b1ee0650c5ac484e8cc63ba39e2f2d77a0d32c4c23905cc0e01 On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 17:00, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > An updated plasma-workspace tar is now available > > > plasma-workspa

Re: Plasma 5.22 tars available

2021-06-07 Thread Jonathan Riddell
An updated plasma-workspace tar is now available plasma-workspace;Plasma/5.22;fd513da3544bf2ae7057a2ff7b9f277b77820c93;plasma-workspace-5.22.0.tar.xz;1ed41a30208d87f7586734fa0ee84eb308f5da57ea614ef537171eac877c Jonathan On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 13:54, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Tars are avai

Re: Akademy Plasma Bof

2021-06-07 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Hi, Was already asking :) I'd prefer Mon or Tue. Cheers Kai Uwe

Re: Plasma 5.22 tars available

2021-06-03 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Updated tars are available http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/5.22.0-release-data On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 13:54, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Tars are available to packagers for packaging, release is due on Tuesday > > Jonathan > >

Re: [Feature request] A touch layout option for Application launcher

2021-06-01 Thread Nate Graham
Hello Regern, It sounds like you would be a fan of this feature request being implemented: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434736 Nate On 5/29/21 2:47 PM, Regern Faraja wrote: The current layout of Application launcher is perfect for use with a mouse or touchpad. However when it comes

Re: About some old and hard to maintain effects

2021-06-01 Thread Nate Graham
Of those, I think the cube effect will be the only one missed by a significant number of people. Maybe we could prioritize rewriting that one after the scene redesign, and let the other three die a dignified death? Nate

Re: About some old and hard to maintain effects

2021-06-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 10:22 AM Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: > > On 5/31/21 4:43 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Do you think these effects could be implemented using other > > non-deprecated abstractions? > > Yes. Those effects need to render every animated window into an > offscreen texture and then do thei

Re: [Feature request] A touch layout option for Application launcher

2021-06-01 Thread Tom
Give Application Dashboard a try. It is what I use on my touchscreen laptop. Its fullscreen and uses the screen space by offering categories. UX you posted makes more sense on a screen that is severely space restricted, which is where plasma-mobile has a launcher which is similar to what you sho

Re: About some old and hard to maintain effects

2021-06-01 Thread Tom
On Monday, 31 May 2021 10:53:58 CEST Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: > The effects that we would like to drop are > > * coverswitch > * cube > * cubeslide > * flipswitch So, I wanted to go and check them. The result is that they all have big UX issues. Like assuming 4 virtual desktops and only one monit

Re: About some old and hard to maintain effects

2021-05-31 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 5/31/21 4:43 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: Do you think these effects could be implemented using other non-deprecated abstractions? Yes. Those effects need to render every animated window into an offscreen texture and then do their thing, e.g. map the offscreen texture on a cube or a cylinder, etc.

Re: About some old and hard to maintain effects

2021-05-31 Thread Aleix Pol
ome rendering > logic and porting effects to the new apis. However, there are still a > few problematic effects. These effects are **massive** code-wise and not > many people fully understand how they work. Another issue with them is > that they use QTimeLine not the way it's designe

Re: Plasma Mobile weekly meetings

2021-05-28 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:01 PM Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi, > Since recent developments it seems like it would make sense to come up > with a way to stay in touch and sync on a regular basis. > https://invent.kde.org/groups/plasma-mobile/-/issues > > Treat this as a weekly thing so we can trust that

Re: Plasma Mobile weekly meetings

2021-05-26 Thread Marco Martin
Note this is for a weekly meeting, I did mark to be in for wednesday, even tough I will be away this next wednesday On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:01 PM Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi, > Since recent developments it seems like it would make sense to come up > with a way to stay in touch and sync on a regular

Re: #plasma Matrix group does not seem to be accepting connections

2021-05-26 Thread Tom Zander
On dinsdag 25 mei 2021 18:58:47 CEST Nate Graham wrote: > Huh, maybe I got confused by the history not loading. I've noticed this issue some months ago. It basically doesn't do anything until at least one new item shows up (in element). Is an interesting issue, but good to know its not connected

