> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:26, Gideon N. Guillen wrote:
>
> > What I don't get is how were the machines able to survive the nukes since
> > nuclear explosions
> > produce EMPs... it's clear from the Matrix trilogy that the machines are
> > vulnerable to EMPs. :) The narrator even said that the mac
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:26, Gideon N. Guillen wrote:
> What I don't get is how were the machines able to survive the nukes since
> nuclear explosions
> produce EMPs... it's clear from the Matrix trilogy that the machines are
> vulnerable to EMPs. :) The narrator even said that the machines didn't
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 02:58, Paolo Vanni M. Veñegas wrote:
> *shrugs* There are a lot of things that could have happened to make
> the situation so. In the Animatrix series, the machines eventually
> took over the human civilizations (except Zion), so it's quite
> possible that they destroyed a lo
optimus wrote:
> Open-source development methodologies have been more efficient
> in combining these two programming skills, on the basis that it
> allows more developers with different talents to cooperate.
Not necessarily.
The commercial GUI environments are currently far ahead of open
source o
Quoting Bong Munoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes, we're a pathetic lot. Brian's notion of academic
> Darwinism appeals to my neanderthal senses -- I would've
> been one of the earliest victims.
Bong!!! The phoenix rises from the ashes!! Welcome home!!
> However, if you just want to incubate uber
Gabriel L. Briones III wrote:
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Hello pluggers
Anyone here knows how to capture keystrokes using shell scripts? I've
manage to capture normal keys but not arrow keys, esc, and function
keys.
this is not shell-based but if you would like to try, pytho
Quoting fooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> two problems only need a formula and you need
> c^2 = a^2 + b^2 to start with to solve that problem
> and it can be done in one-liner code :->
In Problem E, we are given the coordinates of the three
vertices of a triangle, and we are asked to write a
progra
Hey Jon!
Sorry for this OT but is there a way I can check the status of my camera?
I had it checked sa Sony Megamall. I noticed Solid Service yung email mo. :D
3-4 weeks raw kasi eh. I need to use it next week na sana.
Thanks.
Cheers,
fritz
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On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:53 am, optimus wrote:
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 9:38 am, fooler wrote:
> > matrix reloaded (part II), the chief architect of matrix is using ssh
> > version 1 eventhough that year is already AD2199 :->
>
> Yeah, that's one boo-boo the Wachovsky brothers forgot
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Hello pluggers
Anyone here knows how to capture keystrokes using shell scripts? I've
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keys.
anyone?
thanks
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Bong Munoz wrote:
Pablo Manalastas wrote:
How come they're so good, and we're so bad?
Yes, we're a pathetic lot. Brian's notion of academic Darwinism appeals
to my neanderthal senses -- I would've been one of the earliest victims.
Haha, somehow I doubt that.
As Alan Perlis said, "I think that
Oddly, we're having a very similar discussion on the nlug list.
Michael
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Pablo Manalastas wrote:
How come they're so good, and we're so bad?
Yes, we're a pathetic lot. Brian's notion of academic Darwinism appeals
to my neanderthal senses -- I would've been one of the earliest victims.
Would we turn out programming geniuses if we were to turn our liberal
arts heavy u
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From: "Sacha Chua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [plug] Re: Programming in the Philippines.
> "fooler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > those questions are mor
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:39:10PM +0800, JM Ibanez wrote:
> Does anyone have links to the kernel developer's discussion on the
> interaction between GCC versions and the kernel?
I think this has to do with use of the -march and -mcpu flags to gcc.
If your kernel was built with a -march=, and your
"fooler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> those questions are more on math-oriented problems... i would rather send
> engineering students with an average programming skills rather than a
Not all. Take a look at the ACM problems at http://acm.uva.es
(excellent resource!), and you'll find a number of
Jan Alonzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > How come they're so good, and we're so bad?
>> I blame the teachers.
> Professors can only do so much. At the end of the day, it still lies on
> the individual's/student's discipline and love for hacking (if any).
I believe that is part of the professor
2003/11/14 (é) 00:53 ã optimus ãããæ:
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 9:38 am, fooler wrote:
>
> > matrix reloaded (part II), the chief architect of matrix is using
ssh
> > version 1 eventhough that year is already AD2199 :->
>
>
> Yeah, that's one boo-boo the Wachovsky brothers forgot to cor
First of all, it’s only a movie. Its great, the special effects, the
sound track and all. It’s for our entertainment, not all people are
technologically savvy that they know what ssh version 1 is, holographic
image, wireless data transmission, probably that is the reason why
Matrix still showed
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jun Tanamal wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD IP_Dummynet from a bootable floppy. I need
> help how to assign IP's to each of the two NICS in the machine (as a
> bridge) to start my bandwidth controlling :)
>
> Lastly, is it ok to ask FreeBSD questions here
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From: "fooler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [plug] [OT] Programming in the Philippines.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pablo Manalastas" <[EMAIL
optimus said:
> Yeah, that's one boo-boo the Wachovsky brothers forgot to correct.
