m0gely wrote:
> Mike Connors wrote:
>
>
>> "open" to any degree. If I was to break
>> into bldg w. set of lock picks, I'm not gonna say, "well, the door was
>> /open enough/ for me to get in." As it was
>> clearly closed and the intention was to keep people out, but I was
>> skilled enough to fi
Mike Connors wrote:
> "open" to any degree. If I was to break
> into bldg w. set of lock picks, I'm not gonna say, "well, the door was
> /open enough/ for me to get in." As it was
> clearly closed and the intention was to keep people out, but I was
> skilled enough to find a way in.
Reverse engin
Erik Lane wrote:
>> It's either open per the consensus of what the definition of open is or
>> it's not.
>>
>> You're certainly welcome to your /open enough/ opinion. Per Keith's scale
>> of
>> "openness", your definition is in the 3 -5 range. Where I think the general
>> consensus
>> of 'open" hw
>
> It's either open per the consensus of what the definition of open is or
> it's not.
>
> You're certainly welcome to your /open enough/ opinion. Per Keith's scale
> of
> "openness", your definition is in the 3 -5 range. Where I think the general
> consensus
> of 'open" hw is in the 8 - 10 range
m0gely wrote:
> Mike Connors wrote:
>
>
>> This is the same mis-perception that I had about open hardware.
>> Which is that if open source sw runs on it than it must be open.
>> This is a much different definition that Keith L. and Steve D. have put
>> forth.
>>
>
> There is no misperceptio
Mike Connors wrote:
> This is the same mis-perception that I had about open hardware.
> Which is that if open source sw runs on it than it must be open.
> This is a much different definition that Keith L. and Steve D. have put
> forth.
There is no misperception. I never said it was open. The poin
m0gely wrote:
> I'm not a developer. So this has no immediate adverse effect on me.
> Having said that, my well endowed Latitude seems to work 100% with
> Ubuntu 9.x. The integrated webcam, the illuminated keyboard and ambient
> light sensor, the bluetooth, wired and wireless, all expansion port
Steve D... wrote:
> Wikipedia states in:
>
> Open-source hardware
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_hardware
>
> "The term usually means that information about the hardware is open to
> all. This would include the hardware design (i.e.schematics, bill of
> materials and PCB layout data), as well
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:44 PM, m0gely wrote:
> Steve D... wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:52 AM, m0gely wrote:
>>> Steve D... wrote:
Intel creates Customer Reference Boards (CRB) that they license to
their customers, Dell, HP, ASUS, whatever. The CRB includes chip
infor
Steve D... wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:52 AM, m0gely wrote:
>> Steve D... wrote:
>>> Intel creates Customer Reference Boards (CRB) that they license to
>>> their customers, Dell, HP, ASUS, whatever. The CRB includes chip
>>> information, CAD board design, BIOS, and other software need
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Connors wrote:
> Steve D... wrote:
>> The loose motherboards aren't Open Hardware either. Those designs
>> are as encumbered with copyright and licensing as the box PC vendors.
>> Open Hardware means *open*. The designs are suppose to be GPL'ed or
>> some
Steve D... wrote:
> The loose motherboards aren't Open Hardware either. Those designs
> are as encumbered with copyright and licensing as the box PC vendors.
> Open Hardware means *open*. The designs are suppose to be GPL'ed or
> some other open license
Does such a mainboard exist? I can't even
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:52 AM, m0gely wrote:
> Steve D... wrote:
>> Intel creates Customer Reference Boards (CRB) that they license to
>> their customers, Dell, HP, ASUS, whatever. The CRB includes chip
>> information, CAD board design, BIOS, and other software needed to be
>> "Designed for
Steve D... wrote:
>Intel creates Customer Reference Boards (CRB) that they license to
> their customers, Dell, HP, ASUS, whatever. The CRB includes chip
> information, CAD board design, BIOS, and other software needed to be
> "Designed for Windows".
from the Intel site:
"When you see the "D
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mike Connors wrote:
> I prefer to build my own desktop computer. I'm not a fan of Dell,
> because I just
> see them as company who used commodity hw, created a brand (the Dell dude),
> and offered a support contract, etc. Maybe they've changed, BTTBOMK they
> don
# from Mike Connors
# on Monday 25 January 2010 23:30:
>Atom N330 1,6GHz Dual-Core Processor
>3GB RAM
>Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
That will be hard pressed to perform like an average workstation from a
decade ago. The Atom churns out performance equal to about half of its
clock in pe
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:54 AM, m0gely wrote:
> Steve D... wrote:
>
>> Do you want to buy from Dell,
>> HP, Apple, ect. and get 0% Open Source and no chance of Open Source in
>> the future,
>
> Explain this please.
Intel creates Customer Reference Boards (CRB) that they license to
their custom
Steve D... wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mike Connors wrote:
>
>> David Kaplan wrote:
>>
>>> Before you buy one, read this:
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69182.html
>>>
>>>
>> Ha, just another marketing dog & pony show! They really aren't
>> doing much for
Steve D... wrote:
> Do you want to buy from Dell,
> HP, Apple, ect. and get 0% Open Source and no chance of Open Source in
> the future,
Explain this please.
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Mike Connors wrote:
> "The first PC built by the community for the community."
>
> It's kind of neat to that they took a customer survey and mostly
> built it out according to the results. It ships w. OpenSuse, which I'm
> not all that crazy about...
>
Speaking of openSuSE... Is it really open?
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mike Connors wrote:
> David Kaplan wrote:
>> Before you buy one, read this:
>>
>> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69182.html
>>
> Ha, just another marketing dog & pony show! They really aren't
> doing much for Linux/FOSS community or for the *Open* hw consumer.
David Kaplan wrote:
> Before you buy one, read this:
>
> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69182.html
>
Ha, just another marketing dog & pony show! They really aren't
doing much for Linux/FOSS community or for the *Open* hw consumer.
It almost makes you wonder if it's funded by M$?
_
Before you buy one, read this:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69182.html
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Mike Connors wrote:
> "The first PC built by the community for the community."
>
> It's kind of neat to that they took a customer survey and mostly
> built it out according to the r
Before you buy one, read this:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/69182.html
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Mike Connors wrote:
> "The first PC built by the community for the community."
>
> It's kind of neat to that they took a customer survey and mostly
> built it out according to the re
"The first PC built by the community for the community."
It's kind of neat to that they took a customer survey and mostly
built it out according to the results. It ships w. OpenSuse, which I'm
not all that crazy about...
http://open-pc.com/
Feats & Specs:
consumer ready, perfectly preconfigure
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