Man in a van wrote:
> So is the 339kbps a "false positive"?I have a feeling HLS was always reported
> as 339kbps and seems to my
untrained eye to be in the HLS header posted by bpa a few posts back.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
So is the 339kbps a "false positive"?
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d6jg wrote:
> Maybe I have but the is what seems to be the difference. You get
> 339kbps with it but with & you get 320kbps
> One gets HLS and the other Dash
Tech answer.
"" is HTML encoding for "&". OPML menu needs HTML encoded URLs.
When OPML handles passes URL to plugin it will have
Man in a van wrote:
> I just changed Live Stream Preferences to HLS>DASH>MP3>.
>
> restarted LMS and Radio 2 is Bitrate:
>
>
>
I just changed Live Stream Preferences to HLS>DASH>MP3>.
restarted LMS and Radio 2 is Bitrate:
d6jg wrote:
> I suspect its a typo that slipped through one of bpas Revisions but he
> isnt in UK so may not have noticed.
> Im not even sure how I noticed the difference between 2 of the urls
> posted earlier and the effect but I did.
It is in bpa's post #559
and you can see it in my
bpa wrote:
> Have you got that backward ?
>
> DASH & HLS - 101
>
> Bandwidth is declared in the initialisation parts of the streams - the
> actual bandwidth could be a fraction or even a multiple - the plugin
> does not calculate it or estimate it - just displays what it is told.
> AFAIK BBC
Well, if I go to
Code:
sudo nano /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/prefs/favorites.opml
Radio 2 is
>
slartibartfast wrote:
> I seem to remember we used to get 339kbps with iPlayer at one time when
> HLS and dash first came in.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I suspect its a typo that slipped through one of bpas Revisions but he
isnt in UK so may not have noticed.
Im not even sure
d6jg wrote:
> I hadn't realised that the BBC iPlayer Plugin was coded like that but
> yes if you change & to you get DASH at 339kbps otherwise you get
> 320kbps HLS
>
> @bpa - have you noted this ?
Have you got that backward ?
DASH & HLS - 101
Bandwidth is declared in the initialisation
d6jg wrote:
> I hadn't realised that the BBC iPlayer Plugin was coded like that but
> yes if you change & to & you get DASH at 339kbps otherwise you get
> 320kbps HLS
>
> @bpa - have you noted this ?I seem to remember we used to get 339kbps with
> iPlayer at one time when
HLS and dash first
Man in a van wrote:
> just done this with Radio2
I hadn't realised that the BBC iPlayer Plugin was coded like that but
yes if you change & to you get DASH at 339kbps otherwise you get
320kbps HLS
@bpa - have you noted this ?
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d6jg wrote:
>
>
> You'll get 339kbps DASH
>
> The difference is the "&" changed to ""
>
>
just done this with Radio2
>
>
>
If you play this as posted by Mavit you get 320kbps AAC HLS
mavit wrote:
> Works for me.
OK - after checking as many variants as I can, I believe DASH is "UK
only" possibly because it has higher throughput (dash_low gives 404
dash_full gives 403)
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bpa wrote:
> DASH does not seems to be working
Works for me.
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For Non UK - the HLS URL with mavit's icon URL and a "Glastonbury 2019"
title (rather than "null")
iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_glastonbury.m3u8=Glastonbury
Just checked the normal BBC metadata sources
"polling.co.uk/modules/onairpanel" and radioplayer and there seems to be
no feed for "bbc_radio_glastonbury".
The new temporary station bbc_radio_glastonbury seems to be HLS only
and no BBC standard metadata and the web page requires Flash plugin
Sb42 wrote:
> Confirmed HLS Live settings as you have shown above.
> Tried URL above in Tune in and Squeezebox shows 'Stream preference
> setting format missing playback'
Went back to Settings, reviewed it and realised that I had not set the
Live Preference in BBC Iplayer, I had Set On Demand
bpa wrote:
> I made a mistake - I gave the entry as it would appear in the menu.opml
> file and not for Tune-in (i.e. "" should be just "&"). Below is
> for Tune-in
>
> edit:
> Two mistakes - DASH seems to be not working. So make sure you have HLS
> in your "live" settings(I.e. DASH > HLS >
mavit wrote:
> Here it is again including a logo:
>
>
Raymond Woodward wrote:
> UK version works as advertised, but no graphic obviously ...
Here it is again including a logo:
Sb42 wrote:
> ok, I'm lost now.
>
> I have BBC iplayer v 1.6.7 and PLay HLS 1.1 on my LMS v7.9.1 and I enter
> this into Tune in URL
>
>
ok, I'm lost now.
