OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread joe
Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? Qwest has just raised their rates and I think some of the charges are unreasonable, particularly for voice mail and the portion of the DSL service that goes to M$ (which is the most irritating since I don't use M

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread joe
If you have a cell phone, consider dropping the land line phone service entirely. I have Qwest DSL, with no phone service. If you think you need a phone line for fax, reconsider your faxing needs. Try life without fax. When you need to send a fax, there are services that will likely cost

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Daniel Stasinski
Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? I'm using Cox for internet. On top of that I use SkypeIn/SkypeOut for my phone service which runs $60 a year total. To keep it simple, I only give out my Google Voice number. I use efax.com for faxes. Near the end

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Eric Cope
j...@actionline.com wrote: Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? Qwest has just raised their rates and I think some of the charges are unreasonable, particularly for voice mail and the portion of the DSL service that goes to M$ (which is the most

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread AZ Pete
. Peter j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com wrote: Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? Qwest has just raised their rates and I think some of the charges are unreasonable, particularly for voice mail

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread joe
faxzero.com What fax service does he use? I've searched for a fax service like that, but have never found one. Thanks, --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Stephen
I use a combination of Google voice and my cell, i do have a landline as well so i can avoid the cost of a teenager with a cellphone and i use my land-line via Cox, and for the price its very cheap. There are also a number of voice mail services and similar packages. they can take several lines

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-23 Thread Charles Jones
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.comwrote: she might also consider cox biz services. they tend to be reliable and stable (according to DSLreports). Yeah that's what she wanted at first (Cox), but they told her that the building was not wired and she would

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-23 Thread Stephen
Thats why it was only 12k to have it done. if further would have been more. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: she might also consider cox biz services. they tend

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Jones
I have Cox residential service, and my fiancee uses Qwest DSL at her business. I have never had any real issue from my Cox connection, but her DSL is terrible in various ways. * Modem always starts out at full provisioned rate and throughout the day gets slower and slower (according to the web

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-15 Thread keith smith
irritating to have my connection reset multiple times a day. Thanks for your feedback! Keith Smith --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: From: Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org Subject: Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-15 Thread Eric Shubert
I haven't seen a Cisco DSL modem in the field for several years. I was told that they were replacing them with ActionTec (1500?) units at the time, which I'm guessing was maybe 5 years ago. I wouldn't stand for that level of service. There's a good chance that Ken's right. I'd stay

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-15 Thread Eric Shubert
Technomage wrote: Charles Jones wrote: I have Cox residential service, and my fiancee uses Qwest DSL at her business. I have never had any real issue from my Cox connection, but her DSL is terrible in various ways. * Modem always starts out at full provisioned rate and throughout the day

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-14 Thread Bill Lindley
I have had Qwest DSL for almost ten years and have had excellent service and little down-time. DSL gives you low latency and a dedicated connection... if you have 7Mbps service, it's not shared with the kid down the street and his torrent server

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-14 Thread keith smith
Thanks!! That is a vote of confidence!! Keith Smith --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com wrote: From: Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com Subject: Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-11 Thread keith smith
how much longer it will take after that. I was told they are putting a rush on this project. I work out of my house and would like to find an additional solution. I like Cox. I've had cox service for maybe 6 years now. I had been with Qwest and had DSL for a while. Liked them also. I'm

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-11 Thread Stephen
it will take after that.  I was told they are putting a rush on this project. I work out of my house and would like to find an additional solution. I like Cox.  I've had cox service for maybe 6 years now.  I had been with Qwest and had DSL for a while.  Liked them also. I'm thinking

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-11 Thread Eric Shubert
the permit to do so. It is unclear how much longer it will take after that. I was told they are putting a rush on this project. I work out of my house and would like to find an additional solution. I like Cox. I've had cox service for maybe 6 years now. I had been with Qwest and had DSL

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-11 Thread Shawn Badger
a rush on this project. I work out of my house and would like to find an additional solution. I like Cox. I've had cox service for maybe 6 years now. I had been with Qwest and had DSL for a while. Liked them also. I'm thinking that maybe I'll try qwest or look at that as a backup plan. I'm

Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-11 Thread keith smith
can share the connection. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Shawn Badger badger.sh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shawn Badger badger.sh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday

Re: DSL Speed

2009-10-15 Thread Bill Jonas
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 06:25:37AM -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: Here's what I don't understand. If the site is capable of serving files at 700 kbps, why wasn't I always getting them at that rate? Surely, I thought, 80 kbps fits int 1.3 mbps with so much headroom that I won't see any

Re: DSL Speed

2009-10-15 Thread Chris Gehlker
On Oct 15, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bill Jonas wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 06:25:37AM -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: Here's what I don't understand. If the site is capable of serving files at 700 kbps, why wasn't I always getting them at that rate? Surely, I thought, 80 kbps fits int 1.3 mbps with

DSL Speed

2009-10-13 Thread Chris Gehlker
Recently I upgraded my DSL service from a nominal 1.5 mbps to a nominal 7 mbps. Internet speed test sites mostly agree that my actual speed went from about 1.3 mbps to about 6 mbps. This conformed to my expectations. Something happened that I didn't expect at all and I'm at a loss

DSL

2009-07-27 Thread mike havens
I have a guy who wants me to rerun his DSL lines (his neighbor is putting in a pool and it got cut. WHat is the deal with DSL; does it run on the bumble bee pair (black and yellow)? Is there a secret or something special about it? Does it just run on a differant frequency on the christmas tree

Re: DSL

2009-07-27 Thread JD Austin
://www.twingeckos.com Jonathan Swifthttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html - May you live every day of your life. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a guy who wants me to rerun his DSL lines (his neighbor is putting in a pool and it got cut

Re: DSL

2009-07-27 Thread mike havens
/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html - May you live every day of your life. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a guy who wants me to rerun his DSL lines (his neighbor is putting in a pool and it got cut. WHat is the deal with DSL; does it run on the bumble bee

RE: HackFest: Linux Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/RouterMarketing Myths - April 11, 2009

2009-04-05 Thread Lisa Kachold
: HackFest: Linux Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/RouterMarketing Myths - April 11, 2009 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:51:19 -0700 Why yes, I fit one of those qualifications for line item 6. I would love to view the net cast when can I expect the details so I can put it on my

HackFest: Linux Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/Router Marketing Myths - April 11, 2009

2009-04-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
April HackFest: Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/Router Marketing Myths Join us at UAT.edu 2625 W. BASELINE RD., TEMPE, AZ 85283-1056 | Noon until 3PM (or whenever we all wander off) for a lab session centered around cable/DSL security and Linux box

RE: HackFest: Linux Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/RouterMarketing Myths - April 11, 2009

2009-04-04 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Kachold Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:55 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: HackFest: Linux Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/RouterMarketing Myths - April 11, 2009 April HackFest: Firewall ISO's or Debunking Cable/DSL Modem/Router Marketing Myths Join us at UAT.edu

RE: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-19 Thread Bob Elzer
To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service? I remember that I went through a DSL modem every year due to bad lines in my area. I had a static IP and it would just drop connection randomly when the modem was going bad. If I had a non-static IP it would

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-19 Thread JD Austin
I got rid or Qwest a year ago for exactly that reason. They'd fix my phone lines then DSL would break then they'd fix DSL and mess up the phone line. Sometimes they'd fix the line they came to fix but then break my home phone line. Finally I just got tired of dealing with them and dropped DSL

RE: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-19 Thread Bob Elzer
-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of JD Austin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:32 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service? I got rid or Qwest a year ago for exactly that reason. They'd fix my phone lines then DSL would break

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-19 Thread Stephen
...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of JD Austin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:32 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service? I got rid or Qwest a year ago for exactly that reason. They'd fix my phone lines then DSL would break then they'd

anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones
If so, do you have the same crazy DHCP lease schedule that I'm experiencing at a particular site? I don't know what the exact lease time is, except that at least every 15 minutes I get a new IP. It is really annoying as when I ssh into a server that is behind this link, I have a very short

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread James Finstrom
I would be curious if your relative capacity is too high or if your dropping sync. Unfortunately with qwest you cant go in to the backend where all the cool toys are but my gusee if you call them you will see it is a service or sync issue. James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp.

