Re: [PLUG] To complain is to volunteer (Was: AK-47?)

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
On 8/8/14 6:02 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > Does the same apply to praise/complements? Largely, yes. Everyone will at some time be coordinating or giving a great talk, first a PLUG, then at OSCON/LISA/LinuxWorld/etc. Resistance is futile. Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer __

Re: [PLUG] To complain is to volunteer (Was: AK-47?)

2014-08-08 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Dexter wrote: > > I will say this once and only once: To complain about free of charge > conference-quality events that have included several $1,000 worth of > free books, promotional items and event passes to date plus the > least-obtainable speaker in the

Re: [PLUG] Sound quality driving me to the dark side

2014-08-08 Thread Dick Steffens
On 08/08/2014 05:21 PM, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > I've used virtualbox successfully with win7. installation was simple. I > have done this awhile ago on ubuntu, currently on OSX - both worked without > complication. That's what I expected. Thanks. -- Regards, Dick Steffens __

Re: [PLUG] Sound quality driving me to the dark side

2014-08-08 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
I've used virtualbox successfully with win7. installation was simple. I have done this awhile ago on ubuntu, currently on OSX - both worked without complication. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > Readers with unfortunately good memories will recall that I use an old > pro

[PLUG] Sound quality driving me to the dark side

2014-08-08 Thread Dick Steffens
Readers with unfortunately good memories will recall that I use an old program called Transcribe along with a separate old program called Footpedal to play back audio recordings for the purpose of transcribing them. Some of you may also recall that I've been fooling around, from time to time, w

Re: [PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-08 Thread elcaseti .
Also on the subject of Gnu/Linux and Amateur radio, "Linux in the Ham Shack" is a podcast, & they also have an irc channel. http://lhspodcast.info/ Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 01:42:05PM -0700, Tyrell Jentink wrote: > > Whil

[PLUG] Ham radio was AK**

2014-08-08 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 01:42:05PM -0700, Tyrell Jentink wrote: > While looking at topics that are a fusion between Linux and other > hobbies... I'm a pretty big fan of ham radio, and there are plenty of > projects in ham radio that use Linux; AX.25 Soundmodem Drivers for both > packet and APRS, Br

[PLUG] Filtering - was AK..

2014-08-08 Thread Keith Lofstrom
I was interested in last night's topic - and also on deadline to finish a business plan, so regretfully did not attend. Intelligent people can have many different inputs, and viewpoints, outside of a shared interest in Linux. Some of you are aware of my political viewpoints, some of you who ar

Re: [PLUG] Migrate Ubuntu Server / install to /home. /var, /opt, etc install?

2014-08-08 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, MIke C. (Tech. Coord.) wrote: > Another idea, since there's no hot spare hard drives is to install a new > hard drive partitioned they way I want it and move everything over to it. > Repartition the old hard drive, clone/mirror the new drive to the old > drive and keep it as a

Re: [PLUG] Migrate Ubuntu Server / install to /home. /var, /opt, etc install?

2014-08-08 Thread MIke C. (Tech. Coord.)
Thanks all for the ideas and input! I think creating a test environment and ironing out all the details is very important and smart thing to do. Another idea, since there's no hot spare hard drives is to install a new hard drive partitioned they way I want it and move everything over to it. Repart

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread aaron
On 2014-08-08 12:24, Patrick J. Timlick wrote: > The more there is about AK47s on this list, the more likely that I > will no > longer participate. And that's why we have the PLUG-Talk list, which is a delightful place to take such discussions. Thanks for speaking up, Aaron _

[PLUG] To complain is to volunteer (Was: AK-47?)

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
I will say this once and only once: To complain about free of charge conference-quality events that have included several $1,000 worth of free books, promotional items and event passes to date plus the least-obtainable speaker in the open source community, Linus Torvalds, is to commit to coord

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
On 8/8/14 1:47 PM, Smith, Cathy wrote: > Do you have the link? Please address all gun topics off-list with the original author of the related post. They do not belong on this list. Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Smith, Cathy
Do you have the link? > There was a recent news article that someone did this; all but the barrel, of course. Cathy --- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone:  509.375.2687 Fax:    509.375.2

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Tyrell Jentink
I have re-read the original announcement of last nights' meeting, and even at the announcement stage, it seemed better matched for the Maker community than the Linux community. For example, if this topic had been "Let's look at how to write a Python script to automate some Arduino powered CNCs to

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, benjamin barber wrote: > Great, I propose that we borrow a few 3d printers, and start giving > demonstrations regarding how to 3d-print guns. There was a recent news article that someone did this; all but the barrel, of course. Rich __

