Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-08-15 01:06, Lauren R wrote: so for server to server use, we should deploy starttls on port 25? yes port 465, 587 is need password

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread Lauren R
Thank you @raf. We were using the certs from a commercial CA, not the free one. On 2021/8/15 8:05 上午, raf wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 09:37:17AM +1000, raf wrote: I recommend using a CA-approved certificate like LetsEncrypt just because Postfix will use the same certificate for

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread raf
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 09:37:17AM +1000, raf wrote: > I recommend using a CA-approved certificate like > LetsEncrypt just because Postfix will use the same > certificate for submissions on port 587, and mail > clients (like Thunderbird) might complain if a > self-signed certificate is used in

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread raf
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 07:06:06AM +0800, Lauren R wrote: > On 2021/8/15 7:04 上午, raf wrote: > > So "smtps" is dead. Long live "submissions". > > > > But it isn't for server-to-server use. > > so for server to server use, we should deploy starttls on port 25? > > thanks > Lauren Yes. Once you

Re: Has rfc2487 been obsoleted and mandatory TLS in smtpd is now kosher?

2021-08-14 Thread raf
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 10:47:08AM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2021, at 1:15 am, raf wrote: > > > > According to the hardenize.com security bingo site, > > they get a green box for their mail server TLS, even > > though they support TLSv1.0 (yellow), because they > > don't

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread Lauren R
so for server to server use, we should deploy starttls on port 25? thanks Lauren On 2021/8/15 7:04 上午, raf wrote: So "smtps" is dead. Long live "submissions". But it isn't for server-to-server use.

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread raf
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 02:43:29PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > - dedicated port for smtp/ssl was deprecated (in fact never standrdized) I think that used to be true, but they had a rethink. This proposed standard (Jan 2018) indicates so: 3.3. Implicit TLS for SMTP Submission

Re: ALPACA writeup

2021-08-14 Thread @lbutlr
> On 2021 Aug 14, at 12:27, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:54:12AM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > >> On 10 Aug 2021, at 17:48, raf wrote: >>> Note: I'm not recommending this. I expect that the existing default >>> has been arrived at after much observation and careful

Re: ALPACA writeup

2021-08-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:54:12AM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 10 Aug 2021, at 17:48, raf wrote: > > Note: I'm not recommending this. I expect that the existing default > > has been arrived at after much observation and careful thought. > > But the option to do this is there if that's what you

Re: ALPACA writeup

2021-08-14 Thread @lbutlr
On 10 Aug 2021, at 17:48, raf wrote: > Note: I'm not recommending this. I expect that the existing default > has been arrived at after much observation and careful thought. > But the option to do this is there if that's what you want. It may be worth testing, as the setting may date from days in

Re: Has rfc2487 been obsoleted and mandatory TLS in smtpd is now kosher?

2021-08-14 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On 14 Aug 2021, at 1:15 am, raf wrote: > > According to the hardenize.com security bingo site, > they get a green box for their mail server TLS, even > though they support TLSv1.0 (yellow), because they > don't support anonymous ciphers (red). If they were > supporting anonymous ciphers, it

Re: How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.08.21 20:39, Lauren R wrote: I have installed postfix on the ubuntu system, SSL port is enabled. How can I force the other mail systems such as gmail to send messages to my postfix via only SSL port? you can't: - dedicated port for smtp/ssl was deprecated (in fact never standrdized) -

How to force remote deliver agent to send messages via SSL only

2021-08-14 Thread Lauren R
Hi, I have installed postfix on the ubuntu system, SSL port is enabled. How can I force the other mail systems such as gmail to send messages to my postfix via only SSL port? Thanks.

Re: will this break DMARC?

2021-08-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2021-08-14 01:22, Ken N wrote: Yes I agree. On 14.08.21 01:39, Benny Pedersen wrote: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=purpleemail.com; s=x; h= headers oversigned headers that dont exits to validators breaks dkim they don't. imho some

Re: will this break DMARC?

2021-08-14 Thread raf
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 04:56:33AM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2021, at 12:54 am, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > > > its then impossible to verify if there ever was an extra header or = > not, this still make it less strong, it does not more secure or not with = > that feature > >