I have BBC iplayer v 1.6.7 and PLay HLS 1.1 on my LMS v7.9.1 and I enter
this into Tune in URL
bpa wrote:
> This works for HLS non UK .
>
>
>
> UK
>
>
Some of the Glastonbury sets appear as programs under "Glastonbury" in
Listen Again for Radio 1 and 6Music.
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bpa wrote:
> This works for HLS non UK .
>
> https://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/low/llnws/bbc_radio_glastonbury.m3u8
>
>
>
> UK
>
Sb42 wrote:
> Silly me! I just realised that the links are for browser use! Not
> Squeezebox!
Huh !
Just to clarify. The non UK streams (DASH & HLS) plays OK for me on my
LMS.
http HLS stream URLs will need the PlayHLS plugin installed.
iplayer:// stream URLs needs to be saved as a favorite
Sb42 wrote:
> I'm outside of the UK, tried both the hls and non-uk urls as pasted
> below. Hls didn't respond and the Non-Uk shows as Null in the Console.
> Thanks for the help, don't put too much effort into itit will be
> over on Sunday ;-)
Silly me! I just realised that the links are
I'm outside of the UK, tried both the hls and non-uk urls as pasted
below. Hls didn't respond and the Non-Uk shows as Null in the Console.
Thanks for the help, don't put too much effort into itit will be
over on Sunday ;-)
bpa wrote:
> This works for HLS non UK .
>
>
Sb42 wrote:
> Any chance of anyone identifying the Stream URL for Radio Glastonbury?
> ;-)
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_glastonbury
This works for HLS non UK .
Any chance of anyone identifying the Stream URL for Radio Glastonbury?
;-)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_glastonbury
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I'm still on LMS 7.8.0 (on WHS v1). I've stayed on 7.8.0 simply because
it has been working for years and I saw no reason to break a working
system. I foresee no issue upgrading to 7.9 except I'd have to work out
which release, I don't like running nightly builds.
mavit wrote:
> Only the general issue that it's 2019 and it's better to use HTTPS
> wherever it's available.
Good no specific issue that has been missed.
> However, a number of the http:// URLs already redirect to https:// ,
> so if such users still exist, I dont believe that (all of the
>
bpa wrote:
> I haven't looked at the code change yet but what issues are you trying
> to solve ?
Only the general issue that it's 2019 and it's better to use HTTPS
wherever it's available.
bpa wrote:
>
> When BBC started using https , test versions of the plugin preferred the
> use of the
mavit wrote:
> Ive had a go at making versions of BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra that
> use HTTPS more often. If anyone would like to test these, you can grab
> them from
> https://gitlab.com/mavit/squeezebox-bbciplayer-plugin/tree/https and
>
Ive had a go at making versions of BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra that
use HTTPS more often. If anyone would like to test these, you can grab
them from
https://gitlab.com/mavit/squeezebox-bbciplayer-plugin/tree/https and
https://gitlab.com/mavit/squeezebox-bbciplayerextra-plugin/tree/https.
mavit wrote:
> If SourceForge is unavoidable, you could try increasing the timeout. I
> think this is Settings Advanced Network Radio
> Station Timeout.
Thank you, I've never thought, or needed, to fiddle with that in the
past, mine is sitting at the system default of 15 seconds. It does
mrw wrote:
>
> > >
>
- I'm seeing on the Plugin tab (if I've had to wait a while for it
> to load):
>
-Bad repository
> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml
- Connect timed out: Resource temporarily unavailable-
> > >
> I haven't looked
bpa wrote:
> Not just sourceforge - I've had this delay problem for months with some
> other sites (some of my plugins initialise using data from remote sites
> and this can block LMS startup) and the recent LMS 20Jun-19 fix cured
> these lockups.
>
> Since the fix cured these problems for me
mrw wrote:
> Just a heads up: a very recent change in LMS (-Non-blocking TLS
> handshake-) seems to be "exposing" SourceForge shortcomings.
Not just sourceforge - I've had this delay problem for months with some
other sites (some of my plugins initialise using data from remote sites
and this
slartibartfast wrote:
> I have to agree. I have your repo for the Radio applet in my additional
> repos and it seems to consistently time out at the moment.
>
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I'll see if I can change the host, and post to the thread when done. I
think it's safe to
mrw wrote:
> Just a heads up: a very recent change in LMS (-Non-blocking TLS
> handshake-) seems to be "exposing" SourceForge shortcomings.
>
> With this change:
>
> > >
- My music continues to play while waiting for the Plugin tab to
> load, instead of grinding to a halt, as it often
bpa wrote:
> I think sourceforge is throttling files which are downloaded a lot such
> as the repo files as there seems to be smaller delays with the Zip
> files. Delays loading the repo files messes with LMS startup and Plugin
> tab loading and can cause strange errors.
