On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 2:12 PM Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On 2021-04-23 08:23, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> > Take it to PLUG-Talk.
>
> Ditto
Senior Stupid already made it clear he doesn't want to discuss the fact
that he mangled an email and then insulted me.
Nothing left to discuss. Such is
On 2021-04-23 08:23, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
Take it to PLUG-Talk.
Ditto
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> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:40 AM Russell Senior
> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
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>> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
>>
>> > wrote:
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>> > > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
>> > > line and not an
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
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>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
>> wrote:
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>> > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
>> > line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
>> > me to conclude the IRB
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:40 AM Russell Senior
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
> > > line and not an exclamation mark. I think
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
> wrote:
>
> > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
> > line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
> > me to conclude the IRB made a
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
> wrote:
>
> > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
> > line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
> > me to conclude the IRB made a
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior
wrote:
> I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
> line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
> me to conclude the IRB made a mistake in deciding there were no human
> subjects to consider, even
I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
me to conclude the IRB made a mistake in deciding there were no human
subjects to consider, even if there is some narrow rule that allowed
them to exempt the
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 7:20 AM Tomas Kuchta
wrote:
> I tend to think that the subject of this thread is inappropriate,
> definitely judgemental, threatening, mob like mentality.
>
> So far, only one side has spoken. The other one has committed to
> investigate and report back.
>
> So, if we want
I tend to think that the subject of this thread is inappropriate,
definitely judgemental, threatening, mob like mentality.
So far, only one side has spoken. The other one has committed to
investigate and report back.
So, if we want to be fair, we should wait for facts. If we do not get
answers
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
https://cse.umn.edu/cs/statement-cse-linux-kernel-research-april-21-2021
One thing is certain: the web designers at The U* are certainly
committed to the school colors.
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The question they were asking is interesting, but (as someone said to
me this evening) it is sort of the equivalent of placing a bomb on an
airliner to see if it will be discovered before it explodes. Also, it
seems like the subjects of the experiment were human (users of the
software) and so the
The paper includes this line: "IRB [...] determined this is not human
research. We obtained a formal IRB-exempt letter"
IRB stands for Institutional Review Board and any research institution
is going to have one. Here's the wikipedia page about IRBs in general:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> PSU has a policy that requires admin. review of any experiments to be
> conducted on humans. That got some people in trouble for testing
> publications' response to submitted articles using bogus stuff. I wonder
> if the UNM has such a
PSU has a policy that requires admin. review of any experiments to be
conducted on humans. That got some people in trouble for testing
publications' response to submitted articles using bogus stuff. I wonder
if the UNM has such a requirement, and, if so, I wonder if it was followed.
-Denis
On
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:32 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
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> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:19 AM Jason Barbier wrote:
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>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
>> >
>> > >
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:19 AM Jason Barbier wrote:
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>
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> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
> >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
> > >
>
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
>
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
> > https://github.com/QiushiWu/QiushiWu.github.io/blob/main/papers/OpenSourceInsecurity.pdf
> >
> > Holy crap, way to
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:02 AM Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
>
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
> >
> https://github.com/QiushiWu/QiushiWu.github.io/blob/main/papers/OpenSourceInsecurity.pdf
> >
> > Holy crap, way to step on
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
https://github.com/QiushiWu/QiushiWu.github.io/blob/main/papers/OpenSourceInsecurity.pdf
Holy crap, way to step on it with golf shoes!
I wonder if anyone has ever written anything on
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 6:46 AM Ben Koenig wrote:
>
> I tried to read the github doc from umn but the webpage made my phone
> freeze up.
Works for me, maybe try on a real computer?
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I tried to read the github doc from umn but the webpage made my phone
freeze up.
Now I feel excluded from the convo :,-(
-Ben
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 6:33 AM Russell Senior
wrote:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
>
>
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/yh%2ffm%2ftsbmczz...@kroah.com/
https://github.com/QiushiWu/QiushiWu.github.io/blob/main/papers/OpenSourceInsecurity.pdf
Holy crap, way to step on it with golf shoes!
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