Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread Eric Wald
On Dec 7, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > One thing that I admit I am struggling with, is the idea of functions not > returning values. Obviously, this isn't a limitation in the language > itself and more a matter of style. But it seems like most of the libs I'm > working with want me hand them a function

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I'm not sure about that. What you're suggesting reminds me way too much of this video :) http://youtu.be/CZmHDEa0Y20 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Todd Millecam wrote: > My best guess as to the cause: it's the never-ending battle between chrome > and firefox. They have been experimenting wi

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread Todd Millecam
My best guess as to the cause: it's the never-ending battle between chrome and firefox. They have been experimenting with every facet of the language to get better market share and one-up each other for the past decade. So, I mean, javascript has had billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread justin
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 5:35 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > It's just a feeder script, so in the end my solution was just to issue > init.d/mydaemon start through cron on an hourly basis. > It's not vital that it run ALL the time just most of the time, and the > daemon will already refuse to let more

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread Joseph Hall
That's just silly. If Javascript was all that, Google would be all over it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AngularJS Oh, wait. That's right. Well, it's not like it has any momentum. http://www.ng-conf.org/ Oh. Right. And look at that hottie on that page! Did you see his beard? On Sat, Dec 7, 2

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Sounds great! One thing that I admit I am struggling with, is the idea of functions not returning values. Obviously, this isn't a limitation in the language itself and more a matter of style. But it seems like most of the libs I'm working with want me hand them a function (pointer?) to call back

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread Grant Shipley
And mobile using titanium. Throw in mongodb and you have full stack Java script... It was hard for me to accept as well since developers as a whole shit on it for the last 15 years. Now it powers Walmart server side and other large companies. In fact, I am writing a book on full stack Java scrip

Re: When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
JavaScript has become an amazing client-side language. There is even server-side stuff in JS. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 5:37 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > I've been working on a sparetime project for a few weeks and had something > mostly coded up in Java, then realized that perhaps I was trying to >

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
It's just a feeder script, so in the end my solution was just to issue init.d/mydaemon start through cron on an hourly basis. It's not vital that it run ALL the time just most of the time, and the daemon will already refuse to let more than 1 run at time. I know it seems like a kludge, but adding

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Joshua Elliott wrote: > I've used monit for something like this before. > It can restart the daemon when it crashes, or when it uses too much > memory/cpu. I've also used this with good results. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on

When did Javascript become a serious language?

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I've been working on a sparetime project for a few weeks and had something mostly coded up in Java, then realized that perhaps I was trying to re-invent the wheel so I googled for a library to do the heavy lifting for me. Imagine my surprise when many of my queries for xyz java library started ret

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Joshua Elliott
I've used monit for something like this before. It can restart the daemon when it crashes, or when it uses too much memory/cpu. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:18 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. > /etc/init

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said "S. Dale Morrey" on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:18:03 -0800: > Is there someway to check if the process is running with cron? I was > thinking I could just do a restart once an hour, but it seems there > should just be a way to check the pid to see if it's running instead > of a full rest

Re: Pro/Cons on Mint vs. Gentoo?

2013-12-07 Thread Eric Wald
On Dec 7, Dan Egli wrote: > So, while I love Gentoo, I hear a lot of people talking about how they love > Mint, and that Mint has the same flexibility as Gentoo, but is easier to > install/configure/update. > > So, I ask those who may have had experience with both to rate your > experience on each.

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 12/7/2013 2:18 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. /etc/init.d/mydeamon start The problem is the daemon can randomly crash and because it's a signed binary I can't just fix the problem and recompile. The thing MUST stay running

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/07/2013 02:18 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. > /etc/init.d/mydeamon start > > The problem is the daemon can randomly crash and because it's a signed > binary I can't just fix the problem and recompile. > > The thing MUST

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-07 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/07/2013 07:30 AM, Olli Ries wrote: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Dan Egli wrote: > >> On December 5, 2013, Michael Torrie wrote: >> > [...] > >>> Mint seems to be gaining in popularity because 1) it doesn't have Unity >> >>> and 2) it gives other desktop environments like LXDE and XFCE

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Olli Ries
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Olli Ries wrote: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:18 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > >> I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. >> /etc/init.d/mydeamon start >> >> The problem is the daemon can randomly crash and because it's a signed >> bin

Re: It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread Olli Ries
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:18 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. > /etc/init.d/mydeamon start > > The problem is the daemon can randomly crash and because it's a signed > binary I can't just fix the problem and recompile. > > The thi

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-07 Thread Olli Ries
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Dan Egli wrote: > On December 5, 2013, Michael Torrie wrote: > [...] > > Mint seems to be gaining in popularity because 1) it doesn't have Unity > > > and 2) it gives other desktop environments like LXDE and XFCE and Mate > > > more first-class attention (KDE used

It's alive! Well sorta.

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I've got a system I'm in charge of that uses a standard init script. i.e. /etc/init.d/mydeamon start The problem is the daemon can randomly crash and because it's a signed binary I can't just fix the problem and recompile. The thing MUST stay running. I was thinking about using a Nagios solution

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Imagine OpenStep but built on gnome and with a built in search box instead of a proper menu. That's pretty much unity. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Dan Egli wrote: > On December 5, 2013, Michael Torrie wrote: > > > Mint isn't less common. It's probably one of the fastest growing > > > dist

Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-07 Thread Dan Egli
On December 5, 2013, Michael Torrie wrote: > Mint isn't less common. It's probably one of the fastest growing > distros in terms of popularity. Well, it's uncommon to me because I don't recall hearing of it before. But then again I have been out of the game for a few years now. > Mint seems

Gentoo goods and bads (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?

2013-12-07 Thread Dan Egli
On December 5, 2013, John D Jones III wrote: > I was afraid you were going to request elaboration here... What do you expect when I already stated that I enjoy Gentoo, and you talk about it's "Attitude" :). > Attitude probably isn't the right term... I used > Gentoo for about a year and I gue

Re: Pro/Cons on Mint vs. Gentoo?

2013-12-07 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I think mint is just ubuntu without the craplets installed. For a gentoo rival you need to look at Arch linux. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Dan Egli wrote: > Hey all, I'm making some plans, and one of the things I was going to do was > to build a home server running Gentoo so I could have

Re: Is Move Networks still alive?

2013-12-07 Thread Dan Egli
On December 5, 2013, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > If anyone on this list used to work for Move, please contact me off the list if > you think you may want a new job for Xmas. :) Does that mean you finally got the funding for your company together? If so, congratulations. Any chance you could forwa

Pro/Cons on Mint vs. Gentoo?

2013-12-07 Thread Dan Egli
Hey all, I'm making some plans, and one of the things I was going to do was to build a home server running Gentoo so I could have the basic setup, and nothing else. And while I've always enjoyed Gentoo, one of the things I have to admit that I don't like is the build time. Binary installs can be se

Re: Is Move Networks still alive?

2013-12-07 Thread Dan Egli
On December 5, 2013, Gabe Gunderson wrote: >> This was a triumph. > I feel like I'm missing some serious context here. That makes two of us. --- Dan On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eric Olsen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Matthew Frederico >wrote: > > > I <3 GladOS. > >