Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Jim Beckett wrote: > I just wanted to apologize to the OP for hijacking this thread... > > Have a good night all! No worries, but next time please just rename the thread and fork it off such as "MyTV config was => need a laptop" ___ PLUG mailing list PLU

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Beckett
I just wanted to apologize to the OP for hijacking this thread... Have a good night all! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Beckett
Josh Cady wrote: > Hey, Jim, just out of curiosity, would you mind telling me briefly > about the costs and configuration for your MythTV projection system? > > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Jim Beckett wrote: > > >> Rich Shepard wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, drew wymore wrote: >>>

[PLUG] Take a look at the Chinese Ubuntu distro with XP like UI ?

2010-01-22 Thread William A Morita
Have you taken a look at the Chinese Ubuntu distro with XP like UI ? I played with in in VirtualBox and it looks pretty good ! It is discussed here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/26/chinese-copy-cat-pirates-launch-ubun tu-that-looks-just-like-windows-xp/ You can download from here: http:/

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Josh Cady
Hey, Jim, just out of curiosity, would you mind telling me briefly about the costs and configuration for your MythTV projection system? On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Jim Beckett wrote: > Rich Shepard wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, drew wymore wrote: >> >> >>> I have actually had good luck in the

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Beckett
Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, drew wymore wrote: > > >> I have actually had good luck in the past with Acer gear. >> > >I'm currently using an Acer monitor that works just fine. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxl

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:24:12PM -0800, Mike Connors wrote: > Russell Senior wrote: > > I'll just mention my recent Just-Works anecdote regarding printing. > > ... No muss, no fuss. I was kind of impressed. > I'll be honest, I would never have expected it to just work that > painlessly. I wa

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:24:12 -0800 Mike Connors dijo: >I'll be honest, I would never have expected it to just work that >painlessly. I was just researching if I could connect my Nokia phone >to my Linux box to get photos/files off of it. Of course there's no >Nokia suite for Linux. But a few peo

Re: [PLUG] todays supreme court decision.

2010-01-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
FYI to non-subscribers: Followup posted to Plug-Talk -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Trading kilograms for kilometers since 2003 Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity http://www.jamhome.us/ The Fortune Cookie Fortune today is: There is an old time toast which is

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, drew wymore wrote: > I have actually had good luck in the past with Acer gear. I'm currently using an Acer monitor that works just fine. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listin

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Dwight Hubbard
I'm saying get the Linux in solving their problems, then point the differences between them once they've used it for a while. Instead of coming in and trying to get them to change to Linux. Get Linux in running the core of their infrastructure, then educate them. Once they rely on Linux, it's

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread drew wymore
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: > > On Fri, January 22, 2010 11:23 am, frank hunt wrote: >> i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when >> i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. >> >> anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Tim Wescott
On Fri, January 22, 2010 11:23 am, frank hunt wrote: > i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when > i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. > > anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - > lots memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Dwight Hubbard wrote: > So what kind of firewalls are those M$ companies putting in? Most of the > time it's a Linux system pre-configured to act as a firewall. The same is > true for wifi routers, vpn servers, virtualization servers, vpn gateways, > heck evensome of the printers are actually

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Keith
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, frank hunt wrote: > i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when > i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. > > anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - > lots memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless, 500gb +/- hd

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Dan Young
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > I said you have to be willing to be in a legal gray area > when it comes to playing DVDs You don't: http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-dvd-player/ -- Dan Young ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Dwight Hubbard
So what kind of firewalls are those M$ companies putting in? Most of the time it's a Linux system pre-configured to act as a firewall. The same is true for wifi routers, vpn servers, virtualization servers, vpn gateways, heck even some of the printers are actually Linux servers. I've been in

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread drew wymore
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > I just picked up a Dell Vostro 1520, and I like it a lot. I had to install > Debian from disks as the network install did not work. But other than that, > and some sound issues with skype, it works well. Look for it in the Dell > Small Busine

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Phillips
I just picked up a Dell Vostro 1520, and I like it a lot. I had to install Debian from disks as the network install did not work. But other than that, and some sound issues with skype, it works well. Look for it in the Dell Small Business site. Mark On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:23 PM, frank hunt w

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Dwight Hubbard wrote: > Ultimately most places tend to care less about what OS they run than about > getting their task done with the least hassle. > I have to disagree with this. For one, if this was true I think we'd see a greater mix of M$ and non-M$ prods at companies. Instead there's the

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Tim Wescott
On Fri, January 22, 2010 10:57 am, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, David Kaplan wrote: > >> How to get the word out about Linux is a good question. > >Those interested in advocacy should consider forming a SIG. There are > probably community events where a table could be set up with

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Moore wrote: > That's kinda what I see as the rub: what's the use of getting the > word out if they people you're getting the word out to are satisfied > enough with what they have? As a total rank amateur Linux user -- not > a programmer, not a software professional, almost no idea what

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Moore wrote: > That's kinda what I see as the rub: what's the use of getting the > word out if they people you're getting the word out to are satisfied > enough with what they have? As a total rank amateur Linux user -- not > a programmer, not a software professional, almost no idea what

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Dale F. Victor
Hello! I have been dealing with Pacific Solutions for years and have never had anything but a positive experience. I highly recommend them. I have to drive from the coast to get there. Dale F. Victor Astoria I used to live in Portland and joined back then. On Friday 22 January 2010 12:39:04 p

