On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Charles Curley <
charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:22:42PM -0400, Jones, Scott (GE Money,
> consultant) wrote:
> > I have a few friends who are nice and fun otherwise, but have no clue
> > about sending email to their vast group of
On 09 Apr 2009, at 16:48, Gabriel Gunderson wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a
week?
I'm sorry, I'd love to answer this, but I'm busy at the moment. Would
you mind asking again in a few minutes. TH
On Thursday 09 April 2009 4:41:17 pm Stuart Jansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 16:22 -0600, Jessie Morris wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
>
> I saw an actual spam email make it to my inbox a little more than a
> month ago. Why?
Nooo how
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Frank Sorenson wrote:
>> How about opening the fifo read/write, which doesn't block:
>> # exec 4<> dave_fifo
>> # ls -alF /proc/$$/fd
>> ...
>> lrwx-- 1 sorenson sorenson 64 2009-04-09 18:14 4 -> /tmp/dave_fifo|
>>
>> Here's an
Frank Sorenson wrote:
How about opening the fifo read/write, which doesn't block:
# exec 4<> dave_fifo
# ls -alF /proc/$$/fd
...
lrwx-- 1 sorenson sorenson 64 2009-04-09 18:14 4 -> /tmp/dave_fifo|
Here's an example script:
#!/bin/bash
exec 4<> /tmp/dave_fifo
(sleep 2 ; kill -SIGUSR1 $$ ; ec
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Dave Smith wrote:
> I'm writing a bash script that communicates with a daemon process using
> a fifo. I am trying to bulletproof the script to safeguard myself if the
> daemon process crashes before it starts writing to the fifo. UNIX
> hackers will kn
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:22:42PM -0400, Jones, Scott (GE Money, consultant)
wrote:
> I have a few friends who are nice and fun otherwise, but have no clue
> about sending email to their vast group of friends. You know, the ones
> who include all 50 pages of the email which includes the headers w
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
I'm sorry, I'd love to answer this, but I'm busy at the moment. Would
you mind asking again in a few minutes. THANKS!
Gabe
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> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
> wrote:
>>> Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
>>>
>
> I have received 100 spam emails today, and SpamAssasin has caught 66,577
> since I started using it. I'm not sure how long I've been using it
> because the da
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 16:22 -0600, Jessie Morris wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
I saw an actual spam email make it to my inbox a little more than a
month ago. Why?
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
I have received 100 spam emails today, and SpamAssasin has caught 66,577
since I started using it. I'm not sure how long I've been using it
because the dates on th
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
> --
> Jessie Morris
>
Currently in my GMail spam folder (which I never see): 1708
In the main inbox: 3 have slipped through in the past month.
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jessie Morris
wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, how many spam emails do you guys receive a week?
>
> --
>
> Jessie Morris
Jessie,
I found what I was looking for when we talked last night.
http://tmda.net/
Hope that helps.
Clint
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On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 15:53 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Brandon Stout wrote:
> >> We should make some penalty for those that spam us. We should create a log
> >> of
> >> our most sent spammer IP's or something and post their email addresses on
> >> the
> >> internet.. Too bad most of the
On Thursday 09 April 2009 3:58:54 pm Brandon Stout wrote:
> Michael Torrie wrote:
> > I'm not convinced that RBLs are effective anyway.
>
> When I worked at Verio, if we installed the sendmail RBLs, it would
> bring an immediate halt to almost all their spam. It definitely works.
> Furthermore, I
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Michael Torrie wrote:
> I'm not convinced that RBLs are effective anyway.
When I worked at Verio, if we installed the sendmail RBLs, it would
bring an immediate halt to almost all their spam. It definitely works.
Furthermore, I never ran into anyone
Brandon Stout wrote:
>> We should make some penalty for those that spam us. We should create a log
>> of
>> our most sent spammer IP's or something and post their email addresses on
>> the
>> internet.. Too bad most of the spam IP's are just open relays... :(
>
> That's already been done.
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Jessie Morris wrote:
> We should make some penalty for those that spam us. We should create a log of
> our most sent spammer IP's or something and post their email addresses on the
> internet.. Too bad most of the spam IP's are just open relays.
On Thursday 09 April 2009 3:34:24 pm Dave Smith wrote:
> Stuart Jansen wrote:
> > But if everyone else starts greylisting, spammers will get smarter
>
> What?! Greylisting makes spammers smarter? Yikes!
>
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Stuart Jansen wrote:
But if everyone else starts greylisting, spammers will get smarter
What?! Greylisting makes spammers smarter? Yikes!
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On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 14:44 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Greylisting has worked very well for me. In fact I get so few spam
> message through that I can't even train dspam.
