Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-10-09 Thread stevedresden
Finally found some time to look at this. As a test I went to edit a SQL Playlist in the SBS screen Once I click the edit button, it takes about 30 seconds before the edit screen appears During this time the main figure that shoots up is the %wa - which goes consistently to around 70%-80%. Onc

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-19 Thread stevedresden
Thanks - I'll do some digging and see how I get on. For info the database is on the SDHC card not on the disk. I have a 1TB disk formatted to NTFS with the music library on it. Is this optimal? I did wonder whether formatting the disk as EXT3 would have any noticeable effect. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-18 Thread erland
stevedresden wrote: > This is an interesting thread. > > I purchased Erlands plugins and I use Multi-Library, SQL Playlist and > Dynamic Playlist to manage a library of about 50,000 tracks > (multi-libray config has it split into two libraries with an > intersection of the two providing a third

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-18 Thread stevedresden
This is an interesting thread. I purchased Erlands plugins and I use Multi-Library, SQL Playlist and Dynamic Playlist to manage a library of about 50,000 tracks (multi-libray config has it split into two libraries with an intersection of the two providing a third library) I am on the last versio

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-16 Thread erland
batka wrote: > > Got a new Touch and for me it's lacking some basic customization > options. > I would think of the following features, can your plugins provide them? > a) "Now Playing" screen: > - When it's displaying the 3 lines, I want to include the Track number > in first line, before the T

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-16 Thread batka
Hi Erland, Got a new Touch and for me it's lacking some basic customization options. I would think of the following features, can your plugins provide them? a) "Now Playing" screen: - When it's displaying the 3 lines, I want to include the Track number in first line, before the Track title. (Beca

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-12 Thread erland
prabbit wrote: > > 4. I ran Database Query to look at how "healthy" my LMS/TrackStat > environment is. Frankly, according to the queries, it's not very > healthy. There are a lot of duplicates with musicbrainz IDs (919), there > are numerous TrackStat inconsistencies, and a couple of Custom Scan

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-12 Thread 05mattjax
erland wrote: > When that day comes I'll make sure there is a solution. > > In worst case you can manually specify your License Manager account > identity in the necessary configuration files, but my intention is to > provide a better solution than that before Logitech shutdown > mysqueezebox.co

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-11 Thread erland
05mattjax wrote: > Sorry to gate crash this thread but as it's active I though best to seek > advice here rather than starting a new thread. I have been using album > art for 30 day free trial and wish to purchase the licence. If > mysqueezebox.com goes down will the licence and album art still w

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-11 Thread 05mattjax
Sorry to gate crash this thread but as it's active I though best to seek advice here rather than starting a new thread. I have been using album art for 30 day free trial and wish to purchase the licence. If mysqueezebox.com goes down will the licence and album art still work? I say this because yo

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-10 Thread cparker
goharbourview123 wrote: > Perhaps this is also a matter of how TrackStat and Spicefly Sugarcube > play together? For clarity there is no interaction between SugarCube and TrackStat. Enabling the TrackStat option within SugarCube just informs SugarCube to look for the TrackStat table data within

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-09 Thread pallfreeman
prabbit wrote: > My system does have the RAM for it. OK. Ug understand now. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=961

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-09 Thread prabbit
pallfreeman wrote: > Increasing the cache size is (arguably) pointless if you don't have > enough physical memory for it. If you're already using virtual memory, > you don't. So I'm not quite sure how greater virtual memory helps with > performance. A faster drive, sure, but not a bigger paging s

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-09 Thread pallfreeman
prabbit wrote: > > 1. The 1 TB HDD allows for a greater virtual memory for the server, > which seems to help with performance. [...] > 2. I did increase the cache_size in SQLLiteHelper.pm like pallfreeman > suggested. That should help some. > Increasing the cache size is (arguably) pointless i

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-09 Thread prabbit
After the power surge I replaced the 80 Gb HDD with a 1 TB HDD. This allowed me to move my music from an external HDD to the internal HDD. I figured this would improve some operations. So, I moved the collection, cleared the LMS database, deleted all caches, rescanned my collection, reestored the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-09 Thread prabbit
sander wrote: > Adding more thread drift, albeit in a new direction, what do you gain > from the musicbrainz tags? I'm experimenting with the mirror sever for > stuff like jaikos, but I've found anything interesting in their tags. To be honest, so far nothing. I tried to use SugarCube (even boug

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-08 Thread sander
prabbit wrote: > I'll turn on the MusicBrainz option to get the restore done Adding more thread drift, albeit in a new direction, what do you gain from the musicbrainz tags? I'm experimenting with the mirror sever for stuff like jaikos, but I've found anything interesting in their tags. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread prabbit
erland wrote: > There are two options in TrackStat settings page which can be used to > disable the refresh operations after startup and rescan, there is > another one which you can use to disable musicbrainz_id support, it > might be worth a try to try to use these options before uninstalling it

