Re: SCO: Was Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-07 Thread Scott
; wrote: > From: Jason Spatafore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: SCO: Was Re: We are screwed. > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:41 PM > Who is SCO? > > I vaguely remember the name...I think it was a company that > thought i

SCO: Was Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-07 Thread Jason Spatafore
day, November 05, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: RE: We are screwed. >I for one am very tempted to unsubscribe from this list until this all goes >away. I'm a member for useful linux related knowledge, not political and >religious debate... Unless talking about SCO and the church of slac

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-06 Thread mike havens
let this die! On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Robert Holtzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, keith smith wrote: > > > Craig, > > > > It is obvious you are not interested in the truth. There is > > something amiss with Obama. I do not know exactly what. > > > > I believe everyth

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-06 Thread Dan Lund
He was referring to fecal matter tossing. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Robert Holtzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Josh Coffman wrote a whole bunch of times: >

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-06 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, keith smith wrote: > Craig, > > It is obvious you are not interested in the truth. There is > something amiss with Obama. I do not know exactly what. > > I believe everything I provided is the truth or brings into > question what we have been told about our future leader. > >

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-06 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Josh Coffman wrote a whole bunch of times: > monkeys Is there some cryptic meaning here or are you just typing what the voices tell you? -- Bob Holtzman "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

OT: Re: We are screwed."I'm a member for useful linux related knowledge, not political and religious debate..."

2008-11-06 Thread wayne
l Message- > From: Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: November 05, 2008 5:03 PM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > > Exactly.. fruitless discussion that beckons illusionary bipartisan bickering. > This has no place here. There may be no

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Ryan Rix
Tron Paul revolution!!! ~Ryan ~~~Pardon, I'm not trying to be inflammatory, I've just been making this joke all day. Sadly at least three people believed me when I said Paul actually won. At least until I made the Tron Paul Joke and the ballon: http://xkcd.com/497/ On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:22 AM,

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Alan Dayley
. > Otherwise step aside. > > btw Hagee preaches the Bible. > > I invite you to read the Bible and see if what he says cannot be > explained by what what is in it. > > > Keith Smith > > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread mike havens
rve? Has he sacrificed? > > > > > > What little we know about him scares me. > > > > > > I do not like what is going on in America. I did not support the > > > bailout nor do I think it will work. I just think McCain is much less > > > sca

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: We are screwed. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:43 PM On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0800, keith smith wrote: > I find this interesting the Obama would not just provide proof > that

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
5/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: We are screwed. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:43 PM On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0800, keith smith wrote: > I

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Cat Chapman
gt; scary. > > > > ------------ > > Keith Smith > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, Thomas Cameron > > /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > > > From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread wayne
scares me. > > I do not like what is going on in America. I did not support the > bailout nor do I think it will work. I just think McCain is much less > scary. > > > Keith Smith > > > > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, Thomas Cameron > /&l

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread irb
* Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), on Wed, 2008.11.05, at 17:23 -0700: > I for one am very tempted to unsubscribe from this list until this all > goes away. I'm a member for useful linux related knowledge, not > political and religious debate... Unless talking about SCO and the > chu

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
Just because people voted for something does not make it right or so.  It only means a bunch of people voted for something. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
AIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:00 PM On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:45 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > You can make the argument that Richardson i

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 16:12:42 Thomas Cameron wrote: > Judd Pickell wrote: > > ...You can take heart that > > we on the R side of the board will not stoop to that. > > When McCain mentioned Obama's name in his concession speech, the > Republican crowd booed. > > When Obama mentioned McC

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
Excellent post! Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Judd Pickell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Judd Pickell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:31 PM A lot has

RE: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread jaraeth
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 05, 2008 5:03 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: We are screwed. Exactly.. fruitless discussion that beckons illusionary bipartisan bickering. This has no place here. There may be no rules about it, but there is self control. Otherwise there would

