Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Szymon Ptaszkiewicz
+1 for disabling that. czw., 10 lut 2022 o 07:23 Ed Merks napisał(a): > Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've > asked about this before and I really don't like it. This time I want to > really make it stop. I think such a behavior creates a really bad >

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Andrey Loskutov
> I would bring that for voting at the PMC. Thanks Alex. > I'm a bit disappointed that we don't see real effort in improving the > situation with bugs and gerrits though. Sure, ho one is happy with that, but that's the problem of resources we have since "big players" moved to other

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:55 PM Alexander Fedorov < alexander.fedo...@arsysop.ru> wrote: > +1 to stop auto close, because it negates a lot of human effort invested > in each bugzilla record. It is strange to expect any new contributors while > we just through their work to the trash bin. > I

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Alexander Fedorov
+1 to stop auto close, because it negates a lot of human effort invested in each bugzilla record. It is strange to expect any new contributors while we just through their work to the trash bin. I wonder what Committer Representative role stands for if the message could be claimed as "just not

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Mickael Istria
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM Ed Merks wrote: > And while you might not keep lists, auto closing issues reminds not just > you that attention is needed but it reminds the users that you don't keep a > list. And it might will tell the users that you don't really care about > backlogs of

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread jkubitz-eclipse
I dislike stupid robots judging human contributions which come from heart. I also dislike triage. As long as a bug is not planned with target Milestone and (voluntary) assignee it won’t be done anyways. But still it is a valid report that later might gain attention.

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Ed Merks
I do keep lists: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED=Modeling=releng=doc=website=Core=Doc=Edit=Mapping=Tools=Xcore=XML%2FXMI_id=21197880=resolution%2Cbug_id=EMF_format=advanced=---=FIXED

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Ed Merks
Please consider the opinions of your committers and contributors as at least relatively important.   We're explaining to you what is important to us and why we feel that way.  We don't really so much appreciate our opinions being dismissed as not important to you.   We have higher expectations

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Mickael Istria
FWIW, I personally like the "reminder" about old bugs I once cared about and then have forgotten about, and that often allows me to take a decision of whether I'm fine seeing them closed (sometimes marking them as resolved or not important any more), or whether I need to reopen them with more

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Andrey Loskutov
/aloskutov     Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2022 um 10:52 Uhr Von: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference     On Thu, Feb 10, 2

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread S A
> You nailed it! It's pointless discussion whether bugs are autoclosed or not aka stay open without anyone looking into it or being closed without anyone looking into it. > What's important is who will triage and fix bugs, look into gerrits and etc.? I'm very interested in the later discussion and

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:43 AM Rolf Theunissen wrote: > I fully agree. In fact, I consider any bug that is closed and marked as > 'stalebug' as open. > > Also, back in the day there seemed to be a different triage process, and > correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that bugs that are marked

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Rolf Theunissen
I fully agree. In fact, I consider any bug that is closed and marked as 'stalebug' as open. Also, back in the day there seemed to be a different triage process, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that bugs that are marked as being triaged are not auto-closed. At least some very old bugs

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Alex Blewitt
I agree. It’s happened to many bugs I raised over the years even when they are provably still valid, and it gives a really bad impression to end users for limited gain. Alex Sent from my iPhone  > On 10 Feb 2022, at 06:49, Christoph Läubrich wrote: > > +1 for disabling this. > >> Am

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Christoph Läubrich
+1 for disabling this. Am 10.02.22 um 07:45 schrieb Andrey Loskutov: Yes, please. I believe PMC once decided it would be a great idea to have less bugs open, so I would ask PMC to discuss the success of this practice once again, we should be able to reiterate on our processes. I've

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Andrey Loskutov
Yes, please. I believe PMC once decided it would be a great idea to have less bugs open, so I would ask PMC to discuss the success of this practice once again, we should be able to reiterate on our processes. I've complained https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jdt-dev/msg01419.html already (no

[platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Ed Merks
Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've asked about this before and I really don't like it.  This time I want to really make it stop.  I think such a behavior creates a really bad impression, i.e., that we manage bugs so poorly that we need a bot that times them