>
> Nice thing about
slartibartfast wrote:
> Don't thank me, thank bpa [emoji3]
>
>
Thank you bpa too :D
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leapfrog wrote:
> slartibartfast, you are an absolute star! I have unchecked the v1.5, the
> "pink" button has disappeared from my menu and I can listen again in
> both iplayer (latest programmes) and iplayer extras (several weeks)
> Thank you so much!Don't thank me, thank bpa [emoji3]
Sent
slartibartfast wrote:
> Yes. That's the one I use.
>
>
slartibartfast, you are an absolute star! I have unchecked the v1.5, the
"pink" button has disappeared from my menu and I can listen again in
both iplayer (latest programmes) and iplayer extras (several weeks)
Thank you so much!
leapfrog wrote:
> http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml ?Yes. That's the
> one I use.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Why not keep the bpa repo and delete the armourhome repo in that case?
>
>
http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml ?
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> My LMS is on a NAS (QNAP)Why not keep the bpa repo and delete the armourhome
> repo in that case?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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> Do you have a Systemline system?
>
>
My LMS is on a NAS (QNAP)
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> No idea!Do you have a Systemline system?
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> Where did you get the armourhome repo from?
>
>
No idea!
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Are you actually using an armourhome system? 1.6.7 is the latest.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I don't know!
I have two iplayer "buttons" to choose from, a white one and a pink one.
(Told you I'm not techy!)
Both work perfectly well for direct feed.
leapfrog wrote:
> I don't know!
> I have two iplayer "buttons" to choose from, a white one and a pink one.
> (Told you I'm not techy!)
>
> Both work perfectly well for direct feed.
>
> Neither work for On Demand/Catch up and I get the error message:
> *There was an error loading the remote
leapfrog wrote:
> Thank you bpa.
> I have deleted the other two plug-ins in the list, leaving only the
> armourhome one.
> So which plug-in should I uncheck in the active plug-ins, 1.6.7 or 1.5?Are
> you actually using an armourhome system? 1.6.7 is the latest.
Sent from my SM-G900F using
bpa wrote:
> Only install ONE of these - all three and you may have problems now or
> more likely in the future.
>
> Only install armourhome repo if you are using an armourhome system - it
> is subtly different to the standard plugin and this may be in settings.
>
>
>
> If you have both
leapfrog wrote:
> Thanks slartibartfast
>
> iplayer setting v1.6.7 and also v1.5
> iplayer extras v3.1.0
>
> I don't have a choice for On Demand settings using iplayer extras. There
> is no "HLS>MP3>DASH" box, just the "Select if you do not want DASH
> streams" box which is *_NOT__*checked.
leapfrog wrote:
> http://ecom.armourhome.co.uk/technical/BBCiplayer/repo.xml
> http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/betarelease-repo.xml
>
Only install ONE of these - all three and you may have problems now or
more
slartibartfast wrote:
> Which version of the iPlayer plugin are you using? The latest is 1.6.7.
> What are your settings for On Demand Stream Preference?
>
>
Thanks slartibartfast
iplayer setting v1.6.7 and also v1.5
iplayer extras v3.1.0
I don't have a choice for On Demand settings using
leapfrog wrote:
> I still can't get the listen again (catch up) feature (listen live works
> fine).
> Here is the issue:
>
> I listen outside the UK.
> My LMS is on a QNAP.
> I don't know how much information you require about the version, but
> here goes:
>
> Logitech Media Server Version:
I still can't get the listen again (catch up) feature (listen live works
fine).
Here is the issue:
I listen outside the UK.
My LMS is on a QNAP.
I don't know how much information you require about the version, but
here goes:
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1559745322 @ Wed Jun 5 16:54:07
zmpo wrote:
> I've now bitten the bullet and upgraded to wheezy (with attendant levels
> of hassle :mad:) and everything is working fine.
Perhaps, having become used to the taste of bullets, you might upgrade
yet again to stretch, while the pain is still fresh in your mind. It
might then give
bpa wrote:
> You have not provided details of the underlying system
Thanks for your help.
I was running on Debian squeeze (having put off upgrading for years
because of the level of hassle involved). I've now bitten the bullet
and upgraded to wheezy (with attendant levels of hassle :mad:)
zmpo wrote:
> The version of perl is v5.10.1
You have not provided details of the underlying system (e.g. NAS, PC, OS
version) . The version of Perl is quite old and this may be indicative
of the age of some of the support libraries.
