Another ISP thread...

2013-04-16 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
So I got in the mail today notification that rapidwave got bought by Digis. Hm... Last I checked Digis wasn't too compatible with my internet needs (bandwidth slowing, too many people on the same nodes, etc.) So, afconnect is not an option where I am in North American Fork (Near Cedar Hills) W

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-16 Thread Wade Shearer
NO On 16 Apr 2013, at 16:06 , Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > So I got in the mail today notification that rapidwave got bought by > Digis. Hm... Last I checked Digis wasn't too compatible with my > internet needs (bandwidth

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-16 Thread Alan Young
Don't you mean http://nooo.com/ ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Wade Shearer wrote: > NO > > > On 16 Apr 2013, at 16:06 , Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > >> So I got in the mail today notification that rapidwave go

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-16 Thread Ryan Simpkins
On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > So I got in the mail today notification that rapidwave got bought by > Digis. Hm... Last I checked Digis wasn't too compatible with my > internet needs (bandwidth slowing, too many people on the same nodes, etc.) > > So, afconnect is not an

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-16 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
On 4/16/13 4:33 PM, Alan Young wrote: > Don't you mean http://nooo.com/ ? > Yes actually, that is indeed the site I was looking for. Much appreciated. Still in need of ISP though.. :) /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plu

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-17 Thread Lloyd Brown
Did they upgrade you to IPv6 as well? I have to admit that, while I generally have avoided Comcast, their recently improved bandwidth, and their IPv6 offering makes me tempted. My (very technically-minded) boss gets both good bandwidth (don't know exactly what), and IPv6 today at his house in Spr

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 16 Apr 2013, at 17:04, Ryan Simpkins wrote: > You may want to check out CenturyLink's FTTN service. My understanding is that > they have (finally) figured out how to do it right. Though I personally had an > experience with them that made Comcast look deserving of a customer service > award b

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-17 Thread Ryan Simpkins
On Wed, April 17, 2013 08:08, Lloyd Brown wrote: > Did they upgrade you to IPv6 as well? I have to admit that, while I > generally have avoided Comcast, their recently improved bandwidth, and > their IPv6 offering makes me tempted. My (very technically-minded) boss > gets both good bandwidth (don

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-17 Thread Matt Melvin
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > What next? Move to Provo? http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/17/4234258/google-fiber-is-coming-to-provo-utah /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-20 Thread Jacob Albretsen
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 04:33:09 PM Alan Young wrote: > Don't you mean http://nooo.com/ ? I prefer http://www.khaaan.com/ /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-23 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
On 4/16/13 5:04 PM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: > On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > > Recently I've been happy with Comcast. Despite their questionable business > practices, the actual product is quite functional. I just got upgraded last > night and tested a solid 55Mbps down and 1

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-23 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-23 17:59, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > On 4/16/13 5:04 PM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: >> On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >> >> Recently I've been happy with Comcast. Despite their questionable business >> practices, the actual product is quite functional. I just got upgrad

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-23 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/23/2013 6:44 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-23 17:59, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >> On 4/16/13 5:04 PM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: >>> On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >>> >>> Recently I've been happy with Comcast. Despite their questionable business >>> practices, the actual produ

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-23 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-23 19:18, Tod Hansmann wrote: > The static IPs > work as you expect. This is in contrast to their business fiber, which > can be a bit wonky (you get a /30 that you don't pay for as a > "management" subnet and your /29 or whatever is routed to your > management IP. Odd, but it works g

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-23 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/23/2013 9:32 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-23 19:18, Tod Hansmann wrote: > > The static IPs >> work as you expect. This is in contrast to their business fiber, which >> can be a bit wonky (you get a /30 that you don't pay for as a >> "management" subnet and your /29 or whatever is routed to

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-24 00:15, Tod Hansmann wrote: > On 4/23/2013 9:32 PM, Jima wrote: >> On 2013-04-23 19:18, Tod Hansmann wrote: >>> The static IPs >>> work as you expect. This is in contrast to their business fiber, which >>> can be a bit wonky (you get a /30 that you don't pay for as a >>> "manageme

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
On 4/23/13 6:44 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-23 17:59, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >> On 4/16/13 5:04 PM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: >>> On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >>> >With Comcast? Last I checked (a few years ago, in Minnesota), that > would require a business-class accoun

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Steve Meyers
On 4/24/13 6:44 AM, Jima wrote: >You do need the /30 for a couple of those, actually. There are ways > around the others (like a transparent bridging firewall). > >With IPv6, the point-to-point subnet is actually MORE important, not > less. Have you ever dealt with an on-link /48? It's c

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: > This is in contrast to their business fiber, which > can be a bit wonky (you get a /30 that you don't pay for as a > "management" subnet and your /29 or whatever is routed to your > management IP. Odd, but it works great thus far.) This sty

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Jacob Albretsen
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 06:44:25 PM Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-23 17:59, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > > On 4/16/13 5:04 PM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: > >> On Tue, April 16, 2013 16:06, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > >> > >> Recently I've been happy with Comcast. Despite their questionable > >> business > >>

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-24 08:27, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: > Hm, for me I don't host anything, but I do occasionally connect from the > outside with ssh and/or vnc. So even if my ip address isn't static, I > need to be able to forward ports in. I'm not sure even that'll work > though with Comcast residential.

