[plug] Working in, out, and with Emacs (was Re: emacs versus xemacs)

2005-02-14 Thread Zak B. Elep
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the tons of packages for emacs are.. nice. but i think there are > better individual pieces of software that do what the emacs packages > do (e.g. mail client, web browser). i never did like the emacs "one > size fits all" philosophy. I don't think it

Re: [plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread Orlando Andico
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:21:28 +0800, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > all this talk of Emacs and XEmacs... you ought to try Visual Studio > > .NET 2003 :D > > I wish! Can you give me a free (to use and to modify) copy? :P Ha. Ha. Let's no

[plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread Zak B. Elep
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > all this talk of Emacs and XEmacs... you ought to try Visual Studio > .NET 2003 :D I wish! Can you give me a free (to use and to modify) copy? :P -- ZAK B. ELEP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- 1024D/FA53851D

Re: [plug] VMWare screen shots

2005-02-14 Thread Drexx Laggui
14Feb2005 (UTC +8) Danny, I guess this reply is a bit late, but here's a quick and easy way of getting VMWare running on your machine for about 30 days: http://www.sans.org/conference/forensic_install.pdf On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:27:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friends in

Re: [plug] Ethereal on Xandros 2.5 Business

2005-02-14 Thread David Meyer
libpcap is installed. Any other suggestions? On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:30:32 +0800, Paolo Dizon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maybe you need libpcap. is it already installed? > > David Meyer wrote: > > >Well I have finally come to a point where my knowledge has run > >out...and now I need help. I

Re: [plug] Build a Linux-powered cat feeder

2005-02-14 Thread Prem Vilas Fortran Rara
Excellent documentation! On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:09:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7403 > > Looks like you might need some knowledge of electronics but I'm not sure. > > Enjoy. -- http://www.premrara.com -- Philippine Linux Users' Gr

Re: [plug] Ethereal on Xandros 2.5 Business

2005-02-14 Thread Paolo Dizon
maybe you need libpcap. is it already installed? David Meyer wrote: Well I have finally come to a point where my knowledge has run out...and now I need help. I am running Xandros 2.5 Business on a DELL Laptop. EVERYTHING works perfectly...until I tried to get Ethereal up and running...it won't fi

Re: [plug] Emacs fangirl-ism (was Re: emacs versus xemacs)

2005-02-14 Thread Orlando Andico
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:39:32 +0900, Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > "One size fits all" is definitely not the Emacs philosophy. In > fact, I'd venture to say that it is the exact opposite of the Emacs > way. With more than five mail clients, three ways of browsing the Web, > and numerou

Re: [plug] imap error

2005-02-14 Thread jepoy
yes, i tried using the ip add of the server. same error. i used an rpm to install it. --- Allen Umlas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did you try using ip address(ethX) rather than your > localhost ip to telnet your port 143? so where did > you > get the error? during installation or after telnet >

[plug] Emacs fangirl-ism (was Re: emacs versus xemacs)

2005-02-14 Thread Sacha Chua
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the tons of packages for emacs are.. nice. but i think there are > better individual pieces of software that do what the emacs packages > do (e.g. mail client, web browser). i never did like the emacs "one > size fits all" philosophy. "One size fits al

Re: [plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread JM Ibanez
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:57:40 +0800, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > all this talk of Emacs and XEmacs... you ought to try Visual Studio > .NET 2003 :D I have actually -- and I still use Emacs (at least the XEmacs Win32 port, easier to set up) for editing instead of the builtin editor

Re: [plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread Orlando Andico
at the risk of sounding off-topic.. i hardly consider myself an emacs "expert" -- the only killer app for emacs i ever used was the inferior debugger. nice, if you're doing C programming. but i guess i never did sufficiently complex C programming that the inferior debugger was really needed. the

Re: [plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread JM Ibanez
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:42:28 +0900, Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > they are the same (well more-or-less). XEmacs is just Emacs with an > > X/Motif (or other GUI) front end. it also trails the stock Emacs by a > > few releases (e.g. 20.15 vs

Re: [plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread Orlando Andico
all this talk of Emacs and XEmacs... you ought to try Visual Studio .NET 2003 :D -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://l

[plug] Re: emacs versus xemacs

2005-02-14 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am about to replace my text editor (kwrite). Any thoughts on emacs? > xemacs over GNU emacs? You could always try one over the other, and see which fits you. :D In my experience, I went straight to apt-get -y emacs21, read the docs, tweaked a nice .emacs,