It does look to be openSSL related. The Perl module relies
My guess ... try updating the version of IO::Socket::SSL
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libio-socket-ssl-perl
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Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin
Paul Webster's
My Perl is incredibly rusty, however I have written a quick script:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use diagnostics;
use strict;
use IO::Socket::SSL qw(debug4);
my $client = IO::Socket::SSL->new("www.bbc.co.uk:443");
if (defined $client) {
print $client "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n";
print
Hi
I have a problem similar to paulo72's from earlier and would be grateful
for any pointers.
live streams work fine but when trying on the listen again streams I get
nothing.
I have checked that I can access the json files from the box running
LMS, so it doesn't seem to be a firewall
gerryt wrote:
> I've been unable able to get BBciplayerextras (3.1.0) to play anything
> for a while - it didn't worry me too much as BBciplayer (1.6.7) still
> worked ok but I've finally got round to investigating.
>
> The log says for example:
>
>
> [19-06-06 16:18:55.4776]
gerryt wrote:
> I've been unable able to get BBciplayerextras (3.1.0) to play anything
> for a while - it didn't worry me too much as BBciplayer (1.6.7) still
> worked ok but I've finally got round to investigating.
>
> The log says for example:
>
>
> [19-06-06 16:18:55.4776]
I've been unable able to get BBciplayerextras (3.1.0) to play anything
for a while - it didn't worry me too much as BBciplayer (1.6.7) still
worked ok but I've finally got round to investigating.
The log says for example:
[19-06-06 16:18:55.4776] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (148)
Paul Webster wrote:
> It is this
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98949-LMS-7-8-Defeat-destructive-Touch-To-Play
Yes, that's it. And I'm beginning to think it's more trouble than it's
worth.
As bpa said, nothing to do with iPlayer, so please ignore me.
1xRadio, 2xReceiver,
Paul Webster wrote:
> It is this
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98949-LMS-7-8-Defeat-destructive-Touch-To-Play
Thanks - nothing to do the with the plugins which is good as I changed
nothing in relation to Jive/Squeezplay support.
It is this
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98949-LMS-7-8-Defeat-destructive-Touch-To-Play
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indifference_engine wrote:
> Ok, I'm an idiot!!
>
> It's the "Defeat destructive Touch-To-Play" feature at work. If I'm
> listening to something then I get the ">" and popup, by way of an "are
> you sure" prompt. If my playlist is empty then I only get the ">" for
> items with sub-menus and
bpa wrote:
> Please give explicit example with details BBCiPlayer or BBCiPlayerExtra
> , Live or Listen Again, Which Station, Daoily or by program name ?.
> Also LMS version, BBCiPlayer version, Squeezeplay Version.
Ok, I'm an idiot!!
It's the "Defeat destructive Touch-To-Play" feature at
indifference_engine wrote:
> I have noticed that in Squeezeplay every item has the ">" symbol
> indicating a sub-menu even when there isn't one. Clicking on an item
> that has a sub-menu opens it as before, but clicking on an item that
> does not have a sub-menu (despite the ">" glyph
Thank you to everyone involved in getting my favourite plugin up and
running again.
I have noticed that in Squeezeplay every item has the ">" symbol
indicating a sub-menu even when there isn't one. Clicking on an item
that has a sub-menu opens it as before, but clicking on an item that
does
ChaoticMike wrote:
> No, but only because the network test of the Duet Receivers has never
> seemd very reliable/usable/easy to interpret. Is it better on the
> Boom?[/qyote]
>
> I'm not familiar with Network test on Duet - but if run from controller
> - it will be ameasure of controller
bpa wrote:
> Have you tried the Network Test facility of the Boom ?
No, but only because the network test of the Duet Receivers has never
seemd very reliable/usable/easy to interpret. Is it better on the
Boom?
bpa wrote:
> It's a bit worrying you don't know the topology of your own
ChaoticMike wrote:
> Thanks again. I'll see if I can get some LAN metrics out of the
> extenders. The 7.9.2 is a great deal better, but not totally perfect.
> You're right, I should have been referring to Duet Receivers, of which
> there are several.
If you give model nos - others might be
bpa wrote:
> With LMS the ID number is Epoch time of last change - the date string is
> the build date - so your 7.9.1 LMS version had last change made on 27
> Mar 2018 but the (nightly?) build that was installed was created on 30
> Mar2018.