Re: #plasma Matrix group does not seem to be accepting connections

2021-05-25 Thread Nate Graham
Huh, maybe I got confused by the history not loading. Nate On 5/25/21 10:51 AM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: El mar, 25 de may. de 2021 a la(s) 13:19, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org) escribió: Hello folks, I can't connect to the #plasma group using a Matrix client right now. Is anyone else experiencing

Re: #plasma Matrix group does not seem to be accepting connections

2021-05-25 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
El mar, 25 de may. de 2021 a la(s) 13:19, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org) escribió: > > Hello folks, > I can't connect to the #plasma group using a Matrix client right now. Is > anyone else experiencing the same issue? > > Nate >From the IRC side I see you already in the channel... -- Nicolás

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-24 Thread Nate Graham
It seems like there is broad agreement to remove these bots. I will file a sysadmin task on Phabricator to follow up. Nate

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-20 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:40 AM Carson Black wrote: > Or in the territory of using a Matrix bot to post commits, I could add > Matrix capabilities to my bot [1] that's already been monitoring > invent.kde.org for roughly a year now and has been posting notifications > to Telegram for that time. >

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread argonel
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:02 PM Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > > or we can move those bots to some other channels like #xyz-commits (e.g. > #plasma-commits ) The commits seen in #plasma are also being sent to #kde-commits. > Ömer Fadıl Usta > PGP key : 0xfd11561976b1690b > about.me/omerusta > > > Al

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread Ömer Fadıl USTA
or we can move those bots to some other channels like #xyz-commits (e.g. #plasma-commits ) Ömer Fadıl Usta PGP key : 0xfd11561976b1690b about.me/omerusta Aleix Pol , 20 May 2021 Per, 02:56 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:38 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > > > I find it rather diffi

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:38 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > I find it rather difficult to use #plasma for chats and discussions > because of the near-constant spam from the commit announcement bot. > > It's not that it's useless to have commits announced, but when it > happens in a room where humans ar

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread Carson Black
Or in the territory of using a Matrix bot to post commits, I could add Matrix capabilities to my bot [1] that's already been monitoring invent.kde.org for roughly a year now and has been posting notifications to Telegram for that time. [1] https://invent.kde.org/cblack/kijetesantakalu_lukin Carl

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, 20 May 2021, 6:48 am Carl Schwan, wrote: > Le mercredi, mai 19, 2021 8:37 PM, Nate Graham a écrit : > > > I find it rather difficult to use #plasma for chats and discussions > > because of the near-constant spam from the commit announcement bot. > > > > It's not that it's useless to have

Re: Can we remove or quiet down the commit bot in the chatrooms

2021-05-19 Thread Carl Schwan
Le mercredi, mai 19, 2021 8:37 PM, Nate Graham a écrit : > I find it rather difficult to use #plasma for chats and discussions > because of the near-constant spam from the commit announcement bot. > > It's not that it's useless to have commits announced, but when it > happens in a room where huma

Re: Thoughts about architectural changes in Plasma 6

2021-05-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:57 PM David Edmundson wrote: > > > though would be two different mainfiles in the package depending if > > it's loaded as containment or as an applet? > > Yes. Either potentially we can use the "X-Plasma-MainScript" property > in the metadata , or worst case we install a

Re: Thoughts about architectural changes in Plasma 6

2021-05-14 Thread David Edmundson
> though would be two different mainfiles in the package depending if > it's loaded as containment or as an applet? Yes. Either potentially we can use the "X-Plasma-MainScript" property in the metadata , or worst case we install as two packages and they both pull in the same private library. > --

Re: Thoughts about architectural changes in Plasma 6

2021-05-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 1:24 AM David Edmundson wrote: > > On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:52 PM Marco Martin wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Since KF6 work is starting, I've been thinkig a lot how i would like > > plasma to be refatored, since now there may be a window of doing some > > incompatible change

Re: Thoughts about architectural changes in Plasma 6

2021-05-13 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:52 PM Marco Martin wrote: > > Hi all, > Since KF6 work is starting, I've been thinkig a lot how i would like > plasma to be refatored, since now there may be a window of doing some > incompatible changes. > Here is a write down of this, wall of text ahead, I *hope* i expl

Re: KDE CI: Plasma » plasma-workspace » kf5-qt5 SUSEQt5.15 - Build # 1254 - Still Failing!