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread JJZolx
pallfreeman wrote: > And yet a lot of people pay a lot of money to Big Iron vendors to buy it > and use it. Not to store music collections. > But a restore can take a long time and you're out of action while it > happens. > > If you've ever been screamed at by a pointyhead because your restor

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread garym
TheLastMan wrote: > I think keeping synchronised copies of critical data is underrated. Much > better than RAID and unlike "backup" does not need to be "restored" as > the data is instantly available and uncompressed. > > I use a little utility called "ViceVersa" to synchronise my music, > docum

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread TheLastMan
garym wrote: > There are lots of contexts where immediate access, no down time, > redundant storage is mission critical (banking, web commerce (e.g., > Amazon), air traffic control, etc.). Immediate access to one's music > collection is *not* mission critical. And I'd note that I've read lots >

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread pallfreeman
garym wrote: > Immediate access to one's music collection is *not* mission critical. That, my friend, surely depends on one's mission in life? :-) > > And I'd note that I've read lots of sob stories at the ReadyNas forums > where unfortunate users assumed that simply using RAID is an adequate

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread garym
pallfreeman wrote: > If you've ever been screamed at by a pointyhead because your restore is > taking a while, you get redundant storage. There are lots of contexts where immediate access, no down time, redundant storage is mission critical (banking, web commerce (e.g., Amazon), air traffic cont

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-07 Thread pallfreeman
JJZolx wrote: > Regular backup - yes. "Dedicated, redundant" storage - nearly worthless. And yet a lot of people pay a lot of money to Big Iron vendors to buy it and use it. Linux devs are rewriting ZFS just to change the license, and Microsoft are (as ever) stealing Sun's ideas and dumbing them

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread JJZolx
pallfreeman wrote: > Nobody in their right mind would trust 180K tracks to anything other > than dedicated, redundant storage with a regular backup. Regular backup - yes. "Dedicated, redundant" storage - nearly worthless.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
JJZolx wrote: > Performance is much closer using local storage, or accessing a share on > a Windows machine. Nobody in their right mind would trust 180K tracks to anything other than dedicated, redundant storage with a regular backup. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread JJZolx
sander wrote: > Look at the directory scanning: > > Windows XP VM reading SMB mapped drive: > Discovering files/directories: N:\Music (180735 of 180735) Complete > 02:08:30 > > Ubuntu 10.4 reading NFS mounted volume: > Discovering files/directories: /c/media/Music (180784 of 180784) >

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
sander wrote: > I really need to go back to Linux. No argument there. Do you ever see weird filenames using Windows mounts? Doesn't happen with NFS. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread sander
pallfreeman wrote: > If the comments in SQLiteHelper.pm are correct, dbhighmem changes the > cache from 2MB to 20MB. > Simply inserting a couple of 0s in there (cache_size = 2000 changed to > 20) allows the whole db to reside in memory. Easy unless you're > running Windows. Well I had an Ub

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread erland
prabbit wrote: > I'm going to uninstall TrackStat until a solution can be found. Let me > know if you need a beta tester for your ideas. > There are two options in TrackStat settings page which can be used to disable the refresh operations after startup and rescan, there is another one which you

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread prabbit
I'm going to uninstall TrackStat until a solution can be found. Let me know if you need a beta tester for your ideas. prabbit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11142 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread erland
prabbit wrote: > I sent you my log file via e-mail. It took an hour for TrackStat to > update urls in statistic data based on musicbrainz ids. > Thanks, it looks like it's the refresh query I suspected that's causing all the problems. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-06 Thread prabbit
erland wrote: > Sometime when you have the time, it would be great if you enabled debug > level logging on "plugin.trackstat" and "plugin.customscan" in LMS > Settings/Advanced/Logging and also select the "Save logging settings for > use at next application restart" and then restart LMS and send

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread pallfreeman
sander wrote: > It would be even better if there was a field where we could put a > parameter. I'll have to see if there's a bug... +2. But: First, it would be classed as an "enhancement", so immediately it's given low priority. Second, it involves adding a new preference. For some reason the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread sander
pallfreeman wrote: > With just the default plugins, 200K+ tracks occupy about half a gig. > There should be a "dbhugemem" pref. It would be even better if there was a field where we could put a parameter. I'll have to see if there's a bug...

