Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-02-02 Thread JD Austin
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Technomage wrote: > There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for > various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages > are definitely the bane of out existence. > > its been proper etiquette on the internet since its

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-02-02 Thread Technomage
Dazed_75 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Judd Pickell wrote: > > >> Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their >> emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned >> about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still usi

RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-02-02 Thread Lisa Kachold
700 > From: technomage.ha...@gmail.com > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get > server hardware > > There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for > various reasons (s

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-02-02 Thread Technomage
There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages are definitely the bane of out existence. its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail usually is plain text and if you wish

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread JD Austin
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: >> >>> >>> I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because >> of >>> the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Jared Anderson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because > of > > the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was > > bothersome so I finally switched back t

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Dazed_75
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Stephen wrote: > Usually its pretty? > > Or maybe conveys information more efficiently? Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen
Usually its pretty? On 1/29/09, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > >> >> I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of >> the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was >> bothersome so I finally switched back to the r

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Dazed_75
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because > of > > the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was > > bothersome so I finally switched back t

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread JD Austin
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because > of > > the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was > > bothersome so I finally switched back t

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Dazed_75
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Judd Pickell wrote: > > >> Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. >> Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would >> support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of >> the world to ch

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: > > I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of > the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was > bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionali

RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
ails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware From: pick...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need t

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Judd Pickell
> > Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. > Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would > support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of > the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna > hap

RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
> From: a...@crackpot.org > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get > server hardware > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:52:39 -0700 > > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: &

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Dean
On Jan 29, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Hans is moving the servers to a spiffy new hosting provider. Drupal is being upgraded by a team of volunteers. Drupal's mail features can be set for each user in the mailer functions. If you don't want your mail to be sent HTML, you can spe

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Dazed_75
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Judd Pickell wrote: > Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their > emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned > about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or > equiv, since t

RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
ngs on the PLUG signup/management site. http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:31:53 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware From: pick...@gmail.com To: pl

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread Judd Pickell
Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or equiv, since that is and can be done via commandline like ssh from a phone.

Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-29 Thread JD Austin
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan England wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques < > moz-do-not-send="true" > > href="mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net";> > patr..

OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread Nathan England
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques < moz-do-not-send="true" > href="mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net";>patr...@kinetic-computing.neta>> wrote: > cite="mid:2864806b0901280414k20d4b761pf0527c

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread JD Austin
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > JD Austin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Laurence J. Peter - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to > > do forty pounds of laundry a week." > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques > > mailto:patr...@kinetic-computi

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread Eric Shubert
JD Austin wrote: > > > > > Laurence J. Peter - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to > do forty pounds of laundry a week." > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques > mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net>> > wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patric

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread JD Austin
Laurence J. Peter - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to do forty pounds of laundry a week." On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques < patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques < > patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote: > >

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread Patrick Jacques
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques wrote: Also, which version of smoothwall are you working with? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-28 Thread JD Austin
It can't find either module via modprobe :( On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques < patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > Smoothwall might be trying to use sk98lin for the DGE card, but have you > tried the sky2 module? Or vise-versa, try removing/disabling sky2 o

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-27 Thread Patrick Jacques
Greetings, Smoothwall might be trying to use sk98lin for the DGE card, but  have you tried the sky2 module?  Or vise-versa, try removing/disabling sky2 or sk98lin, whichever one smoothwall is detecting & trying on boot.  The Nextreme (broadcom) uses the tg3 driver.  Are you able to switch to a

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-27 Thread Sir Light
*waves to JD* I have a server from ebay for REAL cheap. It is a Compaq DL380 G2 that is now running my firewall(IPCop) that I got for $65. It has a pair of pIII cpus, a gig of memory and a pair of 36gigs HD(using just one of them) You might want to try there. IPCop installed just great on it.

Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-27 Thread Stephen
well i have a couple of old cards a rtl and a 3com i think... and the intel dual gig-e... but frys is mostly about it unless you want to order newegg/tiger/other similar mifddle man i suppose if you call about there are shops locally that will do it. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:17 PM, JD Austin w

Other than frys where would you get server hardware

2009-01-27 Thread JD Austin
10 years ago I used to recompile kernels almost every day to get it to support the hardware I had, now days it is a rarety. I'm scheduled to install the firewall on Friday but I've sent the better part of 3 days building and rebuilding smoothwall to try to get it to support the network cards in a