>
> There are lots of boo-boos with the Matrix. Here's some:
>
> QWERTY keyboards in AD2199? After 199 years, they haven't thought of using
> a
> virtual, holographic keyboard for data input? By the way, there's
>
if i remember correctly ateneo also pays sub-15K for new faculty. we are not
that different pala after all. i wouldn't know exactly because i teach part-time.
Quoting Rommel P Feria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> First of all, I apologize for this rather weird quoting behaviour of my webmail. :-)
>
Quoting Rommel P Feria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Just some info on UPD's CS programme.
>
> UPD CS programme is not employment-oriented. Meaning, we do not teach our students
> to be
> marketable. Our students get more theoretical computer sciences and mathematics.
> This is what
> companies are
Hi Jun,
you can use the picobsd included in the src of FreeBSD
(/usr/src/release/picobsd), just modify the /etc/rc.conf file to assign
ip addresses on your NICS.
You can join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for *BSD specific questions.
=)
HTH
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 08:26, Jun Tanamal wrote:
> Hi there,
>
Hi there,
I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD IP_Dummynet from a bootable floppy. I need
help how to assign IP's to each of the two NICS in the machine (as a
bridge) to start my bandwidth controlling :)
Lastly, is it ok to ask FreeBSD questions here in the PLUG list?
Thanks.
-Jun
--
Philippine Lin
Just some info on UPD's CS programme.
UPD CS programme is not employment-oriented. Meaning, we do not teach our students to
be marketable. Our students get more theoretical computer sciences and mathematics.
This is what companies are often telling us -- teach Visual Basic since it is popular
In as much as I don't want to be off-topic but the British educational system does not
necessary alienate the students from in-classroom learning. It's just done in a
different way. The traditional all lecture classes is no longer effective - I know,
been working with the Director for Instructi
First of all, I apologize for this rather weird quoting behaviour of my webmail. :-)
Anyway, UP faculty salary starts at a little less than 15K. Yes, it is that low.
Chances are your parents may not be happy if you end up teaching in UP, specially if
they have invested a lot on you to get educa
Quoting Andy Sy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
[...]
> But really, I don't know why I bother to keep on repeating myself
> since it's pretty apparent you've been pretty clueless about the
> subject at hand from your first post and instead of actually bothering
> to understand or at least shutting up, are s
On Thursday 13 November 2003 6:42 pm, Orlando Andico wrote:
> And alam ko sa UP sub-20k ang starting. Baka sub-15k pa nga eh.. of course
> UP yun. Alam ko Ateneo is better in this regard. Pero at least sa UP,
> pwede ka mag postgrad at no cost. Baka makapunta ka pa sa Purdue or sa
> Imperial Colle
On Thursday 13 November 2003 3:31 am, Andy Sy wrote:
> We should be aware and acknowledge that knowing how to do voodoo coding is
> a different skill from engineering good interfaces. In other words,
> one can be a master in the black arts of deep hacking, but be a total
> klutz at designing usab
On Thursday 13 November 2003 2:05 pm, Bopolissimus Platypus wrote:
> parents are partly to blame. they listen to predictions that computers
> (or nursing, or medicine, or PT, or whatever the flavor of the year
> is) is going to be a big moneymaker,
Yeah, parents are partly to blame when they lo
On Thursday 13 November 2003 9:38 am, fooler wrote:
> matrix reloaded (part II), the chief architect of matrix is using ssh
> version 1 eventhough that year is already AD2199 :->
Yeah, that's one boo-boo the Wachovsky brothers forgot to correct.
There are lots of boo-boos with the Matrix. Here
Rick Moen wrote:
You may or may not have noticed my qualifier ("Last time I tried the
Slackware approch [...] but things may have changed"), despite your
having quoted it. It seems that things have indeed changed.
Trust me. Much has changed.
I've helped people get Slackware going since then, f
Software developers on Wednesday detected and thwarted a hacker's
scheme to submerge a slick backdoor in the next version of the Linux
kernel, but security experts say the abortive caper proves that
extremely subtle source code tampering is more than just the stuff of
paranoid speculation.
Th
On Thursday 13 November 2003 20:43, Marc Henry Galang wrote:
> uh-oh, my system is startin to slow down... mouse movements are slower...
> think I need to stop the script before my computer hangs, or else this
> mail is going nowhere.
was that in windows or some *nix?
tiger
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Andy Sy said:
> Maybe someone with Cygwin can try it on Windows since iirc, Cygwin
> emulates fork().
im right now trying it while typing this message, hmm... no effect it
seems im still typing. and still... nothing...
> I remember a simple endless malloc() would quickly bring an earlier
> and besides, yun mga pinoy na magagaling sa programming
> ay may dugong chinese.
Just like the fact that the Philippines has a lot of indigenous
natural resources but fail to take advantage of them, so I
notice that the problem here is not lack of _raw_ intellectual
ability (lots of good filipino
> and besides, yun mga pinoy na magagaling sa programming
> ay may dugong chinese.
