Re: SLUG

Am 01. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Dazed_75 so: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, keith smith wrote: Why fragment from PLUG? I don't know what you are asking. Some of us attend PLUG functions as well. I work most PLUG Installfests and attend more East side meetings than not. But living in Apach

Re: SLUG

Am 01. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Lyle Tuttle so: At 11:40 AM 4/1/2009, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, keith smith <klsmith2...@yahoo.com> wrote: Why fragment from PLUG? Keith Smith I don't know what you are asking. Some of us

OT: [sorta] "Vowing to Prevent 'Cyber Katrina,' Senators Propose Cyber Czar"

As far as I know, this: "Vowing to Prevent 'Cyber Katrina,' Senators Propose Cyber Czar" http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/vowing-to-preve.html is (was) not an April fool's joke. One thing that does seem a little suspicious (beware), is that among the many "cross-references" to other item

Re: Web Server Issues Centos

On my other server and also from searching the web, apache should not have problems with opening the files in my home directories. I went ahead and did a "chown -R apache:apache pub_html" and still having the same issue. Gilbert - Original Message - From: Judd Pickell To: Main PLUG d

Re: Web Server Issues Centos

I cannot find sites_enabled. I have a couple different domains with several different people accessing and uploading files to them. If it was just a single domain, I would just put everything in /var/www/html and /var/www/cgi-bin which are the defaults for Centos. Gilbert - Original Mess

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of > adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6 > seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am agenst speed limits and > believe it should be safe and prudent a

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:24 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > > I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of > > adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6 > > seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am ag

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Craig White wrote: If speed were the only issue, let's just lower the speed limits everywhere and people will be much safer. I am quite certain that if the speed limit on the 101 was 45 mp/h, there would hardly be any fatalities. Aside from road-rage shootings..

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:24 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > Photo radar saves lives. Period. So does driving responsibly... and, you know, paying attention. > According to the Arizona State Department of Public Safety, because of photo > radar, crashes are down by 12%, injuries have been cut by 17%

Re: OT: Speed Cams

link to those statistics? On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Josef Lowder wrote: > On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > > I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of > > adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or > 6 > > seconds. As for the

Re: decent non-embeded firewall

smoothwall actually has a package set that layers of an existing installation, in addition to their real product which is the stand alone firewall. It is essentially the tool set that makes smoothwall (on top of the OS hardening). I tried getting it to run on slackware at one time, but had limited

Re: decent non-embeded firewall (my worthless 2 cents)

"Though I suppose since my TV died I don't need a box hooked to my TV until I replace it anyway ;)" And this is a reason/excuse to use t for your firewall, then get a new one with your TV... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.pho

Re: OT: Speed Cams

I have to concur with the other critics of speed cameras. Any statistical data generated by the DPS should be carefully examined and verified before making conclusive statements. I do agree speed does play a role in severity of accidents and it should be considered a factor in decreased time f

Re: SLUG

Fragment from PLUG... well i cant imagine the volume of traffic that would ensue if all the metro phx LUG's pooled into one store... and besides it might be as simple as group of geeks said hay lets "blah" and a LUG was formed... so not fragmented from but kind of coughed up unrelated. and there

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On 4/2/09, Eric Cope wrote: > link to those statistics? http://photoenforcement.azdps.gov/Questions/ A comprehensive statistical analysis was recently conducted by the Arizona State University for the Arizona Department of Transportation (ADOT) and the Arizona Department of Public Safety (DPS) f

Re: Web Server Issues Centos

I had al sorts of issues getting a centos web server to play nice (still having an issue with ocsinventory) but i used this as a guideline and it came up beautifully http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-centos-5.2 it is intended for a specific purpose, but it gives some very handy information

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Personally to me the fact whether or not speed cameras save lives is irrelevant. The #1 reason the speed cameras were installed was due to the money they would bring in, not for our safety. Yet when people complain about them, they try to play the safety card instead of just admitting they a

Multidimensional indexing in MySQL

I am looking for a way to create multidimensional indexes in MySQL but can't seem to find it. Perhaps I am looking for the wrong name, I believe they are called OLAP Hypercube, but it has been a while since that DB class. It is simple in DB2 and I remember doing them in Oracle, so I make the assu

