Re: [PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s...

2010-02-12 Thread m0gely
Michael Robinson wrote: > I realize that going from a P4 to a dual or quad core processor would > be the ideal solution, but that is also an expensive solution. I have > a 1.80 Ghz or 2.40 Ghz processor right now. so 3.06 Ghz seems like it > would be a decent improvement. If anyone can show me h

Re: [PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s...

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Robinson
> First, a RAM upgrade from 512MB to 1GB or more would more than likely be of > more benefit than a slight CPU upgrade within the same CPU class (as in > staying with P4 instead of upgrading to newer generation). > > Second, you don't mention what kind of video hardware you have, a beefier > GPU m

Re: [PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s...

2010-02-12 Thread Matt McKenzie
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > Has anyone on here successfully streamed from a Silicondust HDhomerun > network based tuner to a Pentium 4 system? I'm wondering if upgrading > from a 512 meg 2.4 Ghz P4 to a 512 meg 3.06 Ghz P4 will make a big > difference or if I'm go

Re: [PLUG] Bash Class offered at Free Geek

2010-02-12 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM, wes wrote: > The wiki page says the first class is Feb 17. Is that a type, or is there an > intro session before the first day of class? That is in 2009. wiki is from the last class. -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@li

[PLUG] How about this video card...

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Robinson
ATI Radeon HD 3450 512MB DDR2 AGP 8X/4X DVI+HDTV+VGA Video Graphics Card for HDTV playback on my Pentium IV system? Does this card have the MPEG processing capability that I need? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/

Re: [PLUG] let's get momentum for Portland...

2010-02-12 Thread Russell Senior
> "Tim" == Tim writes: Tim> I've done this as well as contacted my ISP (Spiretech) and urged Tim> them to submit something as well, since I figured it would carry Tim> more weight. If you're using a small mom&pop ISP here as I am, Tim> you might want to do the same, since these would be the

Re: [PLUG] let's get momentum for Portland...

2010-02-12 Thread Joe Pruett
> I've done this as well as contacted my ISP (Spiretech) and urged them > to submit something as well, since I figured it would carry more > weight. If you're using a small mom&pop ISP here as I am, you might > want to do the same, since these would be the direct customers of the > Google pilot. >

Re: [PLUG] Bash Class offered at Free Geek

2010-02-12 Thread wes
The wiki page says the first class is Feb 17. Is that a type, or is there an intro session before the first day of class? -wes On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Paul wrote: > Bash Class is back at Free Geek! > > The class: > A six-week course on Saturdays covering basic and intermediate scripti

Re: [PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s... (MPEG2 Testing)

2010-02-12 Thread Jim Beckett
For Michael Robinson, (and anyone else who might find this useful,) If you want to test the ability of your computer to playback recorded HD video (in MPEG2 format), before investing in the hardware, try this: 1. Download and install VLC: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ (This player has the codecs

Re: [PLUG] let's get momentum for Portland...

2010-02-12 Thread Tim
Hi Russell, > A followup for those who want fiber in Portland: > > The Personal Telco Project wants open-access fiber-to-the-premises > last-mile infrastructure in Portland. It would be awesome if Google > helped us get that, but even if they don't, really people, this is > something we could be

Re: [PLUG] let's get momentum for Portland...

2010-02-12 Thread Russell Senior
> "Russell" == Russell Senior writes: Russell> This is something that Personal Telco has been working Russell> on/advocating for a while. I put in a nomination and pointed Russell> them at the City people who would be responsible. And Russell> frankly, even without a magical benefactor like

[PLUG] Bash Class offered at Free Geek

2010-02-12 Thread Paul
Bash Class is back at Free Geek! The class: A six-week course on Saturdays covering basic and intermediate scripting in bash! We will examine a file with about 15 lines of code together each class, modify the code, run it, and come up with our own scripts. We will also get to know the "Advanced

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: February PLUG AT Meeting

2010-02-12 Thread Tony Rick
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Joe Pruett wrote: > for the clueless (and people off the list that i forwarded this to :-), > which day is this happening? AT meetings are usually the third Wednesday of the month. That would be Wed Feb 17 this time around. (hmmm... Ash Wednesday...) - tony _