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread erland
sander wrote: > Why should this make a difference? I chose Windows because of the > MusicIP stuff (1.9 beta goodies, compatible with 1.4 genpuid) maybe I > need to reconsider? I have thought the smb access to my nas could be an > issue as well, but my workstation is pretty fast. > Windows versio

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread sander
pallfreeman wrote: > Easy unless you're running Windows. Why should this make a difference? I chose Windows because of the MusicIP stuff (1.9 beta goodies, compatible with 1.4 genpuid) maybe I need to reconsider? I have thought the smb access to my nas could be an issue as well, but my workstat

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread pallfreeman
sander wrote: > It also seems there are no other changes that can be made to sqlite > which will help along the same line as moonbase's tweaks to mysql. If the comments in SQLiteHelper.pm are correct, dbhighmem changes the cache from 2MB to 20MB. Simply inserting a couple of 0s in there (cache_

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-05 Thread sander
I'm only using trackstat so that makes sense. I'm still exploring your plugins, but I was primarily interested in trackstat, dynamic playlists, and sugarcube (not your problem of course) so that's most of what I'm using. My problems so far are hard to attribute to anything specific, but I do think

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-04 Thread erland
sander wrote: > I can't believe I came across this thread. I'm going through the same > issue after parking at 7.3.4 for a couple of years with only > musicip/sugarcube on my readynas pro (low end dual-core x86), I've > recently moved to 7.7.2 and I'm going through the same growing pains. My > ol

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-04 Thread sander
I can't believe I came across this thread. I'm going through the same issue after parking at 7.3.4 for a couple of years with only musicip/sugarcube on my readynas pro (low end dual-core x86), I've recently moved to 7.7.2 and I'm going through the same growing pains. My old system had a couple of

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-04 Thread goharbourview123
I've also been having long start-up times with TrackStat (up to 20 minutes), and periodic pauses in playback with the server apparently unavailable (I think caused by Spicefly Sugarcube's interaction with TrackStat). Initially, I'd taken to disabling "Refresh on Startup" as a way around this, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-03 Thread prabbit
pallfreeman wrote: > Just a thought: do you have dbhighmem enabled? > (Settings->Advanced->Performance) Yes. prabbit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11142 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-03 Thread pallfreeman
prabbit wrote: > My LMS server is running on a Mac Mini 1.83 Ghz Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of > RAM. Right now any scan or server start up takes at least an hour. Just a thought: do you have dbhighmem enabled? (Settings->Advanced->Performance) ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-03 Thread prabbit
The culprit is Trackstat. More specifically I think it is TrackStat and Musicbrainz IDs. I removed the plugins in this order: Custom Scan, Multi Library, TrackStat. After removing Custom Scan and Multi Library it still took about one hour to start up the server. After removing TrackStat it was abo

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-03 Thread erland
prabbit wrote: > This thread gives me something to look into. I only have ~21,000 tracks, > but I use many of Erland's plugins (Multi Library, Custom Scan, > TrackStat), and while playing songs is fine, the database queries are > dreadfully slow. I'm actually in the process right now of trying to

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-09-03 Thread prabbit
This thread gives me something to look into. I only have ~21,000 tracks, but I use many of Erland's plugins (Multi Library, Custom Scan, TrackStat), and while playing songs is fine, the database queries are dreadfully slow. I'm actually in the process right now of trying to figure out which plugin

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-22 Thread davidfox2116
lrossouw wrote: > I had a PC loaded XP as my server. The hardware was (and is) dying a > slow death. Some mmemory modules died and I was left with 1GB. > Something else went wrong (can't remember what) and I decided to switch > to Ubuntu on this machine. This is my first Linux experience. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-22 Thread lrossouw
I had a PC loaded XP as my server. The hardware was (and is) dying a slow death. Some mmemory modules died and I was left with 1GB. Something else went wrong (can't remember what) and I decided to switch to Ubuntu on this machine. This is my first Linux experience. I do believe that the Squee

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-21 Thread vagskal
> The point is if you are working with a relatively low-memory > underpowered machine, a hardware upgrade (particularly, a memory > upgrade) may yield substantial results in Custom Browse performance. Thanks. Yes, I got your point. Since I already have a Win XP PC with rater decent specs, a fairl

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-21 Thread davidfox2116
vagskal wrote: > Thanks for sharing. > > Just to be sure I understand: Vortex Box runs under Unix and you are > using Unix in the new setup, not Win 7? (Sorry if this is a basic > question, but I have not used Vortex Box. I thought it was a Linux build > of some kind incorporating LMS.) Vortexb

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-21 Thread vagskal
Thanks for sharing. Just to be sure I understand: Vortex Box runs under Unix and you are using Unix in the new setup, not Win 7? (Sorry if this is a basic question, but I have not used Vortex Box. I thought it was a Linux build of some kind incorporating LMS.) --

[SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements

2012-08-21 Thread davidfox2116
I have been an extremely satisfied VortexBox Appliance (VBA) owner since December 2009. In that time I've built an extensive music library while modifying both the hardware and software of my machine incrementally over the years. I've succeeded in converting several friends into avid VB enthusi