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Did you read the report? Statements like "not statistically relavant" don't speak well for the study. Statistical variations of 20% speak for the poor (very noisy) data, at least in my opinion (receiving a PhD degree in statistical signal processing for what its worth). Those results should be take

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:55 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > There is no sensible basis for opposing photo radar speed limit enforcement. Give me a break... if the people don't want it, and the government is supposed to work for the people, that is a sensible basis. > Opposition to photo radar is tan

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I don't believe that they were put in place only for the money. The company that built the cameras is not getting a cut of the profits. They are getting paid according to a contract that they've signed with the government. If no revenue was generated from ticket

Re: Multidimensional indexing in MySQL

On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: I am looking for a way to create multidimensional indexes in MySQL but can't seem to find it. Perhaps I am looking for the wrong name, I believe they are called OLAP Hypercube, but it has been a while since that DB class. It is simple in DB

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 14:57 -0400, Dorian A. Monroe, II wrote: > It's my opinion that the people that are against cameras have a > disregard for the lives of others. Wow... that is quite the opinion then. I'm sorry you're so willing to sell people short before even getting their side of things. I

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Am 02. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Josef Lowder so: On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6 seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am agenst speed limits and

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Don't forget that the current implementation of the speed cams are not just still-frame cameras that snap a picture if you trigger them, they are HD live-feed video cameras as well. If there were enough of them spread about, your movements could easily be tracked by noting what time you left yo

Re: SLUG

Am 02. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Stephen so: moin moin, As fro events i figure most anyone can create an event, not just the "official" plug maintainers. Just find a place time and purpose then invite people and see what happens :-) Yup. PLUG certainly doesn't have a monopoly. Even within PLUG all

Re: OT: Speed Cams

quoting, *There is no dollar amount that can be set for the value of a life. * That's an interesting topic. To save some one's life from, let say, traffic collisions, costs $1,000,000, but we can save 10 burn victim's lives for $100,000, then, not only can we put a price on human life, we can put

Re: OT: Speed Cams

clip, clip There are many arguments for and against the speed cameras, like the right to face your accuser in court. If you've had your picture taken by one of these cameras, you were breaking a law. So, you're telling me that both my speedometer and my GPS (both reading the same MPH, and bo

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On 4/2/09, Joshua A. Andler wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:55 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > > There is no sensible basis for opposing photo radar speed limit > enforcement. > > Give me a break... if the people don't want it, and the government is > supposed to work for the people, that is a s

Re: OT: Speed Cams

Please stop this thread. Yes, it is appropriately marked "OT" for off-topic. Yes, many on this list enjoy law/politics/ethics/etc. discussions. However, every time in recent history that we have had an off topic thread go to long, people leave this list and the group. I know several high-caliber

Re: OT: Speed Cams

No offense but you are missing the most important point here. I don't believe anyone is against enforcement of laws. But the fact remains that cameras will not stop anyone from driving like a maniac. Is a matter of fact the cameras appear (no study provided) to reduce the law enforcement presenc

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 12:58 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > On 4/2/09, Joshua A. Andler wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:55 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > > > There is no sensible basis for opposing photo radar speed limit > > enforcement. > > > > Give me a break... if the people don't want it, an

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: Take it off list please. +1 PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to cha

Re: OT: Speed Cams

+1 I think this would have been a nice discussion for meatspace with some snacks and maybe couple of beers. :-) On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Alex Dean wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > >> >> Take it off list please. > > +1 > -

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 12:54 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > clip, clip > > > There are many arguments for and against the speed cameras, like > > the > > right to face your accuser in court. If you've had your picture > > taken > > by one of these cameras, you were breaking a law. > > So, you're t

free install yesterday

moin moin, Red Seven was offering free installs of GNU/Linux yesterday. We missed it. I think they did the same thing last year, so this is your 364 day warning for next year :). http://www.evliving.com/2009/03/30/4910/redseven-free-linux-install/ ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

Anyone have any ideas? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > Hello all, > I am running a FreeBSD 7 server at home. I recently filled up the /usr > partition. I cleaned it out, but now I can't connect with my OpenVPN client > nor via Samba. I can connect via SSH. The logs look normal

