Mailer-Daemon Domain Part

2018-10-25 Thread McFly86
Hi, I'm not sure if i got myself confused but here is what I'd like/have to achieve: If an internal user is sending an email and postfix receives a bounce, the Mailer-daemon should have the hostname as domain part. I know that I can use $myhostname to set $myorigin for that. But I'm not sure if

Re: OT: Sender header vs DKIM

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
Richard James Salts writes: > This is still leading to the postfix mailing list failing DKIM once > it's added a Sender header for owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org. Should > I stop oversigning the Sender header? Signing the following headers works for me and does not break DKIM: Autocrypt, From,

Re: OT: Sender header vs DKIM

2018-10-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 25, 2018 10:56:53 PM UTC, Richard James Salts wrote: >Hi all, > >This is offtopic in regards to postfix but I bring it up because of the >last >few emails I've sent to the postfix mailing list. > >I was originally signing all the headers mentioned in rfc6376 section >5.4,

Re: OT: Sender header vs DKIM

2018-10-25 Thread Wietse Venema
Richard James Salts: > Hi all, > > This is offtopic in regards to postfix but I bring it up because of the last > few emails I've sent to the postfix mailing list. > > I was originally signing all the headers mentioned in rfc6376 section 5.4, > whether they existed or not and mails to postfix

OT: Sender header vs DKIM

2018-10-25 Thread Richard James Salts
Hi all, This is offtopic in regards to postfix but I bring it up because of the last few emails I've sent to the postfix mailing list. I was originally signing all the headers mentioned in rfc6376 section 5.4, whether they existed or not and mails to postfix mailing list failed because of

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread @lbutlr
On 25 Oct 2018, at 05:11, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, It is not mine, but thanks for playing. -- So now you know the words to our song, pretty soon you'll all be singing along, when you're sad, when you're lonely and it all turns out

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread @lbutlr
On Oct 25, 2018, at 15:04, @lbutlr wrote: > Authentication port 25 is often simply opportunistic Sorry. I meant to type encryption, not authentication. -- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread @lbutlr
On Oct 25, 2018, at 06:08, Thomas Bourdon wrote: > > My goal : All auth connections must be done with tlsv1.2 minimum. Others > connections can be done with tlsv1.0 minimum. This is fine. Authentication port 25 is often simply opportunistic and does not imply identify, only securing the data

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Wietse Venema
Thomas Bourdon: > Hi, > > First of all, I apologize for my bad english. > > I use postfix-3.3.1 and openssl-1.0.2. > > Actual ssl config : tlsv1.0 minimum is set for smtp and smtpd. tlsv1.2 > minimum is set for submission/starttls. > > My goal : All auth connections must be done with tlsv1.2

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 18:55, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Best to let it go, and just comment that the conclusions or advice are > not universally applicable. I could, and usually do, but in this instance I deliberately chose not to. Best to let it go. ;-) -Ralph

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ralph Seichter > wrote: > > Possibly, but *I* think that I've about had it with people stating their > personal beliefs as facts, especially when my own experience shows that > things are quite different where I am standing. In my opinion the OP did > not merit

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread John Stoffel
> "Daniel" == Daniel Ryšlink writes: Daniel> | You disable cleartext SMTP as well? Daniel> The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure Daniel> protocols, one provides an illusion of security, which is Daniel> potentially more dangerous than transparently refuse, and fall

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 17:23, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > I think there's probably a more appropriate way to disagree. Possibly, but *I* think that I've about had it with people stating their personal beliefs as facts, especially when my own experience shows that things are quite different where I am

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:11 AM, Ralph Seichter > wrote: > > On 25.10.18 00:44, @lbutlr wrote: > >> TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running >> v1 or v1.1. At all. > > Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, > there's a good chap. I

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Bastien Durel
Le jeudi 25 octobre 2018 à 15:31 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit : > maybe port 465 was originally taken (by microsoft, btw) for server- > to-server > smtp over ssl, but I think I ever saw anyone using it as such. > > for now, many companies use port 465 as authenticated submission-only >

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Thomas Bourdon
Thank you guys to explain me how works smtp<->smtp. I set up tlsv1.0 minimum for smtp<->smtp and tlsv1.2 minimum for auth connections, it seems working. :) Thanks again ! Le 25.10.2018 15:10, B. Reino a écrit : On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Because mail providers send mail to my