2021-05-05 Thread Bhushan Shah
My fault [2021-05-05T08:09:59.342Z] /home/jenkins/workspace/Plasma/plasma-workspace/ kf5-qt5 SUSEQt5.15/kcms/notifications/kcm.cpp:48:10: fatal error: notificationmanager/badgesettings.h: No such file or directory Potential fix for this, https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_re

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-05-04 Thread David Edmundson
On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:05 AM Bhushan Shah wrote: > > On Thursday, 29 April, 2021 4:40:35 PM IST David Edmundson wrote: > > At the end of the day is the soft freeze for Plasma 5.22, with the > > beta out on the 13th of May. > > > > After this point we should avoid any huge refactors and big feat

Re: Monday meeting notes for 3/5/2021

2021-05-03 Thread Nate Graham
On 5/3/21 4:43 AM, Marco Martin wrote: Alex * I would like to ask for opinions on how to handle the case where systemsettings is not installed, but the one wants to launch a KCM. We should probably open kcmshell in this case, yeah. Nate

Re: Re-purposing KWaylandServer

2021-05-03 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
Hi, It looks like we've reached a conclusion. The most compelling option is to bring KWaylandServer under KWin's umbrella instead. The current architecture doesn't work and it makes it harder to push the wayland progress forward. I'll start the work on importing KWaylandServer after Plasma/

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-05-03 Thread Bhushan Shah
On Thursday, 29 April, 2021 4:40:35 PM IST David Edmundson wrote: > At the end of the day is the soft freeze for Plasma 5.22, with the > beta out on the 13th of May. > > After this point we should avoid any huge refactors and big features > until we split the branch. > > Small features and change

Re: Port system tray away from SNI dataengine

2021-05-03 Thread Marco Martin
On domenica 2 maggio 2021 13:48:06 CEST Konrad Materka wrote: > Hi, > > I think I'm finally ready to take https://phabricator.kde.org/T13319 :) > What is the best approach to DataEngine migration? It was/is a singleton, > but System Tray can be instanced several times. In addition the SNI model >

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-30 Thread Carl Schwan
Le jeudi, avril 29, 2021 1:10 PM, David Edmundson a écrit : > At the end of the day is the soft freeze for Plasma 5.22, with the > beta out on the 13th of May. > > After this point we should avoid any huge refactors and big features > until we split the branch. > > Small features and changes can

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-30 Thread David Edmundson
>Shall we go ahead with https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/560 or We have this freeze to give ourselves a target and make sure we don't have people merging in a whole new KCM rewrite or doing something controversial. Hard feature freeze is still at the beta. This is re

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-30 Thread Harald Sitter
Shall we go ahead with https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/560 or postpone for 5.23? On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Edmundson wrote: > > At the end of the day is the soft freeze for Plasma 5.22, with the > beta out on the 13th of May. > > After this point we sho

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-29 Thread Jonathan Riddell
> ksystemstats (which is in your list) is new. libksysguard shouldn't be > removed, but ksysguard can be. > > Ah yes, I've updated the list now https://invent.kde.org/sdk/releaseme/-/blob/master/plasma/plasma-git-repos bluedevil breeze breeze-grub breeze-gtk breeze-plymouth discover drkonqi kactiv

Re: Re-purposing KWaylandServer

2021-04-29 Thread Nicolas Fella
Hi, I noticed that the current split makes it very hard to perform git bisect on kwin given its close relation to kwayland-server. Therefore big +1 from me to incorporating kwaylandserver into the kwin repo. Cheers Nico On 4/29/21 3:14 PM, Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: On 4/28/21 4:27 PM, Aleix Pol

