Re: [PLUG] PLUG AT talk?

2009-10-19 Thread Russell Senior
> "Michael" == Michael Dexter writes: Michael> Russell Senior wrote: >> What's the story with the PLUG Advanced Topics talk? I had the >> impression that someone was going to pick this back up. I have >> some ideas for people to present, though maybe not such little >> notice as this wednes

Re: [PLUG] PLUG AT talk?

2009-10-19 Thread Michael Dexter
Russell Senior wrote: > What's the story with the PLUG Advanced Topics talk? I had the > impression that someone was going to pick this back up. I have some > ideas for people to present, though maybe not such little notice as > this wednesday. I have offered to take this up and have a venue to

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread drew wymore
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, drew wymore wrote: > > > This looks like a boogered route but I could be wrong. I've seen people > > use some funky weird gateways. > > > > 0.0.0.0 192.168.55.40.0.0.0 UG1 00 > eth0 > >

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, drew wymore wrote: > This looks like a boogered route but I could be wrong. I've seen people > use some funky weird gateways. > > 0.0.0.0 192.168.55.40.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 Drew, As far as my limited memory recalls, the name 'default' has

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread drew wymore
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Russell Senior wrote: > > > "localnet" "loopback" and "router1.appl-ec" are *not* numeric. The '-n' > > option will return numeric versions for those. That's what I'd like to > > see. > >My apologies, Russell. > > >F

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Russell Senior wrote: > "localnet" "loopback" and "router1.appl-ec" are *not* numeric. The '-n' > option will return numeric versions for those. That's what I'd like to > see. My apologies, Russell. >From server: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Russell Senior
> "Rich" == Rich Shepard writes: Russell> Try again with the '-n' (don't resolve names) option. Rich>The '-n' option makes no difference in the results of Rich> 'route.' Numeric in both cases on both hosts. >From the server (192.168.55.1): > > Kernel IP routing table > Destination

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Carlos Konstanski wrote: >>> Try again with the '-n' (don't resolve names) option. > That is indicative of a problem. It means you cannot do name > resolution. Carlos, The version of 'route' on Slackware-12.2 here seems to use the '-n' option the opposite way (as did ear

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Carlos Konstanski
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Rich Shepard wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Shepard > Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;civil and on-topic" > > To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic" > > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Unidirect

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Russell Senior wrote: > Try again with the '-n' (don't resolve names) option. Russell, The '-n' option makes no difference in the results of 'route.' Numeric in both cases on both hosts. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pd

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread drew wymore
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Joe Pruett wrote: > > > why do you think the laptop is 192.168.55.5 when it seems to think it is > > on 192.168.12.something? > >Because the former is what's in /etc/hosts on the server. > > I'll look at the wireles

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Joe Pruett wrote: > why do you think the laptop is 192.168.55.5 when it seems to think it is > on 192.168.12.something? Because the former is what's in /etc/hosts on the server. I'll look at the wireless router this evening using a direct connection to my notebook. Ri

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Russell Senior
> "Rich" == Rich Shepard writes: >> Run /sbin/route on the laptop and the desktop here when you get a >> chance and post them on the list. Rich>From the server (192.168.55.1): [...] Try again with the '-n' (don't resolve names) option. -- Russell Senior ``I have nine fingers;

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Joe Pruett
> From the server (192.168.55.1): > > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 > loopback* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, drew wymore wrote: > Run /sbin/route on the laptop and the desktop here when you get a chance and > post them on the list. Drew, From the server (192.168.55.1): Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface localnet

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread drew wymore
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Joe Pruett wrote: > >> my guess is that it is doing routing, and it sounds like it is using the > >> same ip range, which is really confusing. > > > > Why's this confusing? > > it isn't confusing if the device is bridging between the wireless and the > wired sid

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Joe Pruett
>> my guess is that it is doing routing, and it sounds like it is using the >> same ip range, which is really confusing. > > Why's this confusing? it isn't confusing if the device is bridging between the wireless and the wired side. but when you use the wan port, it does nat routing (unless t

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Joe Pruett wrote: > my guess is that it is doing routing, and it sounds like it is using the > same ip range, which is really confusing. Why's this confusing? > the best way to check is to find out which port on the wireless linksys > device is hooked to the netgear devic

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Joe Pruett
>> is this linksys the main router for everything? or is there another >> device that is your internet router? > > It is the connection between the one laptop and everything else, both > local and remote. There's a Netgear firewall appliance/router to which that > wireless router is connected.

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Joe Pruett wrote: > is this linksys the main router for everything? or is there another > device that is your internet router? Joe, It is the connection between the one laptop and everything else, both local and remote. There's a Netgear firewall appliance/router to whic

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Joe Pruett
>> is the wireless acting as a bridge or a router? > > I don't know. I tried accessing the unit via the web browser but could not > connect; I cannot ping it, either. Not sure what I did since the last time I > futzed with it. > >> is the laptop on a different subnet than the rest of your network

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, wes wrote: > I have seen security options in wireless router config pages along the > lines of "wireless isolation" - something about preventing wireless > clients from talking to other hosts on the network. wes, In this case, how could the wireless-connected laptop get m

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Fred James wrote: > (1) Can you attach the laptop in question to the LAN via an Eithernet cable > (disabling wireless)? Fred, The last time I had it connected via ethernet I did not try pinging it from another host. > (2) Are there any other host attached to the LAN via

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Joe Pruett wrote: > is the wireless acting as a bridge or a router? Joe, I don't know. I tried accessing the unit via the web browser but could not connect; I cannot ping it, either. Not sure what I did since the last time I futzed with it. > is the laptop on a different

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread wes
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > I'd greatly appreciate insights from you professional network admins > since > I'm out of ideas. > > One host on the network, the Toshiba laptop, communicates via a wireless > connection to both the LAN and, via the router/bridge the Inter

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Fred James
Rich Shepard wrote: >I'd greatly appreciate insights from you professional network admins since > I'm out of ideas. > >One host on the network, the Toshiba laptop, communicates via a wireless > connection to both the LAN and, via the router/bridge the Internet. From the > laptop I can ping

Re: [PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Joe Pruett
> I'd greatly appreciate insights from you professional network admins since > I'm out of ideas. > > One host on the network, the Toshiba laptop, communicates via a wireless > connection to both the LAN and, via the router/bridge the Internet. From the > laptop I can ping other LAN hosts as wel

[PLUG] Unidirectional Network Commection

2009-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard
I'd greatly appreciate insights from you professional network admins since I'm out of ideas. One host on the network, the Toshiba laptop, communicates via a wireless connection to both the LAN and, via the router/bridge the Internet. From the laptop I can ping other LAN hosts as well as exte

Re: [PLUG] ubuntu 8-10

2009-10-19 Thread Daniel Pape
linux-yug wrote: > Hi > > > > Something went wrong... > > Installed 8-10 and was going great... > > Used rsync to copy files from old computer to new computer.. > > Now 8-10 does not want to work.. > > Two examples. > > Firefox now will NOT start.. > > And I can't open a terminal... > > I