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Is there a way to allow tlsv1.0 minimum for unauth connection and allow tlsv1.2 minimum for auth connection on port 465 ? Le 25.10.2018 15:00, B. Reino a écrit : Why would you want unauthenticated connections on port 465? (smtps). It's AFAIK a

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:11:35AM +0200, Poliman - Serwis wrote: Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software used by spammers will only ever try the highest-priority MX. How to do this? On

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread B. Reino
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Because mail providers send mail to my smtp server through this port, don't they ? Le 25.10.2018 15:00, B. Reino a écrit : On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Is there a way to allow tlsv1.0 minimum for unauth connection and allow tlsv1.2

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Thomas Bourdon
Because mail providers send mail to my smtp server through this port, don't they ? Le 25.10.2018 15:00, B. Reino a écrit : On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Is there a way to allow tlsv1.0 minimum for unauth connection and allow tlsv1.2 minimum for auth connection on port 465 ?

Re: TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread B. Reino
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Thomas Bourdon wrote: Is there a way to allow tlsv1.0 minimum for unauth connection and allow tlsv1.2 minimum for auth connection on port 465 ? Why would you want unauthenticated connections on port 465? (smtps). It's AFAIK a submission port.

TLSv1.2 only for auth connection

2018-10-25 Thread Thomas Bourdon
Hi, First of all, I apologize for my bad english. I use postfix-3.3.1 and openssl-1.0.2. Actual ssl config : tlsv1.0 minimum is set for smtp and smtpd. tlsv1.2 minimum is set for submission/starttls. My goal : All auth connections must be done with tlsv1.2 minimum. Others connections can

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Allen Coates
On 25/10/18 11:12, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >> On Oct 25, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Allen Coates wrote: >> >> There are some anti-spam projects which offer MXes for your use. >> You set one up with the LOWEST prioity (your "MX of last resort"); If a >> message reaches it, the MX will collect stats >>

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 00:44, @lbutlr wrote: > TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running > v1 or v1.1. At all. Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, there's a good chap. -Ralph

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Miwa Susumu skrev den 2018-10-25 07:22: client <-> postfix <-> o365 s23_srvr.c said error message, so Is postfix working as a server? Is the problem occurring in 'client <-> postfix' communication? could it be that o365 still uses sslv3 ? logs please if openssl is compiled with sslv2 and

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2018-10-25 10:29: # postconf -d |grep tls|grep proto lmtp_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 lmtp_tls_protocols = !SSLv2 smtp_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 smtp_tls_protocols = !SSLv2 smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 smtpd_tls_protocols

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Allen Coates wrote: > > There are some anti-spam projects which offer MXes for your use. > You set one up with the LOWEST prioity (your "MX of last resort"); If a > message reaches it, the MX will collect stats > and then return a TEMPFAIL. I can't recommend this

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Allen Coates
On 25/10/18 07:33, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:11:35AM +0200, Poliman - Serwis wrote: > >> Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a >> well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software >> used by spammers will only

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 4:26 AM, Daniel Ryšlink wrote: > > The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure protocols, one > provides an illusion of security, which is potentially more dangerous than > transparently refuse, and fall back to plaintext delivery to preserve the >

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable TLSv1 in my server, warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Daniel Ryšlink
| You disable cleartext SMTP as well? The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure protocols, one provides an illusion of security, which is potentially more dangerous than transparently refuse, and fall back to plaintext delivery to preserve the functionality (which can create

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.10.18 08:11, Poliman - Serwis wrote: Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software used by spammers will only ever try the highest-priority MX. How to do this? it will also delay the mail

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: >Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my >server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable >TLSv1 in my server, > >warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Poliman - Serwis
2018-10-25 8:33 GMT+02:00 Viktor Dukhovni : > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:11:35AM +0200, Poliman - Serwis wrote: > > > Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a > > well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software > > used by spammers will only

Re: how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:11:35AM +0200, Poliman - Serwis wrote: > Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a > well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software > used by spammers will only ever try the highest-priority MX. How to do this? No.

how set postfix server as non-functional

2018-10-25 Thread Poliman - Serwis
Hi. I heard that having a non-functional server as the primary MX is a well-known trick to reduce the amount of incoming spam, as most software used by spammers will only ever try the highest-priority MX. How to do this? -- *Pozdrawiam / Best Regards* *Piotr Bracha*