the first place (and why)
Ted
-Original Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2023 5:53 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
While I firmly disagree, I don't have any isssue with people who want to
g kids in school to sit down and
> shut up. Happily that view is gradually changing but it's clear we still have
> a lot of work to do.
>
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> From: PLUG plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org on behalf of
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From: PLUG on behalf of Ben Koenig
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2023 5:29:40 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
--- Original Message ---
On Tuesday, April 18th, 2023 at 8:38 AM, Ishak Micheil
wrote:
> G
--- Original Message ---
On Tuesday, April 18th, 2023 at 8:38 AM, Ishak Micheil
wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am tasked to identify a solution to detecting users obfuscating their ip,
> using verity of VPN services.
>
> What we've done
> - Prevent users from installing software (VPN Cliens)
and afraid to talk to
> > > employees.
> > >
> > > Is it simply that a large number of IT people are on the autism spectrum
> > > and have social anxiety disorder that they will literally waste weeks of
> > > company time on elaborate technical solutions t
al Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of Denis Heidtmann
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2023 4:39 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
What (positive) contribution do your insults bring to the discussion? Can you
find a less hostile way to contribute?
-De
Practices security manual to pound
sand.
Sorry about that.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2023 4:02 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
Don't be such a dipshit.
Yes, HR and Management are respo
tions that can be handled in 5
> minutes by a manager walking up to an employee and saying "hey dude you
> know that thing you are doing with the VPN, well knock it off"
> >
> > Or is it that their anxiety disorder and desire to Play God just drives
> them to be
ey dude you know that thing
> you are doing with the VPN, well knock it off"
>
> Or is it that their anxiety disorder and desire to Play God just drives them
> to believe that every other employee in the company is trying to screw IT???
>
> Sheesh!!!
>
> Ted
>
&
o an employee and saying "hey dude you
> know that thing you are doing with the VPN, well knock it off"
>
> Or is it that their anxiety disorder and desire to Play God just drives
> them to believe that every other employee in the company is trying to screw
> IT???
>
&
n Behalf Of Daniel Ortiz
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 1:39 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
Disclaimer: some of the following if not all could be wrong.
Wouldn't it be easier to deal with the credentials side to avoid this problem
in the first
Disclaimer: some of the following if not all could be wrong.
Wouldn't it be easier to deal with the credentials side to avoid this
problem in the first place? To illustrate what I mean, here's a theoretical
idea that while it might be flawed (like potential security failures),
could be useful in t
-Original Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of Ishak Micheil
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:29 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
>We shall conquer!
Ah, no you won't. But go ahead and think that if it makes you sleep easier.
We're chasing this from data science side as well. As far as charting the
pattern of activity and flag anomalies.
This should trap the subs since he/she won't be checking email, responding
to chat messages etc, or hopefully time of activity could give us clues.
I do agree, there are many VPN comme
I'm pretty sure I saw J Jason Jordan on the TV the other day railing that
Spider Man is public enemy number 1.
:)
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:50 AM Michael Rasmussen
wrote:
> On 2023-04-18 12:01, Ishak Micheil wrote:
> > John is a contractor, hires someone else to do the work. Vdi setup,
> > he
>
On 2023-04-18 12:01, Ishak Micheil wrote:
John is a contractor, hires someone else to do the work. Vdi setup,
he
shares his creds with the subcontractor who possibly actually in a
different country. Using VPN services prior to logging in to mask
thier
locations .
Ahh, you've discovered t
-Original Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of John Jason Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 2:00 PM
>It would be nice if VPN services advertised how effectively they stop others
>from finding out who and where you really are.
They are never going to do this because they are constantly
icheil
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 12:02 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: Re: [PLUG] 3rd party vpn Defense evasion
The use cases I'm working on is to Prevent employees or contractors from
subcontracting work.
John is a contractor, hires someone else to do the work. Vdi se
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 17:38:23 +
Ted Mittelstaedt dijo:
>It's not going to be possible to block all VPNs.
I've been using a VPN for several years now, currently Mullvad
(Stockholm based). I'm curious about the efficacy of various VPN
services. I selected Mullvad (and PIA previously) based on h
The use cases I'm working on is to Prevent employees or contractors from
subcontracting work.
John is a contractor, hires someone else to do the work. Vdi setup, he
shares his creds with the subcontractor who possibly actually in a
different country. Using VPN services prior to logging in to m
Can you elaborate, in general terms, on what the goal is?
--
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 8:38 AM Ishak Micheil wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am tasked to identify a solution to detecting users obfuscating their ip,
> using verity of VPN services.
>
> What we've d
nst the administration. The last thing
any company owner should want is to seek to duplicate that kind of environment
in their company.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: PLUG On Behalf Of Ishak Micheil
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 8:38 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group
Subject: [PLU
Greetings,
I am tasked to identify a solution to detecting users obfuscating their ip,
using verity of VPN services.
What we've done
- Prevent users from installing software (VPN Cliens)
- Possibly having a code on endpoints, to collect ip addresses tied to wifi
or LAN connection prior to attachi
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