Don't listen to him! He's lying! Grey listing doesn't work and never
has. Don't waste your time. It isn't even worth it. I
Dave Smith wrote:
Okay, got it. This sandbox script simulates a blocking call (sleeping
for 2 seconds in this case) in a backgrounded subshell, which signals
when it's done. Thanks Nicholas!
Oh crap. This won't work because the subshell needs to open a file
descriptor that my parent shell w
Nicholas Leippe wrote:
kill -USR1 # should do it
$$ # has the pid of the current process--just pass that in to the child
Okay, got it. This sandbox script simulates a blocking call (sleeping
for 2 seconds in this case) in a backgrounded subshell, which signals
when it's done. Thanks Nicho
On Thursday 09 April 2009 2:44:19 pm Michael Torrie wrote:
> Jessie Morris wrote:
> > Postgrey was almost exactly what I was looking for. :) With Postgrey it's
> > almost completely automatic.
> >
> > For anybody else looking for this kind of system, here's a pretty good
> > link talking about how
On Thu Apr 9 2009 14:48:09 Dave Smith wrote:
> Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> > An opposite timeout approach could be:
> >
> > 1) set a flag
> > 2) create a trap handler that clears the flag
> > 3) do your write in backgrounded subshell, that signals the parent when
> > finished
> > 4) after spawning the
Nicholas Leippe wrote:
An opposite timeout approach could be:
1) set a flag
2) create a trap handler that clears the flag
3) do your write in backgrounded subshell, that signals the parent when
finished
4) after spawning the subshell, sleep (your timeout)
5) then check the flag
I think I'
Jessie Morris wrote:
> Postgrey was almost exactly what I was looking for. :) With Postgrey it's
> almost completely automatic.
>
> For anybody else looking for this kind of system, here's a pretty good link
> talking about how to do it.
>
> http://www.roedie.nl/wiki/index.php/Spam_Filtering_Wi
On Thursday 09 April 2009 1:17:11 pm Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Jessie Morris wrote:
> > I was wondering if there was any way that I could make my mail system
> > respond to emails received with a link that says something to the effect
> > of, "If you're a human, click here to be allowed." I've done s
Dave Smith wrote:
> I'm writing a bash script that communicates with a daemon process using
> a fifo. I am trying to bulletproof the script to safeguard myself if the
> daemon process crashes before it starts writing to the fifo.
Hmm. You might need to look into Perl or Python. Use ioctl to u
An opposite timeout approach could be:
1) set a flag
2) create a trap handler that clears the flag
3) do your write in backgrounded subshell, that signals the parent when
finished
4) after spawning the subshell, sleep (your timeout)
5) then check the flag
This may provide more graceful cleanup,
What about:
1) create a trap handler
2) set a flag
3) background a subshell that sleeps then signals the parent (your timeout)
4) attempt the write, after which clear the flag
5) if the trap handler finds the flag still set, you're blocked and can exit,
or do whatever.
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Jessie Morris wrote:
I was wondering if there was any way that I could make my mail system respond
to emails received with a link that says something to the effect of, "If you're
a human, click here to be allowed." I've done some searching on Google, and
haven't found a really good system. Idea
I was wondering if there was any way that I could make my mail system respond
to emails received with a link that says something to the effect of, "If you're
a human, click here to be allowed." I've done some searching on Google, and
haven't found a really good system. Ideas?
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On 08 Apr 2009, at 14:46, Kimball Larsen wrote:
In the past I've used OSCommerce[1] and ZenCart[2]. I've just
discovered and am investigating Magento[3].
What others are out there? Anyone have any feelings approaching
zealotry for one?
I am still looking for a favorite. Magento is p
Exactly what I was wanting. Thanks Matthew!
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I'm writing a bash script that communicates with a daemon process using
a fifo. I am trying to bulletproof the script to safeguard myself if the
daemon process crashes before it starts writing to the fifo. UNIX
hackers will know that opening a fifo for reading will block until the
writing side
On Thu, April 9, 2009 11:31 am, Jones, Scott (GE Money, consultant) wrote:
> You are right But isn't there some text I can keep handy to send
> them back about netiquette? I know I have reached a few. I'll keep
> looking.
You could just refer them to this:
http://www.emailreplies.com/
--
M
You are right But isn't there some text I can keep handy to send
them back about netiquette? I know I have reached a few. I'll keep
looking.
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Kimball Larsen
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:3
I've found the best solution is to simply let them live in their
ignorance. Just about any approach to "correcting" them will be seen
as condescending and rude.
When I receive those emails I chuckle to myself as I hit delete.