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Dan Lund
Exactly.. fruitless discussion that beckons illusionary bipartisan bickering. This has no place here. There may be no rules about it, but there is self control. Otherwise there would need to be rules, which goes against being free. Freedom comes at a price, no matter your partisan standing. Thank

Re: ****Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0800, keith smith wrote: > I find this interesting the Obama would not just provide proof > that he qualifies to be president. > I feel we all have the right to know. What does he have to hide. > So again who is this guy? If he is going to be my president I have a r

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:10 PM You almost had me until this statement. 'Cause everyone knows, if it's written on the Interne

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Cat Chapman
Jesus Christ, I thought Linux users were smarter than this... can't we all just get along? Flamewars lead to nowhere. -Cat P.S. I'm not insulting anyone in particular, I just chose to reply to this particular email at random. P.P.S. Obama/Nader ftw! :) On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:10 -0700, Craig W

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
file.com/ Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:07 PM keith smith w

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Cameron
Judd Pickell wrote: > ...You can take heart that > we on the R side of the board will not stoop to that. When McCain mentioned Obama's name in his concession speech, the Republican crowd booed. When Obama mentioned McCain's name in his victory speech, the Democrats applauded. As always. -

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
Thank goodness Thunderbird has a 'filter on Subject' option --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Jason Hayes
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 14:45:28 Thomas Cameron wrote: a bunch of stuff Sorry for getting involved in all of this. The complaints make it clear the discussion needs to end or be taken off of the list. -- Jason Hayes --- PLUG-discuss mailing

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:01 -0700, Jason Hayes wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 14:06:58 Craig White wrote: > > for those that missed it...the election was yesterday and the American > > public overwhelmingly rejected the mis-characterizations that you seem > > to feel necessary to repeat abo

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Eric Cope
I didn't ask about his social agenda. You talk about marginal this and marginal that and that he couldn't stick to a libertarian agenda. So, please enlighten us. From my point of view, he nailed the libertarian ticket. You seem to disagree and I am very interested in your viewpoint. Eric On Wed, N

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Jason Hayes
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 14:06:58 Craig White wrote: > for those that missed it...the election was yesterday and the American > public overwhelmingly rejected the mis-characterizations that you seem > to feel necessary to repeat above. > > you have joined the world of irrelevant - at least unt

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:45 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > You can make the argument that Richardson isn't in Obama's inner circle if > > you > > want. However, the progression was clear. When he had a chance, he reduced > > the > > number that made you "rich" in his eyes regularly. And, lik

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Cameron
Jason Hayes wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:50:39 Thomas Cameron wrote: >> keith smith wrote: >>> A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your >>> business to help those who do not want to help themselves. >> BWAHAHAH! Are you serious? I mean, *really* - t

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 16:25 -0500, mike havens wrote: > The Democrats of then are not like the Democrats of today. As > demonstrated by the opinion that we need to vote out of > self-preservation not country preservation. Politics twas always thus...it is only the fact that you are incapa

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Judd Pickell
A lot has been bandied around on this list in regards to the election. Regardless of which side you are for, and I am republican, one side lost, one side one. We have been asked to set aside the differences and work towards a better America. While my side lost, it will not change me working and pro

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Dan Lund
THANK you. I thought I was the only one here that had that feeling. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > monkeys ---

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread mike havens
The Democrats of then are not like the Democrats of today. As demonstrated by the opinion that we need to vote out of self-preservation not country preservation. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defe

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
"Main PLUG discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:03:56 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time > (Arizona) > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly not > even legally able to run for preside

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
Maybe it is time to stop all the name calling and give the man a chance, just like PRESIDENT Bush got when he was first elected! After all, arent the results all that matter? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Thomas Cameron < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > keith smith wrote: > > > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly > > not even legally able to run for president. Did you know there is a > > lawsuit to determine this fact? > > A

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josef Lowder
The best quote I've seen in this entire discussion was this: "It's unfortunate, but this is the mess we are stuck with." I was very, very tempted to just write in Joe Arpaio's name. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ditto. > > I have no television. > I despise Sean and Rush because they are just as elitist and just as > extreme but in the opposite direction as any of the air america people. I > don't care for any of them. > > NPR ten