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones
I have actually gotten into the MDC page before and could see all the settings, including that there are indeed periodic retrains, but maybe once a day, not every 5-15mins like I am exeriencing. If not for ddns daemon I wouldn't even be able to connect to the thing remotely at all. Maybe it's

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Stephen
Except the load on their dhcp server would be ridiculous for poke at more money On 2/18/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: I have actually gotten into the MDC page before and could see all the settings, including that there are indeed periodic retrains, but maybe once a

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread JD Austin
I used to have it. I think there is a 'keep alive' option in the settings on the 2wire modem (I had an actiontec modem). If not have the box you're sshing into ping google every minute or two (ping -c 20 google.com) via a cron job. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones
JD Austin wrote: I used to have it. I think there is a 'keep alive' option in the settings on the 2wire modem (I had an actiontec modem). If not have the box you're sshing into ping google every minute or two (ping -c 20 google.com http://google.com) via a cron job. Sadly that wont do any good

Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread JD Austin
I remember that I went through a DSL modem every year due to bad lines in my area. I had a static IP and it would just drop connection randomly when the modem was going bad. If I had a non-static IP it would have done what you're experiencing. Your modem might be ready for replacement. If you

HackFest Series: DSL Router Exploits, Stack/Email/UPnP WRT

2009-01-31 Thread Lisa Kachold
Most home based routers can be easily exploited in a variety of ways. This is a list of a great many historic security exploits: http://attrition.org/security/advisory/ ...but it's probably going to work best to just google your router version. Even the open-wrt and dd-wrt 3rd party

DSL Intelligence

2008-09-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hmmm? Looks like I have some OpenSwan Boot log information in my honeypot router log? Scratch head! Except HO-NOOOS! I don't believe they setup any certs for me? Since my router manufacturer doesn't use OpenSwan, I suppose these brownie helpers probably also broke my 1000 HT ethernet

USB DSL Connections and/or Fedora 9 Wireless Setup

2008-06-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
be similar if your installation is not working (what kind of DSL modem do you have? http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/speedbundle_fedora.html 2) Wireless Connections: What is your wireless card/chip?  Atheros?  See these links: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=189182 http

dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Havens
WHich is really faster? I was told that cable is bettert since coax carries the signal better. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Havens
I hate being tired! What I mean to ask is which produces faster internet. On Tuesday 22 April 2008 6:07 am, Michael Havens wrote: WHich is really faster? I was told that cable is bettert since coax carries the signal better. --- PLUG-discuss

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael March
When DSL is tuned up an the conditions are right, it can match cable. Cable is more consistent in its 'good' quality. -- admiral Michael F. March - mmarch at gmail dot com Seriously - HSR --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Sammartano
, Cable will always be faster from an engineering standpoint, and the cable companies have made it clear we will see 1gbps or more in the very near future. I am sure you will hear more about why DSL is faster ( they are opinions as well ) but you can't argue with the physical characteristics from

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Sammartano
will see 1gbps or more in the very near future. I am sure you will hear more about why DSL is faster ( they are opinions as well ) but you can't argue with the physical characteristics from one to the other. DSL is priced accordingly and so is cable. Some complain cable has been a hassle, others

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Micah DesJardins
For most people, under most conditions cable will be faster than DSL. Especially if you are comparing similar pricing. Some DSL options are faster than average cable internet, but they are usually a bit more expensive. My personal experience has been better with cable than DSL but your milage my

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread storkus
I can't ignore this anymore, my curiosity is killing me: all of these speeds you refer to, AFAIK, is download. But who is the UPLOAD speed champ? Or do any of these companies care about that? And while we're at it, what kinds of upload speeds are you all getting with cable vs dsl? Here at my

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Havens
may compare and base your decision on that. FWIW though, Cable will always be faster from an engineering standpoint, and the cable companies have made it clear we will see 1gbps or more in the very near future. I am sure you will hear more about why DSL is faster ( they are opinions as well