>
> So does this mean the BBCiPlayer stream are a
Fiddlesticks wrote:
> Quick note of appreciation - I got the "failed to parse" message on BBC
> iPlayer over the weekend. Had to add a different repo in the plugins
> section of my LMS web interface:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/betarelease-repo.xml
> Checked "update
Fiddlesticks wrote:
> Quick note of appreciation - I got the "failed to parse" message on BBC
> iPlayer over the weekend. Had to add a different repo in the plugins
> section of my LMS web interface:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/betarelease-repo.xml
> Checked "update
Quick note of appreciation - I got the "failed to parse" message on BBC
iPlayer over the weekend. Had to add a different in the plugins section
of my LMS web interface:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/betarelease-repo.xml
Checked "update automatically"
Restarted LMS and
ChaoticMike wrote:
> I went to the Max2Play console and prodded the 'update Squeezebox
> server' button. The log has the same ID number (1522157629) but a
> date/time of Fri Mar 30 12:27:11 CEST 2018. Assuming that wasn't going
> to be much better, I did a bit of digging, acquired and
bpa wrote:
> If the rebuffering also happens with Somafm streams which is a simple
> AAC stream - it means your local LMS and/or LAN is not up playing AAC
> trancoded into Flac streams (i.e. Boom, Receiver)
>
> I think the BBCIPlayer problem is an additional problem
> I notice you are on LMS
ChaoticMike wrote:
> *Does it happen with SomFM?* Yes, instant buffering occurred.
If the rebuffering also happens with Somafm streams which is a simple
AAC stream - it means your local LMS and/or LAN is not up playing AAC
trancoded into Flac streams (i.e. Boom, Receiver)
I think the
Thanks again bpa. Acting on a suspicion, I persuaded the Boom to join a
WiFi segment directly running from the WiFi access point (i.e. not
offered by an extender) and buffering problems went away. Directly
before I did that, on the extender's segment, it was dropping and
buffering, so I think
ChaoticMike wrote:
> I stopped the Squeezebox server (SBS) process, emptied the logs and
> restarted, followed by a connection to the R4 feed via the BBC iPlayer
> app. Dropouts continue, but there is nothing relevant being recorded in
> the SBS' error log.
Can you do as I ask ? sometimes it
slartibartfast wrote:
> Have you tried rebooting the Virginmedia router? Rebooting my Hub3 often
> resolves issues.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
*Many* times! :-)
However, as I type I am using a Duet radio on a separate network segment
than the Boom, and its smooth as silk - not
ChaoticMike wrote:
> Hi bpa,
>
> I stopped the Squeezebox server (SBS) process, emptied the logs and
> restarted, followed by a connection to the R4 feed via the BBC iPlayer
> app. Dropouts continue, but there is nothing relevant being recorded in
> the SBS' error log. There's a warning
Hi bpa,
I stopped the Squeezebox server (SBS) process, emptied the logs and
restarted, followed by a connection to the R4 feed via the BBC iPlayer
app. Dropouts continue, but there is nothing relevant being recorded in
the SBS' error log. There's a warning about a missing Spotify token,
but I
timmoss501 wrote:
> I was hoping the FLAC trials would continue as well. Did anyone else
> notice they were running at around 1.2Mb/s - 1.3Mb/s whiuch is almost
> PCM bandwidth, can't help wondering whether they were encoding the sum &
> difference OS feed into FLAC then converting converting
ChaoticMike wrote:
> set up a ping to open.live.bbc.co.uk, on the assumption that that is
> where the data streams from.
Just to explain BBC setup and the ping result is not meaningful
BBC makes TV & Radio content and puts on their servers.
BBC have outsourced delivery of this content to
ChaoticMike wrote:
> it is dropping out and buffering
> the results of a ping looks like as follows: "64 bytes from
> bbc-vip096.lbh.bbc.co.uk (212.58.249.158): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=34.7
> ms"
> There are no recent 'long chunk fetch time' errors in the log, but the
> buffering remains a
Hello, BPA and all, the buffering issue I had last week is back, and (if
anything) worse. In a spirit of troubleshooting, I SSH-ed onto the pi
that runs my squeezeboxserver and set up a ping to open.live.bbc.co.uk,
on the assumption that that is where the data streams from.
During the time I
mrw wrote:
> Are *all* the BBCsounds URLs pointing us (eventually) at MP3s ?
A "bbcsounds" link only points to the programme's player page on the
Sounds site. The only MP3 resources in Sounds are files available for
download (i.e., podcasts). In a browser, you have to click through to
the
bpa wrote:
> Should be there now - not sure why the previous upload didn't stick.
> Maybe finger trouble rushing things (it's a bank holiday weekend here
> and real life is intruding).
>
> Many thanks for your super quick response, bpa, and on a bank holiday!
> All smiles again here. Great
Thanks bpa for getting the show on the road again. It is much
appreciated. Also thanks to mavit and others. I only occasionally use
the 'Latest' menu but anticipate that coming good too pretty soon.
Thanks again.
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