Re: new thread: QoS, latency, bandwidth and the FCC/net neutrality debate

2017-11-24 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
They are very related Network QoS exists because there are limits in how much networking gear transmits packets and frames. There is a lot more to it than just writing the policy. There is a cost to engineer that out. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrot

Re: new thread: QoS, latency, bandwidth and the FCC/net neutrality debate

2017-11-24 Thread Stephen Partington
It is not that simple in my mind. Network QoS is very different then the possibility of the customers pay extra for additional services. Besides Netflix has cache devices that can and are frequently in local is Datacenters to alleviate latency and Bw issues. And given the current fcc chairs attit

Re: new thread: QoS, latency, bandwidth and the FCC/net neutrality debate

2017-11-24 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
I will start with some thoughts on why I find the NN debate troubling. First there is a technical misunderstanding. NN is built on the idea that ISPs should treat all traffic equally. This concept is simply unrealistic. Bandwidth is a limited resource there is only so much data that a Ethernet port

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Eric Oyen
per your suggestion, I have started a new thread with questions related to the mentioned issues. debate away! -eric from the central offices of the technomage Guild, internet debating society. On Nov 24, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > I work in the networking field and I ca

new thread: QoS, latency, bandwidth and the FCC/net neutrality debate

2017-11-24 Thread Eric Oyen
well, as someone else suggested, a new thread. so, shall we start the discussion? ok, as mentioned, bandwidth is a limited resource. the question is How limited? Then there is the question: can an ISP curtail certain types of traffic (null route it, delay it, other bandwidth shaping routines)?

Re: Why does ps -ef show four entries for chrome? Thanks!

2017-11-24 Thread joe
Thanks for those explanations, James! ps -efH is a very helpful tip! > Chrome runs each tab in a seperate process, and the same for plugins, > though sometimes those are shared. If you run ps -ef instead of top and > get the parent processid, they'd likely share a common parent. You c

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
I work in the networking field and I can tell you that the idea that all traffic can be treated equally is nonsense. If you want services esp latency sensitive ones like voice and video to be delivered reliably then there will be traffic shaping. Bandwidth is a limited resource. p.s. do not wa

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Eric Oyen
h. well, I wasn't going to mention these alternative methods owing to their precarious legal nature. btw, ISp's are starting to take a hard line on things like pirating. I have 1 neighbor who will no longer be able to get internet from any provider here in my neighborhood. Basically, he was

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Eric Oyen
already done. there is even a change.org petition. I have also filed comments on their comments page. believe me, I tried to keep it dry, technical and logical. however, these are politicians we are dealing with here. -eric from the central offices of the technomage Guild, Internet Regulatory A

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Michael Butash
If you've ever worked in networking at a carrier or isp level, you know net neutrality never really was to begin with. From the beginnings of time, there's been a feature called "quality of service" that makes sure some traffic is always more important than other traffics, so this has always been

Re: kodi tvaddons

2017-11-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:50:33 -0700 Eric Oyen wrote: > well, > the media cartels can go pound sand as far as I am concerned. I can > get most of the content I want from Amazon, netflix, hulu (if I could > ever get around the accessibility issues) or even youtube tv. You'd better hurry up and giv