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of t

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > > small, i

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
if that creates more jobs for Linux Admins, > PHP > > & Java Programmers, and MySql data Admins, is that not relevant? > > > > Record voting must mean people are concerned, I know I am. > > > > So I say it is relevant. > > > > ---- &

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it is time that we start working for constitutional options to the > two party system! they are out there! > > Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > >> Nobody was forced to take part

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
ed, 11/5/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:38 PM > > > HA! > > From what I read on the internet, there is

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you believe in the fairness doctrine, then you have no idea what Paul > represented. > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: >>

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
O CARRIER >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "keith smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:03:56 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time >> (Arizona) >> Subject: Re: We

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Jason Hayes
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:11:49 farli wrote: > Someone needs to watch something other than Fox and listen to someone > other than Sean and Rush! > This is beneath you and beneath the intelligence of this list. Not a productive addition to the conversation at all. We keep hearing from Obam

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kind of a catch-22, no? > > it's a blue collar conspiracy, the plumbers are taking over. > Thanks, > Dan Lund > > "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely > ignorance." > --Socrates > > > > On

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > > party candidate is a was

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, James Finstrom < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our >> down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Jason Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:50:39 Thomas Cameron wrote: > > keith smith wrote: > > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > > > business to help those who do not want to help t

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig, > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and Paul's > platform. > Eric > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:57 -0700, Jason Hayes wrote: > > > For those who missed the repeated updates on that particular promise from > > Obama. It started at $300K/yr. Then it moved to $250K, then $200K, then > $150

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at his social agenda > > Craig > > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:01 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: > > Craig, > > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and > > Paul's platform. > > Eric > > > > On

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> We should be one country, and not just when your guy wins or my guy wins. >> If that's the approach you're committed to, and you won't

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread mike havens
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We should be one country, and not just when your guy wins or my guy wins. > If that's the approach you're committed to, and you won't so much as listen > to a different idea because of who it comes from, then I guess we won'

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
Look at his social agenda Craig On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:01 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: > Craig, > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and > Paul's platform. > Eric > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Cameron
t; > All my questions come from the Internet's many sources. > > > > Keith Smith > <http://www.netcodeman.com/> > > > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, farli /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > From: farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Cameron
keith smith wrote: > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly > not even legally able to run for president. Did you know there is a > lawsuit to determine this fact? Are you seriously this stupid? Do you honestly think that if he were not eligible it would tak

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:57 -0700, Jason Hayes wrote: > For those who missed the repeated updates on that particular promise from > Obama. It started at $300K/yr. Then it moved to $250K, then $200K, then $150K > (Biden), then $120K (Gov Richardson NM). > > During the primaries, Obama referred t

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Eric Cope
Craig, I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and Paul's platform. Eric On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > > Nobody was forced

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Jason Hayes
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:50:39 Thomas Cameron wrote: > keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > > business to help those who do not want to help themselves. > > BWAHAHAH! Are you serious? I mean, *really* - this is hogwash and >

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our > down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical markers on street > signs. After we perfect our methods we will join forces we will jou

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > > small, in fact 1 in a million. The id

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Dan Lund
Kind of a catch-22, no? it's a blue collar conspiracy, the plumbers are taking over. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you believe in the fairnes

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread James Finstrom
November 5, 2008 1:03:56 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time > (Arizona) > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly not > even legally able to run for president. Did you know there is a lawsuit to > determine this f

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Eric Cope
If you believe in the fairness doctrine, then you have no idea what Paul represented. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > party ca

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
I think it is lizard people from THIS dimension control everything. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesda

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread David
control everything - the Illuminati are +++ATH0 NO CARRIER - Original Message - From: "keith smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:03:56 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: We are screwed.