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Dwight Hubbard
Keep an eye on the office stores like staples, every month or so they clearance out some of their older laptops for 30-50% off their original price. I picked up my current laptop that way for $329, it retailed the week before for $725. On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, frank hunt wrote: > anyways - need a

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Dwight Hubbard
I find it works better to talk about how to solve the end user's problems with open source than advocate for Linux. Ultimately most places tend to care less what OS they run than about getting their task done with the least hassle. I think we'd be more effective if we focus on helping them use

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Michael Moore
On 1/22/10, Mike Connors wrote: > Question: If you just use a computer for email, web, etc but don't know > much about them or anything about Linux how would you know about why you > should give Linux a try or where you could go to get free help/support > from some good, friendly, Linux loving fol

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread wes
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Mike Connors wrote: > Russell Senior wrote: > > I'll just mention my recent Just-Works anecdote regarding printing. I > > have set up an Ubuntu install for my computer-averse 70 yo mother. > > Mostly it's been sitting unused. She lives across town. She needs a

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Russell Senior wrote: > I'll just mention my recent Just-Works anecdote regarding printing. I > have set up an Ubuntu install for my computer-averse 70 yo mother. > Mostly it's been sitting unused. She lives across town. She needs a > document printed. I haven't set up printing on the thing. P

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Russell Senior
> "jen" == jen montserrat writes: jen> The show stopper for me every time I try and get friends and jen> family on Linux are the all in one printer-scanner-copier-free jen> shoulder massage officejets that they all have. I know I can get jen> these things working in Linux but trying to expla

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread frank hunt
please excuse the lower case - i am temporarily without the use of my right hand :( thanks to all who responded . . . some clarifications: lots of memory means 2gb for a 32 bit os - 4gb for 64 bit don't particularly "need" blu-ray but many of today's drives include it not doing cfd or other bi

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mike Connors wrote: > > >> Although you certainly could support the corporate big box chain stores, >> but why not check out your *local* computer shop. >> > >Price. > > >> Pacific Solutions has 2 Lenovo latops for <$700 >> > >I won

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread m0gely
frank hunt wrote: > i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when > i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. > > anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - > lots memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless, 500gb +/- hdd, etc. looking for >

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread jen montserrat
The show stopper for me every time I try and get friends and family on Linux are the all in one printer-scanner-copier-free shoulder massage officejets that they all have. I know I can get these things working in Linux but trying to explain how to do all this with Linux to someone who's computer e

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mike Connors wrote: > Although you certainly could support the corporate big box chain stores, > but why not check out your *local* computer shop. Price. > Pacific Solutions has 2 Lenovo latops for <$700 I won't spend my money there. Two bad experiences were enough fo

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Rich Shepard wrote: > It has a Celeron 900 CPU (the -...76 model has an AMD processor), 2G RAM, > 250M hard drive, wireless, cd/dvd drive, a 15.6" wide screen and a low > price. We paid $329 at Best Buy; it was on sale that day (or week) and might > be again. > Although you certainly could sup

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, frank hunt wrote: > anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - lots > memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless, 500gb +/- hdd, etc. looking for > recommendations. i'll probably put ubuntu on it unless there is a better > option. also don't want to break th

Re: [PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
frank hunt wrote: > i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when > i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. > > anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - > lots memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless, 500gb +/- hdd, etc. looking for

[PLUG] need a laptop

2010-01-22 Thread frank hunt
i know this question periodically shows up - but usually it is not when i am looking for a laptop so i don't pay much attention. anyways - need a general purpose laptop with the usual stuff on it - lots memory, cd/dvd/blu-ray, wireless, 500gb +/- hdd, etc. looking for recommendations. i'll pr

Re: [PLUG] todays supreme court decision.

2010-01-22 Thread MJang
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 20:29 -0800, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 07:21:52PM -0800, Dale F. Victor wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I am wondering if anyone is thinking about the repercussions about the > > Supreme > > Court Decision today. I am wondering if it would be a good thing

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mike Connors wrote: > A SIG? Special Interest Group Yup. There's the Linux K12 Educational SIG so why not an Advocacy SIG? Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, David Kaplan wrote: > > >> How to get the word out about Linux is a good question. >> > >Those interested in advocacy should consider forming a SIG. There are > probably community events where a table could be set up with working > desktop/lapt

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
David Kaplan wrote: > How to get the word out about Linux is a good question. I have done it on my > own. In the past year I have installed Linux Mint on around 20 computers for > people who knew very little about computers at all. They have all be very > happy using Mint. I use other distros, b

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, David Kaplan wrote: > How to get the word out about Linux is a good question. Those interested in advocacy should consider forming a SIG. There are probably community events where a table could be set up with working desktop/laptop/netbook displays that can be used to demo

Re: [PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread David Kaplan
How to get the word out about Linux is a good question. I have done it on my own. In the past year I have installed Linux Mint on around 20 computers for people who knew very little about computers at all. They have all be very happy using Mint. I use other distros, but I've found that Mint has bee

[PLUG] Software in the Public Interest

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
As per usual, I'm probably the last one to know about this organization. But one thing I want to more of this year is to get involved more w. orgs like SPI [http://www.spi-inc.org/]. Who are supporting the doing of good work... SPI is a non-profit organization which was founded to help organiza

[PLUG] LInux Clinic and you avg P-town computer user?

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Connors
Question: If you just use a computer for email, web, etc but don't know much about them or anything about Linux how would you know about why you should give Linux a try or where you could go to get free help/support from some good, friendly, Linux loving folks? Backstory: I was helping a friend