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
Everything new we say is an experiment that may backfire, unless of course we say nothing new or nothing at all. I prefer people to continue to say new things and recognize, as you have, when they are not yet appropriate because only by doing that will you have an opportunity to recalibrate fo

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Ronald Bynoe
Alright, So I'd like to apologize to Michael, Patrick, and anyone else offended by my off-hand comment. My intention wasn't to troll, but to offer a cheeky rebuttal. Clearly the intent was lost on the wire. I hadn't anticipated just how touchy the topic was with some. Clearly this is not Linux rel

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Fred James
Ignore trolls ... their attention span is abnormally short. Michael Dexter wrote: > On 8/8/14 12:24 PM, Patrick J. Timlick wrote: >> The more there is about AK47s on this list, the more likely that I will no >> longer participate. > Agreed completely. The paintball drone etc. topics that have spun

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
On 8/8/14 12:24 PM, Patrick J. Timlick wrote: > The more there is about AK47s on this list, the more likely that I will no > longer participate. Agreed completely. The paintball drone etc. topics that have spun off of this do not belong here. Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer ___

Re: [PLUG] TONIGHT: August PLUG Meeting: An Open Hardware Case Study: The AK-47

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
On 8/8/14 12:05 PM, Maher, Jeff wrote: > The audio of the original presentation is available here: > http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/747 > The slides are available here: >http://bit.ly/OnUKTR On this note, I heard a few camera clicks during the presentation. Please be respectfu

Re: [PLUG] Migrate Ubuntu Server / install to /home. /var, /opt, etc install?

2014-08-08 Thread Robert Citek
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Bill Barry wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Robert Citek wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Bill Barry wrote: >>> Boot to a live disk. >>> Use resize2fs to shrink the current partition, >> >> resize2fs will only shrink the filesystem, not the parti

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Patrick J. Timlick
The more there is about AK47s on this list, the more likely that I will no longer participate. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Awesome! Where do I sign up for that one? I can imagine an epic paintball > fight to end all paintball fights! > > Or are you implying that just

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Ronald Bynoe
Awesome! Where do I sign up for that one? I can imagine an epic paintball fight to end all paintball fights! Or are you implying that just because a technology or concept can be abused, that it shouldn't be explored? Because the developers of TrueCrypt, Bitcoin, and all modern chemistry may have a

Re: [PLUG] TONIGHT: August PLUG Meeting: An Open Hardware Case Study: The AK-47

2014-08-08 Thread Maher, Jeff
Great talk last night. Thanks Pidge (and Michael for inviting her). FYI - for those interested, The audio of the original presentation is available here: http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/747 The slides are available here: http://bit.ly/OnUKTR Regards, Jeff Maher, GCIH Systems Ad

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread benjamin barber
Great, I propose that we borrow a few 3d printers, and start giving demonstrations regarding how to 3d-print guns. which we can then 3d print onto quadrocopters, which are running on raspberry pi's for targeting and acquisition of `targets`. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM, elcaseti . wrote: >

Re: [PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread elcaseti .
Open hardware is important to running libre software. In general, hardware is getting less open, as the masses buy less desktops & laptops, & more small, touchscreen devices. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Bill Kielhorn wrote: > In my opinion last night's talk about constructing AK-47s was o

[PLUG] AK-47?

2014-08-08 Thread Bill Kielhorn
In my opinion last night's talk about constructing AK-47s was outside the bounds of acceptable PLUG topics. To my way of thinking, PLUG members gather for the purpose of hearing and discussing things related to LINUX, UNIX, computers, computing, and open source (which by the way is distinct fo

Re: [PLUG] Migrate Ubuntu Server / install to /home. /var, /opt, etc install?

2014-08-08 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Robert Citek wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Bill Barry wrote: >> Boot to a live disk. >> Use resize2fs to shrink the current partition, > > resize2fs will only shrink the filesystem, not the partition. You'll > still have to use fdisk or gparted for maki

Re: [PLUG] Migrate Ubuntu Server / install to /home. /var, /opt, etc install?

2014-08-08 Thread Robert Citek
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Bill Barry wrote: > Boot to a live disk. > Use resize2fs to shrink the current partition, resize2fs will only shrink the filesystem, not the partition. You'll still have to use fdisk or gparted for making the partition a bit larger than the filesystem. > create t

[PLUG] Open Hardware Case Study feedback and a question to everyone

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Dexter
Hello all, Thank you Beth for the great talk and to everyone gave us a very solid turn-out. My observation for all of us: we cannot let software patents, SOPA, DMCA or any other body of controversial law to become as surprising, if not inconsistent and thus terrifying as that coming out of th