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

Maybe try Phoenix BUG? http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Eric Cope wrote: Anyone have any ideas? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Eric Cope wrote: Hello all, I am running a FreeBSD 7 server at home. I recently filled up the / usr partition. I cleaned it out, but now I can

RE: OT: Speed Cams

Cool, where can I get a copy of this report? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Josef Lowder Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:25 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Speed

RE: OT: Speed Cams

True, or simply require auto manufactures to put limiters as factory standard equipment making it imposable for any car to ever drive above 75mph. The fact is it is not about safety, if it was points would be used and repeat offenders would have their licenses revoked. -Original Message-

RE: OT: Speed Cams

I've seen six, all on the I-10 within a few months of install; but people seem calmer now. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joshua A. Andler Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:53 AM To:

RE: OT: Speed Cams

Of course, if we outlawed cars entirely we would never have auto accidents... And their would be no need to spend all that money on understructure, of course our society based on specialization and cheep transport would also collapse, but hey, they numbers look great ;) Their is a certain amount

RE: OT: Speed Cams

Just for those who may not know, a Squid is a motorcyclist who weaves in and out of traffic http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid _ From: Bryan O'Neal [mailto:bon...@cornerstonehome.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:19 PM To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE

RE: OT: Speed Cams

>> Opposition to photo radar is tantamount to advocating legalization of >> murder and/or manslaughter in any form by any means. >Wow... that is probably the most absurd oversimplification I've seen on this list so >far. Murder and Manslaughter have very different definitions and legal implicati

RE: OT: Speed Cams

I believe their contract gives them a base amount plus an amount variable with the number and severity of the tickets generated. In turn they assume all liability for installment and maintenance of the cameras (save graffiti and other vandalism that does not require technical repair to resume opera

RE: Multidimensional indexing in MySQL

I bow to your superior search skills. Not natively supported is the answer I will have to deal with. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alex Dean Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:10 P

Re: free install yesterday

hehe i just did my own at home then, set up and install opensuse 11.1 on my desktop Got video and sound on my X-Fi Fatality (couldn't get it to compile on Ubuntu) Still mucking with wine fro a couple of the things i still have windows for. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM, der.hans wrote: > moin

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

I have no idea... My last run in with BSD proved its different enough of a beastie to leave me stumped on some things, just like this one. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Alex Dean wrote: > Maybe try Phoenix BUG? > > http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ > > On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > >>

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

I tried registering for the BUG, but as it turns out, I am already a member, so I guess it isn't as active as PLUG... Eric On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Alex Dean wrote: > Maybe try Phoenix BUG? > > http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ > > > On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > > Anyone have a

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

either that or they all use UUCP to communicate for the "nostalgia" of it... Disclaimer - And yes its a generalization, but of all the Unix geeks i know all of them are likley to do something just like that, besides its funny On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > I tried registering

RE: free install yesterday

I will add this to the scheduled reminders on the new Drupal 6.10 system, once we get port 81 open from Duru, so I can develop in place and swap over when ready (our add-ons and database are not compatible for an upgrade to 6 +, so I must repopulate)? Obnosis | (503)754-4452 PLUG Linux Sec

more ATI/AMD vid specs

moin moin, AMD released some more video card specs the other day. It's great to see them continue meet their commitments to Free Software. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE3Nw ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # "It is a

Re: more ATI/AMD vid specs

I just wish they would flesh out their Linux support of their ATI graphics hardware On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > AMD released some more video card specs the other day. It's great to see > them continue meet their commitments to Free Software. > > http://www.pho

Re: more ATI/AMD vid specs

Am 02. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Stephen so: I just wish they would flesh out their Linux support of their ATI graphics hardware That's what they're working on. Well, s/Linux/Free Software/ since the *BSDs can also take advantage of the specs. Following a link from the original article, we see that

GPL Accounting software

Just thought I would make list aware of a GPL accounting package that I am implementing for a client. webERP http://www.weberp.org I have imported virtually everything from his existing software as a test...customers, inventory, pricing, vendors, purchase orders, purchase order line items, sales