Just like the fact that the Philippines has a lot of indigenous
natural resources but fail to take advantage of them, so I
notice that the problem here is not lack of _raw_ intellectual
ability (lots of good filipino
> Has anyone here tried this code below on their linux machines?:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> while(1){
>malloc(100);
>fork();
> }
>
> #results may vary
> #this also works in C and sh
>
> So far ive tried it on some distros that I have(redhat 7.3, mandrake 8,
> mandrake 9.1, slackware 9, and st
Pablo Manalastas wrote:
> 4. Because they love to program, and they get orgasm when they
> finally get that elusive code to compute the incenter given
> the coordinates of the three vertices, or generate all proper
> subgroups of a finite group, etc. We, we get our orgasm the
> normal way.
What's
Quoting Andy Sy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I'm not quite sure what you mean.
I mean I'm a _really_ oldtimer. I haven't actually _personally_ run
Slackware since RH 2.0. Just for context.
Trust me. Much has changed.
I've helped people get Slackware going since then, frequently, but not
maintain
> You may or may not have noticed my qualifier ("Last time I tried the
> Slackware approch [...] but things may have changed"), despite your
> having quoted it. It seems that things have indeed changed.
>
> (But I always did like Slackware, anyway.)
I'm not quite sure what you mean.
As far as I k
Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote:
hmmm. if we want to make our CS programs more relevant to the needs of the industry
why not teach COBOL, CICS and other legacy stuff.
hehehe.
noon estudyante pa lng ako noon, lagi akong nagre-reklamo
sa mga itinuturing kong obsolete na subjects. gusto ko
kasing mag
Its the process of education that we need to blame.
some of the schools still use the traditional way of teaching
like..alibata style of programming (meaning memorization of syntax and code)
which doesn't encourage problem solving skills.
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Andy Sy wrote:
It takes great skill to be able to engineer all that power into
a piece of software and it takes a great amount of a different kind
of skill to make such power accessible.
Errr... maybe not exactly 'great amount of skill'... but rather an
artful insight into user <-> software intera
Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla wrote:
That being said, despite your choice of a few bad examples, your main
thesis isn't invalidated. The biggest example I would give is the state
of GNU/Linux on the desktop as a whole. That depends totally on
usability, and how usable are Gnome and KDE compared to even
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Brian Baquiran wrote:
..
> Haha. You first! ;)
Me? a high-school graduate?!
bwahahahahahahahaha! (TM)
..
> That ought to weed out the weak and unworthy. Academic Darwinism!
The problem with that scheme is -- let's say you teach at ADMU, which is
one of the better-paying sch
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Bopolissimus Platypus wrote:
..
> programs to anyone who can afford the tuition. and then you get
> people who, when they graduate, are competent only to reinstall
> windows and install CounterStrike at internet cafes. a lot of
This one's priceless. :D
Very well said!
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Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote:
Maybe the thought occurred to these guys is that if you can't be
responsible to learn the concepts behind the code, you aren't fit to use
it? GNU tools are not normally for mere mortals...
That's only because they have yet to re-engineer some of them
for usability and no
Quoting JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ... so maybe they'll have Linux next year. Who knows?)
This year and the year before, each team was allowed to bring
its own mouse and keyboard. If and when U.A.& P. installs Linux
in the contestants' workstations next year, will the contestants
be allowe
hmmm. if we want to make our CS programs more relevant to the needs of the industry
why not teach COBOL, CICS and other legacy stuff.
what do you think?
Quoting "Paolo Vanni M. Veñegas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:17 am, Brian Baquiran wrote:
> > I'd definitely be th
On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:17 am, Brian Baquiran wrote:
> I'd definitely be the most hated CS teacher on campus. I'd use SICP and
> Knuth as textbooks, teach the basics in Scheme and/or MIXAL, require TeX
> documentation (like ADMU's Ps/CE is doing now) and all projects would be
> solo or XP-s
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 05:17, Rommel P Feria wrote:
> Ahhh - the flaw of using the US educational system here in the
> country. I believe that it is not ideal for our situation. We are
> better off using the British education system. I think we are the only
> asian country using the US educational s
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:13, Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote:
> > 3. Because for our foreign counterparts, programming is a way
> > of life, like walking or breathing. For us, programming is
> > a homework assignment due in three weeks, which we try to finish
> > one or two nights before the deadline.
>
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:32, Pablo Manalastas wrote:
> To put this on track: Why doesn't U.A. & P use Linux for
> the ACM programming contest? After all, PC^2 runs on Linux!
>
Not necessarily speaking for UA&P, there have been plans ever since last
year's contest to run Linux in the labs. It'll
I recently upgraded my system from Slackware 8.1 to 9.1 (which includes
an upgrade of eye candy to GNOME 2 and KDE 3.1 :). With the upgrade, I
switched from GCC 2.95.3 to 3.2.3, as well as a clean kernel recompile.
However, since I am using a closed-source, binary-only module for my
WinModem (whic
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