Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-03-02 Thread Galen Seitz
It's a bit late for a reply on this, but I wanted to point out that one of the original purposes of a display manager was to allow the user to select a host to manage the display. Think X terminal. Someone using an X terminal typically needs to be able to choose a host on which to run X clien

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-28 Thread Michael M. Moore
Quentin Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael M. Moore > wrote: >> removing what's already here as it is, should I reinstall this? And the >> reason for that is, as I intimated, primarily as learning experience. > > I had missed that nuance. Based on your expanded explanation

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael M. Moore wrote: > make them less work.  Also, I have been having some hardware issues, > which got dramatically better when I got rid of GNOME.  I'd like to get > to the bottom of the problem (which may very well be, I need a new > something-or-another, pro

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael M. Moore wrote: > removing what's already here as it is, should I reinstall this?  And the > reason for that is, as I intimated, primarily as learning experience. I had missed that nuance. Based on your expanded explanation, I think this would be a great,

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael M. Moore wrote: > That's exactly why I was asking the question -- I couldn't find anything > that said "You need a display manager because..." it provides this-or-that > function I already know I need, or it interacts with something I already > know I need in a certain

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Michael M. Moore
Rich Shepard wrote: > >Then you can decide if you want a GUI desktop/window manager or you can do > everything by logging in on multiple terminals. Regardless of what you > decide, you do not need to log in via a GUI (KDM, GDM, XDM). You can log > into a terminal then manually run 'startx' whe

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Michael M. Moore
Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael M. Moore wrote: > >> So, assuming I'm not interested in a multi-head setup, not connecting to >> remote terminals or something, not at all put out by logging in from a >> console rather that a pretty screen with flowers and butterflies, nor by >>

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael M. Moore wrote: > better, then add more bones and some flesh as I learn.  I don't really > want to go the whole Linux from Scratch route -- not enough time, > energy, or interest to do that with a system I probably would get tired > of trying to maintain an

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Michael M. Moore
Quentin Hartman wrote: > > > > > For me the question becomes, "Why not use it?". It's already there. > For my use, it's functionally the same as any other login method, and > offers no perceptible drawbacks[1]. Removing it would simply be more > effort without real purpose, which seems it would

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Michael M. Moore wrote: > So, assuming I'm not interested in a multi-head setup, not connecting to > remote terminals or something, not at all put out by logging in from a > console rather that a pretty screen with flowers and butterflies, nor by > editing .xinitrc if I want t

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Quentin Hartman
Simply put, they handle graphical login. Some of the more sophisticated ones, like GDM, allow for remote login, timed login, and other shiny things. A lot of shiny things you probably don't need, want, or care about. And they are things most people don't care about. They do care about a pretty logi

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:45, Rogan Creswick wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Michael M. Moore > wrote: >> >> I just thought, since most distros seem to use one by default, it must >> do Something Important.  But I don't know what that might be. >> > > My understanding is that it is a

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Tim Slighter
its all about personal preference. I totally lock my laptop down so that it only comes up in console mode only with everything in place (encrypted file systems, bastille, noshell, etc) and try at all possible to conduct all my internet activity using console based tools only. Snownews for rss, mu

Re: [PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Michael M. Moore wrote: > > I just thought, since most distros seem to use one by default, it must > do Something Important.  But I don't know what that might be. > My understanding is that it is a security-related. I can't test this at the moment, but I think y

[PLUG] back to basics (some advice sought)

2009-02-27 Thread Michael M. Moore
For a variety of reasons too numerous to go into, I'm getting a yen really to simplify computing things as much as possible -- within reason, I guess, though maybe even unreasonably at first. Call it a learning experience. 2 thousand 0 0 party over oops out of time, tonight we're gonna comput