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-29 Thread Arjen Hiemstra
On Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:52:11 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > List of git repos I have to turn into tars for Plasma 5.22: > > bluedevil breeze breeze-grub breeze-gtk breeze-plymouth discover drkonqi > kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-gtk-config kdecoration kdeplasma-addons > kgamma5 khotke

Re: Re-purposing KWaylandServer

2021-04-29 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 4/28/21 4:27 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: +1 for unifying them and refactoring all within a product. It must stay properly separate but it would allow us to organise the If kwaylandserver is integrated with the rest of kwin, it will be possible to simplify some protocols as wayland bits will be abl

Re: 5.22 Soft Freeze

2021-04-29 Thread Jonathan Riddell
List of git repos I have to turn into tars for Plasma 5.22: bluedevil breeze breeze-grub breeze-gtk breeze-plymouth discover drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-gtk-config kdecoration kdeplasma-addons kgamma5 khotkeys kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen kscreenlocker ksshaskpass ksysguard ksys t

Re: Re-purposing KWaylandServer

2021-04-28 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:27 AM Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: > > On 3/23/21 6:27 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: > > I don't feel like there's a use-case for it. > > > > I also don't have the feeling that having 2 separate repositories help > > with anything. Moving code from one side to another is cumbersome and

Re: Re-purposing KWaylandServer

2021-04-28 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 3/23/21 6:27 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: I don't feel like there's a use-case for it. I also don't have the feeling that having 2 separate repositories help with anything. Moving code from one side to another is cumbersome and makes history tracking more complex. I think it would be even cool if we

Re: Plasma5Support

2021-04-28 Thread Marco Martin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:00 AM Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi Marco, > I'm not sure I fully understand what the plan is there. Why are you > calling it plasma5support? Is it so it can be deprecated? yes, the idea for dataengines and potentially other things is to be deprecated and be gradually ported o

Re: Plasma5Support

2021-04-27 Thread Aleix Pol
Hi Marco, I'm not sure I fully understand what the plan is there. Why are you calling it plasma5support? Is it so it can be deprecated? The second link with the port got lost in the way somehow (you added the same URL twice). It might help understand what you have in mind. Including the dependenc

Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-23 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
(cc: plasma-devel for heads-up, not subscribed there, please re: only to kfd) Am Samstag, 17. April 2021, 16:11:24 CEST schrieb Luigi Toscano: > Several "needs input" tasks are related to Plasma. > Maybe it would be better to focus on Plasma next time and involve Plasma > p

Re: Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-20 Thread Marco Martin
On sabato 17 aprile 2021 16:38:32 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > It seems these days the only real user of plasma-frameworks & krunner > libraries is the Plasma shell itself, with other applications only providing > plugins/extensions and only targeting Plasma again. IIRC Amarok was the > o

Re: Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-19 Thread David Edmundson
> It seems these days the only real user of plasma-frameworks & krunner > libraries is the Plasma shell itself, with other applications only providing > plugins/extensions and only targeting Plasma again. That is mostly in line with other discussions in plasma. There is a ticket splitting plasma-f

Re: Including LayerShellQt in Plasma in time for 5.22

2021-04-15 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 7:12 PM Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi, > In Plasma we have wanted a way to work with wlr_layer_shell for a > while, I'd tried taking this weird route, where we were adding it into > the project ad hoc, but it didn't really go anywhere. > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kscreenlocker

Re: KDE Startmenü

2021-04-13 Thread Nate Graham
Hello Rolf, This setting affects tabs, not categories. It has confused other people in the past, so we have removed it for Plasma 5.22. Nate -- Hallo Rolf, Diese Einstellung wirkt sich auf für Unterfenstern und nicht für Kategorien aus. Es hat andere Leute in der Vergangenheit verwirrt,