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Matt Graham
more than they upload, so download speed is most relevant. Also, most cable and many DSL providers have terms in their TOS that say, You can't run servers of type X, Y, and Z... which makes upload even less relevant. And while we're at it, what kinds of upload speeds are you all getting

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Dan Lund
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Matt Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody cares about that. The typical home user downloads quite a bit more than they upload, so download speed is most relevant. Also, most cable and many DSL providers have terms in their TOS that say, You can't run

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread Erich Newell
Let me preface what I'm about to say with a disclaimer: I think Cox Communications (as a company) sucks. That said, I've had no other option for the past 8years in my house...and as long as I don't have to call them or rely on them for anything other than bandwidth (no DNS, no mail etc.) then my

Re: dsl/cable-cable

2008-04-22 Thread storkus
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:18:40 -0700, Matt Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 23K up, 67K down, DSL. I live too far from the CO for anything higher. Cable was never an option for me because I want to run my own mail and web servers, and Cox's draconian TOS prevents that. Wow, you must

Re: Strange dsl problems

2008-03-06 Thread Dazed_75
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 19:27 -0600, Josef Lowder wrote: . Recently, I have been experiencing strange dsl problems, which I have been unable to either solve or even pin down. My main Linux box which is ethernet

Re: Strange dsl problems

2008-03-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 19:27 -0600, Josef Lowder wrote: . Recently, I have been experiencing strange dsl problems, which I have been unable to either solve or even pin down. My main Linux box which is ethernet wire connected to my 2-wire modem/router has had a few dropped signals

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-29 Thread Dale Farnsworth
Micah DesJardins wrote: I don't need an ISP for email, hosting or any other service other than the connection itself. It looks like FastQ will cost me more than the data only option from Qwest. What's the benefit that I'm missing on going with FastQ over Qwest if they're using the same line?

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-29 Thread keith smith
If you have business DSL with Qwest you can get IP's also. Why would you want to though. If you are really serious about your server it should be co-located. Dale Farnsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micah DesJardins wrote: I don't need an ISP for email, hosting or any other service

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-29 Thread Dale Farnsworth
Keith Smith wrote: If you have business DSL with Qwest you can get IP's also. Why would you want to though. They want too much money. If you are really serious about your server it should be co-located. True. For me, it's a hobby, so I do it on the cheap. For about $50/month, the family

Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread Micah DesJardins
Hello all, It turns out the new place I'm moving to (an apartment in West Mesa) isn't serviced by Cox so I am looking into whatever other broadband options are available. My preferences are as follows: 1. Always on 2. No software required (OS/platform independent, I plan on throwing my linksys

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread JD Austin
in a while and find I really like it that way. So far, it looks like Qwest is an option but I'm interested in looking into anything that might be either faster/cheaper/or more reliable. FastQ is a small, Linux Friendly ISP that uses DSL over QWest's lines. I second FastQ :) I had them

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread Micah DesJardins
Thanks for the recommendations. Anyone have any experience with Speakeasy? They will apparently drop a dedicated line for approximately $55 a month. I have just had horrible luck with DSL piggybacked off the existing phone lines and would rather not repeat that experience

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread Alex LeDonne
On Nov 28, 2007 12:15 PM, Micah DesJardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the recommendations. Anyone have any experience with Speakeasy? They will apparently drop a dedicated line for approximately $55 a month. I have just had horrible luck with DSL piggybacked off the existing phone

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread Eddie Hillenbrand
to a location that did not have DSL. So I used Cox for about a year, but that's another story. Since I was on contract with Speakesay moving would cause me to incur their cancelation fee. I told the customer service rep that I liked the service and would use it in the future when I moved

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread KevinO
Micah DesJardins wrote: I don't need an ISP for email, hosting or any other service other than the connection itself. It looks like FastQ will cost me more than the data only option from Qwest. What's the benefit that I'm missing on going with FastQ over Qwest if they're using the same line?

Re: Broadband / DSL recommendations?

2007-11-28 Thread Matt Graham
After a long battle with technology, Micah DesJardins wrote: I don't need an ISP for email, hosting or any other service other than the connection itself. It looks like FastQ will cost me more than the data only option from Qwest. What's the benefit that I'm missing on going with FastQ over