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-24 11:25, Jacob Albretsen wrote: > Do they play stupid pricing games with their business class? First 6 - 12 > month is one price, then it doubles the next 12 months and you have to do a 2 > year contract kind of garbage? It's been a little while, but I don't remember the price games

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/24/2013 8:41 AM, Steve Meyers wrote: > On 4/24/13 6:44 AM, Jima wrote: >> You do need the /30 for a couple of those, actually. There are ways >> around the others (like a transparent bridging firewall). >> >> With IPv6, the point-to-point subnet is actually MORE important, not >> les

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-24 18:41, Tod Hansmann wrote: > I can say with certainty, sleep or no, that my 27/7 is much nicer than my 7/.8 Funny, that's kind of how I feel about my 100/100. :-) Jima /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don'

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-24 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/24/2013 7:18 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-24 18:41, Tod Hansmann wrote: >> I can say with certainty, sleep or no, that my 27/7 is much nicer than my >> 7/.8 >Funny, that's kind of how I feel about my 100/100. :-) > > I can also say with certainty that I don't like Jima right now =cP

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-25 Thread Corey Edwards
On 04/24/2013 06:41 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: > > On 4/24/2013 8:41 AM, Steve Meyers wrote: >> On 4/24/13 6:44 AM, Jima wrote: >>> You do need the /30 for a couple of those, actually. There are ways >>> around the others (like a transparent bridging firewall). >>> >>> With IPv6, the point-t

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-26 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
On 4/25/13 1:46 PM, Robert Fleming wrote: > > The limitation you will have is that you won't get huge uplink unless > you go with business class. They keep that pretty low. How fast is "huge"? My current uplink really isn't that great anyway. What is expected on CC? -D /* PLUG: http://plug.

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-26 Thread Jima
I agree with most of Corey's outline. Just to throw a few minor points in... On 2013-04-25 14:53, Corey Edwards wrote: > On 04/24/2013 06:41 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: >> Having not slept since Monday night, all of this is making less and less >> sense as we go. I may well need a diagram to clea

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-27 Thread Dan Egli
*at 6:48am on 4/24/2013, Jima wrote:* * * *> Funny, that's kind of how I feel about my 100/100. :-)* * * *Yea, a full 100mbs up and down would be nice, no doubt. Too bad most of us don't have that ability.* * * *--- Dan* /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http:/

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-27 Thread Dan Egli
*At 6:48 AM, Todd Hansmann wrote:* * * *>>> Do you have static ip addresses with Comcast? Did you have to* *>>> pay extra?* *>> With Comcast? Last I checked (a few years ago, in Minnesota), that* *>> would require a business-class account, which is more expensive per* *>> month for less bandw

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-27 Thread Dan Egli
*At 2:23am on 4/26/2013, Corey Edwards wrote:* * * * * *> You're on the right track. Maybe I can get you the rest of the way there. * * * *That's interesting. I seem to recall things like that when I worked for the (now defunct) C4 communications. This brings a question to my mind. In each sce

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-27 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-27 03:57, Dan Egli wrote: > *A 27/7 line? I didn't know Comcast offered such a beast. I'm also > surprised Comcast is offering static IPs at all. Last I looked, which was > admittedly quite a long time ago (many years) Comcast didn't offer static > IP at all. The best you could get was a

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-29 Thread Nicholas Leippe
With fully routable ip addresses you have no need for NAT on your router in the case you mention. The ISP would simply route all traffic destined for any address in your block to your router, and you simply configure your router's routing table and you're done. The linux-based router distros are us

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-29 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-29 12:53, Nicholas Leippe wrote: > With fully routable ip addresses you have no need for NAT on your router in > the case you mention. If you have enough IP addresses, which for many American households, is not a viable approach. Additionally, this approach is (in general) bad for

Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Egli
*On April 28, 2013, Jima wrote: * * * *> When I used Comcast for internet, my IP rarely changed. Actually,* *> thinking back, I'm not sure it changed i the year we had it. I'd have* *> to check my dynamic DNS logs to be certain, though.* * * *Well, that's what their web page said all those ye

Re: Re: Another ISP thread...

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Fleming
On 4/24/2013 5:31 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-04-24 08:27, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: >> Hm, for me I don't host anything, but I do occasionally connect from the >> outside with ssh and/or vnc. So even if my ip address isn't static, I >> need to be able to forward ports in. I'm not sure even that'll