Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-10 Thread Marcin Bohosiewicz
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Jakub Bogusz wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:03:11PM +0200, Tomasz Mateja wrote: Elan Ruusamäe pisze: On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: and instead of living out your feelings, report bugs what is wrong with 2.6.22 kernel (in lists or http://bugs.pld

Re: AC installation was (Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?])

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 10 April 2008 00:28, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > :)Anyway can anyone look at this logs? --- Loading console font and map...[ BUSY ]locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale:

Re: AC installation was (Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?])

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 10 April 2008 00:28, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Who was making those floppies? Maybe there is some possibility to > upgrade there rpm and/or poldek to make it working. hawk did. and the biggest problem was that the data does not fit to disk. upgrading disks, would mean that disks should u

AC installation was (Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?])

2008-04-09 Thread Tomasz Mateja
Thank you guys for discussion. I don't agree with some points but such response means PLD is still alive :-) This makes me remember the gold PLD rule: SOD#1 :) Anyway can anyone look at this logs? Who was making those floppies? Maybe there is some possibility to upgrade there rpm and/or poldek t

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Golebiowski
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:03, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >>> and kernel update is needed to let ac live a little longer. as there's > >>> need to support newer hardware. it was considered dead already time it > >>> was rele

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Golebiowski
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Adam Golebiowski pisze: > > As above - it's all about new features, like new hardware, powertop, > > vmsplice exploit support... I do not need powertop on my server, but > > would like to play a bit with it on my laptop. And no, I do not want > > (

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:44, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:03, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >>> and kernel update is needed to let ac live a little longer. as there's > >>> need to support newer hardware. it was considered dead already time it > >>> wa

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:37, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Adam Golebiowski pisze: > > As above - it's all about new features, like new hardware, powertop, > > vmsplice exploit support... I do not need powertop on my server, but > > would like to play a bit with it on my laptop. And no, I do not want

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:18, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Jakub Bogusz pisze: > >> What are the super-hiper features with new release of kernel?? > >> Remeber - no xorg - no compiz - no fun - kernel upgrade wont help > >> Old glibc - new kernel - compatibility emulated - what new features? > > > > U

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Golebiowski
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Adam Golebiowski wrote: > Hardware support. It already happened once or twice to me, when I had to > use kernel newer than 2.6.16 as my NIC wasn't supported - later I discoverd > r8168.spec which would help me as well, but you see the point. which does not seem to work

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Golebiowski
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >>> and instead of living out your feelings, report bugs what is wrong with > >>> 2.6.22 kernel (in lists or http://bugs.pld-linux.org/). 2.6.16 is at > >>> least thr

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopierała
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:11:59PM +0200, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > > and easiest way to fix security issues is upgrade software, to catch up the > > patch from upstream. i haven't noticed active security team to patch and > > backport changes to old versions in pld. we don't have such developer pow

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:14, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Patryk Zawadzki pisze: > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Tomasz Mateja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > Try yourself in vmware or virtualbox > > >> > no i won't. if you want something fixed, share 'rpm -qa'

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopierała
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:03:11PM +0200, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Old glibc - new kernel - compatibility emulated - what new features? works on new hardware. I have at least two machines which doesn't work on 2.6.16. On 2.6.22 - works fine without big problems. (still are small problems like non w

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:03:11PM +0200, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >>> and instead of living out your feelings, report bugs what is wrong with > >>> 2.6.22 kernel (in lists or http://bugs.pld-linux.org/). 2.6.16 is at >

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:03, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > > and kernel update is needed to let ac live a little longer. as there's > > need to support newer hardware. it was considered dead already time it > > was released. and some major changes like updating glibc or gcc would > > mean changing th

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:56, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Elan Ruusamäe pisze: > >> Try yourself in vmware or virtualbox > > > > no i won't. if you want something fixed, share 'rpm -qa' (answer to > > question "what was installed afterall") > > Ok I'll prepare detailed report but I don't like your a

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 21:03:11 +0200, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > upgrade kernel for servers - more useless And problematic, e.g. xtables/nftables transition issues. -- Tomasz Pala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > > and if you definition of stable is old packages, why bother upgrading > > packages from ac-updates afterall? > > updates was intended to security, bugfix updates. whats the difference > between ac/ti/th when you can update everything?? Mayb

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Golebiowski
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > what did issue that warning? Wasn't there a typo within kbd (-utf8 instead of -iutf8)? -- http://www.agmk.net/ - hosting, strony www, opieka informatyczna ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lis

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >> 5. Not mentioning the fact that not everything in AC is signed and > >> default config demands signed packages > > > > don't enable such trees then. signed in ac are 'ac' and 'ac-updates' > > and 'ac-supported' trees only. > > Yes I mean o

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > > and instead of living out your feelings, report bugs what is wrong with > > 2.6.22 kernel (in lists or http://bugs.pld-linux.org/). 2.6.16 is at > > least three years old kernel. upstream is near 2.6.25 already. and th/ti > > do have 2.6.22

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >> 3. after reboot: > >> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory > >> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or > >> directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >> 2. Upgrade AC, it fails when upgrading rpm with the message of missing > >> lzma, when manully install the lzma package it installs but fails on > >> rebuilding rpm database. > > > > upgrade to ac from what? > > Upgrade AC to AC+updates wi

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 21:25, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > >> 1. During the instalation from bootdisk-net, basic instalation, the > >> SysVinit package wasn't installed - result nonbooting system, when > >> manually installed - it works > > > > recommended way of installing is chroot install, and the

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 20:33, Tomasz Mateja wrote: > Translated: > > I've tried to check what hurts AC: > 1. During the instalation from bootdisk-net, basic instalation, the > SysVinit package wasn't installed - result nonbooting system, when > manually installed - it works recommended way of i

[Fwd: Re: [Th] Upgrade apport - jak rozumieć ten błąd?]

2008-04-09 Thread Tomasz Mateja
Translated: I've tried to check what hurts AC: 1. During the instalation from bootdisk-net, basic instalation, the SysVinit package wasn't installed - result nonbooting system, when manually installed - it works 2. Upgrade AC, it fails when upgrading rpm with the message of missing lzma, when