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
Maybe it is time that we start working for constitutional options to the two party system! they are out there! Nathan wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: >> Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd >> party candidate is a waste of vote. Fa

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Dan Lund
; > So I say it is relevant. > > > Keith Smith > > > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of two evils > has delivered a pr

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Eric Cope
Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of two evils has delivered a president with a 30% approval rating and a Congress with a 1

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan
ditto. I have no television. I despise Sean and Rush because they are just as elitist and just as extreme but in the opposite direction as any of the air america people. I don't care for any of them. NPR tends to be okay, but a little more left than I care for. I balance it with tons of intern

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
's many sources. > > > > Keith Smith > <http://www.netcodeman.com/> > > > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, farli /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > From: farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:18:18 Josh Coffman wrote: > mute.. mute mute dammit, gmail. ok fine.. > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans > > to be quite amusing. :P > > > > If

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
know about him scares me. > > I do not like what is going on in America. I did not support the > bailout nor do I think it will work. I just think McCain is much less > scary. > > > Keith Smith > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Thomas Came

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh, but you see the point of that was that the argument I was > commenting on was drudging through the US vs THEM territory that the 2 > party system seems to bring out in people. If someone wants want to > claim that th

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
CTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:11 PM Someone needs to watch something other than Fox and listen to someone other than Sean and Rush! The facts are out there, keith - if you choose

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
gt; > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, Thomas Cameron /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* > wrote: > > From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We are screwed. > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:50 AM >

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
CTED]> wrote: From: Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:50 AM keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > business to

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Andler
Josh Coffman wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend > Republicans > to be quite amusing. :P > > > If your measure were based on the values represente

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 11:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > Alex, > >be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled > into their heads as small children. I'm a boomer and I don't see things this way at all. This isn't about communism, socialism at all and I find your

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread keith smith
Unfortunately we are doomed to relive history because one generation out no one remembers. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLU

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread James Finstrom
This may be a bad time to mention that your dad could probably beat up my dad and if you would just quote me a price we can make that happen. I think no one should be surprised that Obama won heck they announced it weeks ago. The most dangerous thing about America is our ideas and I think our found

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Coffman
mute.. mute mute dammit, gmail. ok fine.. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans > to be quite amusing. :P > If your measure were based on the values represented by the quote and not the p

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:42:24 Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Alex, > >be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled into > their heads as small children. > > -jmz > Funny, cuz I'm not a 'boomer' as you say. Yet I see the writing on the wall. nathan ---

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Randy Melder
>> "facist" here we go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law lmao --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread farli
I find it amusing that anyone can attempt to defend the fascist state that Obama will try to lead us out of! Maybe, since the Republicans have shown their true nature, it is time to at least give the Democrats a chance. Josh Andler wrote: > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Cameron
keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > business to help those who do not want to help themselves. BWAHAHAH! Are you serious? I mean, *really* - this is hogwash and you should know better. One misquote != socialist agenda, and anyo

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Dean
On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Craig White wrote: The graduated income tax scale has been US law for a century now and the commentary that includes the socialist label upon any particular faction for adjusting the indexes of the graduated scale merely proves the point that some people can

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Andler
Alex Dean wrote: > On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: > >> A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because >> she sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry >> about putting food on my table or putting gas in my car.' She wants >> socialism! She, a

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Andler
I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans to be quite amusing. :P mike havens wrote: > Self interest? Whatever happened to, "Ask not what your country can do > for you; but for what you can do for your country," and to the > STATESMAN mindset rathedr than to the pol

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 09:57 -0800, keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax > your business to help those who do not want to help themselves. Socialist? Seems to me that bailing out Wall Street companies and banks was as socialist as it gets a

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Alex, be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled into their heads as small children. -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: > > A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was th

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread Alex Dean
On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because she sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry about putting food on my table or putting gas in my car.' She wants socialism! She, and like minded people, di

Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-05 Thread James Finstrom
;> >>> ---- >>> Keith Smith >>> >>> >>> --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >>> >>> From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: We are screw

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