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:52:37AM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > The only question is, how did top get started by root in the first > place? The following is not likely, but worth doing every so often. Don't panic, but ... Perhaps you should try checking for a rootkit. There might be a root

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Joe Pruett wrote: > kill -1 xxx turning into kill 1 xxx used to be a very bad thing > (shutdown). i haven't done that in a long time, so i'm not sure if modern > init's respond the same way or not. Test and report results? :-) I usually start with killall , proceed to

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Joe Pruett
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: be warned, killall on some unices (ok, i know that aix 3, but i have vague recollections about older solarises) does not do the same thing and will in fact kill all processes running under the userid that runs killall.  doing a 'sudo k

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:01, Rogan Creswick wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: >> >> be warned, killall on some unices (ok, i know that aix 3, but i have >> vague recollections about older solarises) does not do the same thing >> and will in fact kill all proce

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > > be warned, killall on some unices (ok, i know that aix 3, but i have > vague recollections about older solarises) does not do the same thing > and will in fact kill all processes running under the userid that runs > killall.  doing a

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:50:47 -0800 wes dijo: >> >> Evidently mpstat, iostat, and sar are not installed and not in the >> Fedora 11 repos. I didn't look around to see if I could find an RPM >> for them somewhere. >> >> >These are commonly found in the "sysstat" package. Ah, that did it. But the

Re: [PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s...

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Burt
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:11:44AM -0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > Has anyone on here successfully streamed from a Silicondust HDhomerun > network based tuner to a Pentium 4 system? Presumably so. Google and the MythTV wiki seem to think so, at least. > I'm wondering if upgrading from a 512 meg

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Dale Snell
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:42:30, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:28:20 -0700 (MST) > Carlos Konstanski dijo: > > >On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> Something is eating 100% of one of my CPUs on my Fedora 11 x86_64 > >> Thinkpad. Occasionally it drops down, a

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:09, Rogan Creswick wrote: > or, if you want to skipp the grepping, just kill all instances of top: > > $ killall 21082 oops, i thnk you meant 'killall top' and if it doesn't die gracefully, killall works with flags too: killall -9 top be warned, killall on some unic

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: February PLUG AT Meeting

2010-02-12 Thread Joe Pruett
for the clueless (and people off the list that i forwarded this to :-), which day is this happening? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > [...@devil8 ~]$ ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10 > %CPU   PID USER     COMMAND > 99.0 25327 root     top > > > So I killed top, then re-ran the command. It still listed top as 99%. > WTH? > There may well be another

Re: [PLUG] Fwd: [PLUG-JOBS] Auto-response for your message to the "plug" mailing list

2010-02-12 Thread wes
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 20:43, Benjamin Foote wrote: > > Hi Rich, > > > > I didn't send an original message to PLUG-JOBS. I did receive a notice > > which was sent to plugj...@bnf.net which was an address which I > generated > > speci

Re: [PLUG] Top is lying

2010-02-12 Thread wes
> > Evidently mpstat, iostat, and sar are not installed and not in the > Fedora 11 repos. I didn't look around to see if I could find an RPM for > them somewhere. > > These are commonly found in the "sysstat" package. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@list

[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: February PLUG AT Meeting

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Dexter
For next week's PLUG Advanced Topics: Scott Garman on OpenEmbedded Roots Organic Brewing 1520 SE 7th, 7PM - 9PM/last customer Getting started in embedded Linux development can be intimidating. Every hardware device vendor seems to have its own embedded Linux distribution and way of developing fo

[PLUG] HDhomerun and P4s...

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Robinson
Has anyone on here successfully streamed from a Silicondust HDhomerun network based tuner to a Pentium 4 system? I'm wondering if upgrading from a 512 meg 2.4 Ghz P4 to a 512 meg 3.06 Ghz P4 will make a big difference or if I'm going to need a multi core machine? I got the network tuner thinking