Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/5/4, Claudio Jeker : > Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all > the other 13 standard fonts in good hinted truetype or similar form and > the hack would go away imediatly. Until then we need to substitue the http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 11:34:04PM -0500, Abel Camarillo said that > > as "some random person on the mailing list" you sure insulted me > > more times than i can remember. in my country that kind of trash > > talk implies you stand up to your words. man enough to say it into > > my eyes? hm

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Abel Camarillo
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:03:50AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > I don't have to bring up any good reasons for some random person on > > the mailing lists feels "entitled". > > this approach is broken. > > "some random p

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > I don't have to bring up any good reasons for some random person on > the mailing lists feels "entitled". this approach is broken. "some random person on the mailing list" slash ocasional contributor slash bug reporter slash

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:58:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > if an application is broken, fix it or make a cludge in the package. > > > this is the ports approach. > > > > where's the diffs? > > the diffs in the tree, only in the wrong directory. > just put it in your home or in

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:58:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > if an application is broken, fix it or make a cludge in the package. > > this is the ports approach. > > where's the diffs? the diffs in the tree, only in the wrong directory. just put it in your home or install the (omg)

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Steve Shockley
On 5/4/2009 2:12 PM, frantisek holop wrote: now i will have to override an override to get the expected behaviour. What's the expected behavior when you have both msttcorefonts and liberation-fonts installed?

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:18:59PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that > > Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all > > i am not blaming anyone. but the whole system is being changed > because one application is misbehaving. it is not making a > whole class of pr

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:18:59PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that > Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all i am not blaming anyone. but the whole system is being changed because one application is misbehaving. it is not making a whole class of problems go aw

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:26PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:47:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > > > well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? > > > >

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:47:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > > well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? > > > > > > I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. > > >

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? > > > > I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. > > i did not realize openbsd was developed for firefox. > what i was trying to say,

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? > > I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. i did not realize openbsd was developed for firefox. what i was trying to say, why should i

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that > > You want the msttcorefonts ? install them... True, adding a fonts.conf > > snippet when you install them so they get used would make sense. > > if anything, openbsd should package a fonts.conf with the firefox > package inst

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. > now i will have to override an override to get the expected > behaviour. since when is openbsd firefox's bitch? Your attitude is not very nice.

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that > You want the msttcorefonts ? install them... True, adding a fonts.conf > snippet when you install them so they get used would make sense. if anything, openbsd should package a fonts.conf with the firefox package instead. and st

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 11:36:18AM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that > > > They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, > > > even though these basically ARE NOT open source. > > > > if i am not mista

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that > > They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, > > even though these basically ARE NOT open source. > > if i am not mistaken generic names like "times", "helvetica", > "courier", etc are used by more fo

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Marc Espie said that > They assume you will always have the microsoft core fonts installed, > even though these basically ARE NOT open source. if i am not mistaken generic names like "times", "helvetica", "courier", etc are used by more foundries, not

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > > One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the > > /x11/msttcorefonts port. See > > > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124141462930332 > > > > Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:45:16PM +0200, Tim van der Molen wrote: > On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > > One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the > > /x11/msttcorefonts port. See > > > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124141462930332 > >

Re: msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-04 Thread Tim van der Molen
On Mon, 04 May 2009 07:31:39 +0200, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the > /x11/msttcorefonts port. See > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124141462930332 > > Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration file is > dis

msttcorefonts fontconfig workaround

2009-05-03 Thread Matthew Szudzik
One of the xenocara font configuration files is interfering with the /x11/msttcorefonts port. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124141462930332 Perhaps the port should be updated, so that the configuration file is disabled when the port is installed.