Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Lloyd Brown
I could be wrong (I'm not our office's resident MySQL guru), but I think that MySQL does some significant caching into DRAM. So, if you're worried about the query time of an uncached query, then possibly, but otherwise, I'd just let the caching algorithm handle it. Also depends on what you're req

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Lance Grover
I have put a mysql server on a Fusion IO Solid State drive and yes it really speeds things up, however I have not tried a regular SSD that would connect to a SAS interface but I would believe it would. Fusion IO drives is basically a PCI card, so it is not limited to the SAS speeds. Also be aware

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Matthew Walker
On 10/01/12 10:16, Lance Grover wrote: > I have put a mysql server on a Fusion IO Solid State drive and yes it > really speeds things up, however I have not tried a regular SSD that would > connect to a SAS interface but I would believe it would. Fusion IO drives > is basically a PCI card, so it i

Re: Durable Solid State Storage?

2012-10-01 Thread Dan Hanks
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation for a well thought out, durable > thumbdrive solution? > Thanks! > I've had one of these in my pocket for some time: http://www.amazon.com/4GB-Metal-Key-Flash-Drive/dp/B005OP2JQ4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=134

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Joshua Marsh
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > Put my mysql database on sdd drive... > > Will my queries run much faster? > > Anybody tried this? > I have had a lot of success doing this. It depends on what your database and read/writes look like though. MySQL does a good job caching r

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Robert Merrill
Yeah, I work for Fusion-io so nobody's shocked ill say this, but there's some evidence for helping your mySql infrastructure via Fusion-io cards. Facebook is running their MySQL farm on Fusion-io cards, and others are taking advantage. Jeremy Zawodny at Craigslist used Fusion-io to take 14 mySq

Re: Durable Solid State Storage?

2012-10-01 Thread James Lance
On Oct 1, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Dan Hanks wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > >> Does anyone have a recommendation for a well thought out, durable >> thumbdrive solution? >> Thanks! >> I'm a little late to this conversation, but LaCie makes a metal key shaped usb ke

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Sasha Pachev
When MySQL performance improves significantly from improvements in disk I/O it is almost always a bad sign. Consider this - if upgrading your car improved your travel time from New York to Los Angeles by 20%, is that good or bad? On the surface it looks great - we are 20% faster. But if we stop to

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread John Shaver
I know BlueHost has been using flash for MySQL for a few years now, and on a very IO-heavy platform with little control over the usage/contents of the databases. I know there are some BlueHost veterans around here with more admin experience than me. Maybe they'd be willing to share some informati

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Alligood
On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Robert Merrill wrote: > > MySql performance blog shows some interesting analysis of RAID vs SSD vs > Fusion-io with some arguably good things to consider if price > performance > in your setup: > http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/05/01/raid-vs-ssd-vs-fusioni

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Alligood
There are a few things to consider with a relatively busy mysql on SSDs. 1) admins have little control over developers. Developers program what makes sense at the time to get the job done on a deadline. Admins do what makes sense to make those programs run with good performance. Sometimes the

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Sasha Pachev
> 1) admins have little control over developers. Developers program what makes > sense at the > >time to get the job done on a deadline. Admins do what makes > sense to make those >programs run with good performance. Sometimes there are > debates, arguments, etc over what >is "best". On the

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Barry Roberts
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote: > > On the subject of the eternal battle between DBAs and developers. I > have always felt it was a strategic mistake to hire one person to be > MySQL "DBA", and another person to be a MySQL client developer. I > believe this is the root of many

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Leippe
OCZ's Revodrive give a lot more bang/$ than fusion IO IMO. My 240GB card does over 100,000 IOPS (or >700MB/s read/write) and it's less than $500 now. Their newest card doubles that rate (but costs ~$800 for 240GB). As for the alarmism, yes, this was fairly well debunked years ago here: http://www

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Richard Esplin
I don't understand the point of your comment. On Monday October 1 2012 15:55:23 Barry Roberts wrote: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote: > > > > On the subject of the eternal battle between DBAs and developers. I > > have always felt it was a strategic mistake to hire one perso

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Meyers
On 10/1/12 4:31 PM, Richard Esplin wrote: > I don't understand the point of your comment. He's saying that SOX strongly suggests that development and DBA positions be siloed. Steve /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear t

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Barry Roberts
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Steve Meyers wrote: > On 10/1/12 4:31 PM, Richard Esplin wrote: >> I don't understand the point of your comment. > > He's saying that SOX strongly suggests that development and DBA > positions be siloed. > That. If you're a developer with access to production ser

Re: speed up queries with sdd

2012-10-01 Thread Michael Torrie
On 10/01/2012 04:54 PM, Barry Roberts wrote: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Steve Meyers wrote: >> On 10/1/12 4:31 PM, Richard Esplin wrote: >>> I don't understand the point of your comment. >> >> He's saying that SOX strongly suggests that development and DBA >> positions be siloed. >> > > >

New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Matt Melvin
Hey guys, I'm a new member who's currently living in Lehi. I'm excited to find people so close that share my same passion and excitement for Linux. A little about myself... I'm 28 years old, married, and working full time as an Automation Engineer at Champion Technology Services in Millcreek.

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Robert Merrill
Welcome! I'm top-posting and sending in rich text to ensure an [OT] flame war netiquette thread starts shortly hereafter. ...It's the best kind of welcome we know how to give! On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Matt Melvin wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm a new member who's currently living in Lehi. /*

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Stuart Jansen
Ah, but you've failed to consider one of the lesser known corollaries to Godwin's law. On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 20:28 -0600, Robert Merrill wrote: > Welcome! I'm top-posting and sending in rich text to ensure an [OT] flame war > netiquette thread starts shortly hereafter. ...It's the best kind of we

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel Fussell
On 10/01/2012 08:33 PM, Stuart Jansen wrote: > Ah, but you've failed to consider one of the lesser known corollaries to > Godwin's law. > > Godwin was a commie! ;-Daniel Fussell /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the pe

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Joshua Marsh
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Matt Melvin wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm a new member who's currently living in Lehi. I'm excited to find > people so close that share my same passion and excitement for Linux. > Welcome! You'll find plug interesting, entertaining, and demoralizing. Good luck! If y

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Michael Torrie
On 10/01/2012 08:33 PM, Stuart Jansen top-posted something: > Wow, hell has indeed frozen over. It's a new gmail-friendly plug! I'm so happy. Hey do you guys know anything about configuring this fancy new metro thing? /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plu

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Levi Pearson
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Matt Melvin wrote: > > Hey guys, > I'm a new member who's currently living in Lehi. I'm excited to find > people so close that share my same passion and excitement for Linux. > A little about myself... I'm 28 years old, married, and working full time > as an Autom

Re: New member in Lehi

2012-10-01 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Robert Merrill on Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:28:37 MDT: > Welcome! I'm top-posting and sending in rich text to ensure I highly doubt you'll start a flame war, for one, your email client can't even do rich text correctly: X-mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) Content-type: text/plain; charset="u