Re: OT: Speed Cams

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > Please stop this thread.  Yes, it is appropriately marked "OT" for > off-topic.  Yes, many on this list enjoy law/politics/ethics/etc. > discussions.  However, every time in recent history that we have had > an off topic thread go to long, peopl

router opinions wanted

Total noob wrt networks. I'm about to dive into setting up a home LAN and could use some opinions/advise/warnings/ideas about routers. Not sure yet whether the LAN will be wireless or not. Any routers to look for? Any to avoid? Is it possible to disable a wireless router's transmitter and use it

RE: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

I have not used BSD in a while, so I may be speaking out of turn here, but have you tried clearing the arp cache forcing it to create a new entry to look up? -- *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.u

RE: GPL Accounting software

I was looking at Web ERP However it did not make my top five. Do you have a comparison to say Compiere, OpenERP, Opentaps, or more specific to accounting Postbooks from Xtuple or OpenBravo? I would love to know why you choose Open ERP and if I should revisit it. After all resarching on the web an

RE: GPL Accounting software

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 15:56 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > I was looking at Web ERP However it did not make my top five. Do you > have a comparison to say Compiere, OpenERP, Opentaps, or more specific > to accounting Postbooks from Xtuple or OpenBravo? I would love to > know why you choose Open ERP

RE: router opinions wanted

Ok, I'll kick this discussion off, but there are better people then I to take advice from on this. If you have a spare computer with at least two nic cards there are a number of weird firewall router projects out their. Most of the weird appliances are "Ok" but not great (unless you are getting a

RE: GPL Accounting software

If nothing else thanks for the Web ERP mention. It's not like I posted my research to spur discussion (bad community member). Truth is there are tons of good open source ticketing/project management/CRM/Accounting/ and even ERP software out their! I am quite excited. -Original Message- F

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

please excuse my ignorance, but how do you do that? Is it forced every reboot? I have rebooted several times. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > I have not used BSD in a while, so I may be speaking out of turn here, > but have you tried clearing the arp cache forcing it to cre

RE: GPL Accounting software

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 16:32 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > If nothing else thanks for the Web ERP mention. It's not like I > posted my research to spur discussion (bad community member). Truth is > there are tons of good open source ticketing/project > management/CRM/Accounting/ and even ERP softwar

Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

I have been debating recently whether to pick up a cheapish networked external hard drive like a Western Digital My Book (that one initially because it can be picked up locally, although initially googling suggests it might not be very Linux friendly). Anyone have any experience working with any

Re: router opinions wanted

ck out Netgear I've had good luck with them... On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > Total noob wrt networks. I'm about to dive into setting up a home LAN > and could use some opinions/advise/warnings/ideas about routers. Not > sure yet whether the LAN will be wireless or not.

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 19:46 -0400, stevenss...@cox.net wrote: > I have been debating recently whether to pick up a cheapish networked > external hard drive like a Western Digital My Book (that one initially > because it can be picked up locally, although initially googling suggests it > might no

Re: FreeBSD OpenVPN and SMB Connection Issues

To be honest I am not sure how to do this on BSD either. However some quick Googleing found something for you to try. arp -d 216.9.190.124 (to "drop" the entry, then ping to reestablish) or arp -s 216.9.190.124 MA:Cx:xx::xx:xx ( where the second argument is the mac address of the device in que

Fwd: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

Great discount for OSCON! Alan -- Forwarded message -- From: Marsee Henon Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:16 PM Subject: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON) To: ala...@consultpros.com Hi-- OSCON Registration is open. Here's a discount you can pass along to

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM, wrote: > I have been debating recently whether to pick up a cheapish networked > external hard drive like a Western Digital My Book (that one initially > because it can be picked up locally, although initially googling suggests it > might not be very Linux frien

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

Alan Dayley wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM, wrote: > >> I have been debating recently whether to pick up a cheapish networked >> external hard drive like a Western Digital My Book (that one initially >> because it can be picked up locally, although initially googling suggests it >>

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Steven wrote: > Ah! Good to hear someone having success. Did you do the initial setup > from Windows? Is that necessary? I think the main concern I had after > the initial googling for reviews was that when I grabbed a copy of the > manual off the WD web site it im

RE: router opinions wanted

If you are going to be under siege, you can run a Linux firewall box with 3 interfaces directly from your cable box, we are doing a presentation/lab at HackFest the 2nd Saturday (next weekend) at UAT.edu. It will give you vpn, pptp, whatever you want? And you can populate it with 1000G netwo