- Kimball
http://www.kimballlarsen.com
On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:22
On Apr 8, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Matthew Walker wrote:
On Wed, April 8, 2009 2:46 pm, Kimball Larsen wrote:
In the past I've used OSCommerce[1] and ZenCart[2]. I've just
discovered and am investigating Magento[3].
What others are out there? Anyone have any feelings approaching
zealotry for one
I have a few friends who are nice and fun otherwise, but have no clue
about sending email to their vast group of friends. You know, the ones
who include all 50 pages of the email which includes the headers with
ALL their friends addresses.
Is there any fun and yet legal way of passing them a litt
On Thu Apr 9 2009 10:47:02 Charles Curley wrote:
> One you likely won't find: at JPL I worked on a home brewed data
> collection computer. The original home brew CPU had an 18 bit wide
> Ampex core. We were adding a small herd of 6502s to supplement and
> eventually replace the home brew CPU.
>
> T
On Thu Apr 9 2009 10:30:13 Michael Torrie wrote:
> Right. But at the time the PDP-10 was made, the "byte" was known
> already as 8-bits, at least in the parlance of data communication. Thus
> if one was programming something on the PDP-10 that would communicate
> with another piece of hardware,
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:57:08AM -0600, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:47:44 Matthew Walker wrote:
> > On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:44 am, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> > > On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
> > >> 8 bits = one byte
> > >
> > > On most machines ;)
> >
> > Now y
Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> The topic in the FAQ is the definition of a byte within the C/C++ language.
> Within that context a byte in C/C++ on a PDP-10 will have 36 bits.
>
> Other languages may do differently of course. But the point is as you said,
> that the smallest addressable unit of memory
On Thu Apr 9 2009 10:00:56 Michael Torrie wrote:
> Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> > http://www.new-brunswick.net/workshop/c++/faq/intrinsic-types.html
> >
> > PDP-10 had 36-bit bytes.
>
> Are you sure you don't mean to say the PDP-10 had 36-bit _words_? I
> think the reference to a 36-bit "byte" is an i
On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:54 am, Joseph Hall wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matthew Walker wrote:
>> Alright, so it didn't take a couple hours. But that was interesting. Thank
>> you for
>> expanding my knowledge, even if it's not a terribly useful piece of
>> information.
>
> Linkage?
Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> http://www.new-brunswick.net/workshop/c++/faq/intrinsic-types.html
>
> PDP-10 had 36-bit bytes.
Are you sure you don't mean to say the PDP-10 had 36-bit _words_? I
think the reference to a 36-bit "byte" is an implementation detail of
the C++ compiler on the PDP-10, not a
On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:47:44 Matthew Walker wrote:
> On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:44 am, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> > On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
> >> 8 bits = one byte
> >
> > On most machines ;)
>
> Now you've piqued my interest. I'm going to go dig around, and try to
> figure out whe
Matthew Walker wrote:
> On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:44 am, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
>> On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
>>> 8 bits = one byte
>> On most machines ;)
>
> Now you've piqued my interest. I'm going to go dig around, and try to figure
> out where
> that statement isn't true.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matthew Walker wrote:
> Alright, so it didn't take a couple hours. But that was interesting. Thank
> you for
> expanding my knowledge, even if it's not a terribly useful piece of
> information.
Linkage?
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On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:47 am, Matthew Walker wrote:
>
> On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:44 am, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
>> On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
>>> 8 bits = one byte
>>
>> On most machines ;)
>
> Now you've piqued my interest. I'm going to go dig around, and try to figure
> out
On Thu, April 9, 2009 9:44 am, Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
>> 8 bits = one byte
>
> On most machines ;)
Now you've piqued my interest. I'm going to go dig around, and try to figure
out where
that statement isn't true. Thanks for ruining my productivi
On Thu Apr 9 2009 09:28:24 Charles Curley wrote:
> 8 bits = one byte
On most machines ;)
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On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 07:26:04AM -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > I recently saw that Mythbusters episode, and my brother has actually had it
> > happen. A weakened CD exploded inside his drive, leaving sharp plastic and
> > aluminum b
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 00:04 -0600, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Nicholas Leippe wrote:
> > On Wed Apr 8 2009 11:11:54 Brandon Stout wrote:
> >> I have an original audio CD that has a crack spreading from the edge.
> >> It's finally reached the last track. Might superglue to hold it
> >> together and tu
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> I recently saw that Mythbusters episode, and my brother has actually had it
> happen. A weakened CD exploded inside his drive, leaving sharp plastic and
> aluminum bits all over inside. I was amazed to see it. He said it made a
> loud ban
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