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-13 Thread Carl Schwan
Le mardi, avril 13, 2021 1:10 PM, Arjen Hiemstra a écrit : > On Monday, 12 April 2021 23:26:18 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > > > Le lundi, avril 12, 2021 10:20 PM, Nate Graham n...@kde.org a écrit : > > > > > [explicitly CCing Noah] > > > > And I still have the same worries as before. Building a univ

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-13 Thread Arjen Hiemstra
On Monday, 12 April 2021 23:26:18 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > Le lundi, avril 12, 2021 10:20 PM, Nate Graham a écrit : > > [explicitly CCing Noah] > > > > And I still have the same worries as before. Building a universal theming > system will takes **years** to make in a way that won't feel like a

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-13 Thread Marco Martin
On lunedì 12 aprile 2021 23:26:18 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > This already seems like a lot of rules and I probably forgot many more... > > A solution to reduce the number of rules to implement would be to allow > the engine to accept textures provided by svg files. But that brings I agree on that,

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-13 Thread Marco Martin
On lunedì 12 aprile 2021 22:44:46 CEST Noah Davis wrote: > Just chiming in: I agree that qqc2-breeze-style is a stopgap and not > an effective long term solution for our QQC2 theming. I agree that a > new unified theming system would be the ideal solution to arrive at, > but I knew it wasn't being

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-12 Thread Nate Graham
On 4/12/21 3:26 PM, Carl Schwan wrote: And I still have the same worries as before. Building a universal theming system will takes **years** to make in a way that won't feel like a big regression for our users. [...] Anyway, if someone wants to invest a lot of time in creating the unified the

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-12 Thread Carl Schwan
his, but is becoming > > more and more important > > Based on other random conversations since this email thread petered out, > it seems like we're going to end up considering qqc2-breeze-style to be > a successful yet temporary stopgap solution from PlaMo, and continue >

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-12 Thread Noah Davis
> Based on other random conversations since this email thread petered out, > it seems like we're going to end up considering qqc2-breeze-style to be > a successful yet temporary stopgap solution from PlaMo, and continue > using the qqc2-desktop-style theme bridge we currently have--fixin

Re: qqc2-breeze-style

2021-04-12 Thread Nate Graham
-desktop-style theme bridge we currently have--fixing bugs and improving performance as needed--until we re-do and unify our whole theming system. On that subject, have we done any further brainstorming? I remember being fairly impressed with Arjen's prototype as well. I love the idea

Re: Proposal: move Klipper | Plasma Applet bugs into Plasmashell product

2021-04-12 Thread Nate Graham
On 4/12/21 12:57 PM, Ben Cooksley wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, 6:04 am Nate Graham, Thanks for the explanation. Can I ask you to do your magic to silently move all bugs in the Klipper product to the Plasmashell | Clipboard component? Looks like it's about 100 bugs. We certainly ca

Re: Proposal: move Klipper | Plasma Applet bugs into Plasmashell product

2021-04-12 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, 6:04 am Nate Graham, wrote: > On 4/12/21 11:56 AM, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > There isn't an exact threshold. > > > > The issue is that email providers (such as Google, Outlook.com - > > Microsoft, Yahoo and GMX) keep track of email servers sending patterns. > > Should we deviat

Re: Proposal: move Klipper | Plasma Applet bugs into Plasmashell product

2021-04-12 Thread Nate Graham
On 4/12/21 11:56 AM, Ben Cooksley wrote: There isn't an exact threshold. The issue is that email providers (such as Google, Outlook.com - Microsoft, Yahoo and GMX) keep track of email servers sending patterns. Should we deviate from these patterns, then their systems will automatically impose

Re: Proposal: move Klipper | Plasma Applet bugs into Plasmashell product

2021-04-12 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 4:01 AM David Edmundson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:21 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > > > > > > > On 4/12/21 9:15 AM, David Edmundson wrote: > > > No objections. > > > > > > Be sure to CC sysadmins before doing bulk moves. > > > > Saying what? Also what qualifies as bul

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