Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Hi, As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's VirtualBox for web development testing. VirtualBox is a mess. I cannot get it to work for PHP testing. It will either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it visible to my local net and I am not able to pull

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Austin Godber via PLUG-discuss
Since you're use case is mostly to support your development workflow, you might look at Vagrant: https://developer.hashicorp.com/vagrant/tutorials/getting-started/getting-started-install It sits on top of VirtualBox and makes setup and teardown of dev environments fairly trivial. Well, trivial a

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem. When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let DHCP give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the route to the internet. What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet,

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread JD Austin via PLUG-discuss
I was going to reply the same. Set the network to bridged instead of nat, which the default. On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:20 AM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem. > When I set up my virtual mach

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Thanks Bob!! - I am running VB 7.0 - I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that means DHCP. - There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network manger. - Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network is set to nat. - ip is 10.

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
On 2022-11-15 10:49, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Thanks Bob!! - I am running VB 7.0 - I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that means DHCP. - There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network manger. - Guest network: click on guest : right mous

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
On 2022-11-15 10:40, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: I was going to reply the same. Set the network to bridged instead of nat, which the default. NAT give me access to the internet, however I cannot reach from my local net. Bridged gives me access on my network, however I do not have acces

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Thanks Austin!! I think you might have made this suggestion to me in the past. My ultimate goal is to pull together some cash and upgrade my hardware. All my stuff is getting old. I'd like to build a Proxmox server. I just want to us VB in the interim which might be a year or two If

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
I've not used vbox under ubuntu in a while, and use it literally all day every day, and honestly in the 10+ years I've used virtualbox, I've never found it complicated or broken, so I suspect some pebkac here. Under ubuntu or arch that I use with vbox, it should create at least a Nat network and a

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss
Huh.  Well, sorry for coming late to the party, but I teach CIS126DL at GatewayCC, and speaking as a user (NOT as a representative of Gateway!!!), I say: The students must install CentOS, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE on 'a machine'.  they can use a real machine, or they can use VirtualBox or VMWare. 

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 15 Nov 2022 07:42:22 -0700 >Hi, [snip] >VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology. I've said >it before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult. Not only true, but in many cases needlessly entangled. By the way, I'll

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 15 Nov 2022 07:42:22 -0700 [snip] >VirtualBox is a mess. [snip] >My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create a >guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want to >have it have an IP on my local private net

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-15 Thread David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss
I use VirtualBox on my Mac to allow me to use Delphi, a Windows-specific tool. Perhaps Crossover for Mac would work, but Delphi depends on a whole mess of Windows dependencies it has accumulated over the years, including .NET frameworks and some other crap. So it’s easier to just install Windows

Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I appreciate all your feedback Steve. VirtualBox was supposed to be an interim step until I could afford a Proxmox machine. I think I will put Proxmox on the computer that was running Windows and died. I need to test the hardware... I think Windows got corrupted and the hardware is fine. I