Re: Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-29 Thread Chip
ource code. Someone wrote: "Return-path is a header added by the receiving MTA (usually on final delivery) that contains the envelope sender (MAIL FROM) used by the sending system. On 06/29/2016 11:22 AM, Jan Ceuleers wrote: On 29/06/16 17:02, Chip wrote: If Return-path is added by receiving

Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-29 Thread Chip
: <sears2.5...@envfrm.rsys2.com> From: "Sears" <se...@value.sears.com> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: <bar...@restaurantloot.com> From: lucky <lu...@restaurantloot.com> On 06/29/2016 10:50 AM, Kris Deugau wrote: Ch

Re: Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-28 Thread Chip
My mistake NOT "bounces-to" rather "return-path" as in the following snippet of campaign emails from Home Depot, Martha Stewart and Sears: From - Mon Jun 20 08:43:03 2016 X-Account-Key: account15 X-UIDL: UID1962-1324328699 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys:

Re: Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-28 Thread Chip
-to rather than reply-to. After all, why have the field at all if it's not used properly. On 06/28/2016 01:51 PM, Noel Jones wrote: On 6/28/2016 12:12 PM, Chip wrote: Meaning there are no standards for the way emailers should respond to bounces? bounces always go to the envelope sender

Re: Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-28 Thread Chip
Okay I guess it does. Meaning there are no standards for the way emailers should respond to bounces? On 06/28/2016 12:54 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Chip: I know this question is not specifically germane to Postfix but everyone on this list has extensive experience with bouncing policies

Is not honoring bounces-to violation of RFC?

2016-06-28 Thread Chip
I know this question is not specifically germane to Postfix but everyone on this list has extensive experience with bouncing policies. If a receiver of campaign emails (that promotes itself as an email security service) sends bounces to "reply-to" rather than "bounces-to" as a policy despite

Re: DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
- was it SPF and/or DKIM compliant and if so, add the friggin' header so the MDA can decide on that and only that element. Am I right here? On 06/26/2016 11:37 PM, Peter wrote: On 27/06/16 08:44, Chip wrote: John Doe receives email at john...@abc.com. He is ONLY to receive email that is fully DKIM

Re: DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
it, doing the subject line rewrite to indicate SPF/DKIM failure is the best approach. ‎You could even run a rule on the very simple email clients found on phones, or just use your eyeballs. *From: *Chip *Sent: *Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:25 PM *To: *li...@lazygranch.com *Reply To: *jeffsch...@gma

Re: DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
with condition test "!(sylpheed-spf.pl -c < %F)" On 06/26/2016 10:13 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: ‎I'd say you are onto something. http://www.willamowius.de/claws-spf.html ‎Unfortunately SPF has a very high failure rate due to remailers. But it's a start. *From: *Chip *Sent: *Su

Re: DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
n I suggested a plugin for CLAWS email client to check DKIM and SPF, the silence was deafening. Original Message From: Chip Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 4:41 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org <mailto:postfix-users@postfix.org> Reply To: jeffsch...@gmail.com <mailto:je

Re: DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
Thanks, So it just may be easier to deliver all messages to a folder then have a cron job run some spf/dkim checking script against the emails. On 06/26/2016 05:53 PM, Bill Cole wrote: On 26 Jun 2016, at 16:44, Chip wrote: I'm wondering if Postfix can do the following easily. Nope

DKIM/SPF failure to folder, not return to sender and other tricks

2016-06-26 Thread Chip
I'm wondering if Postfix can do the following easily. It's a real dog to get this setup in Exim. Here is the scenario. John Doe receives email at john...@abc.com. He is ONLY to receive email that is fully DKIM and/or SPF compliant from anyone at the xyz.com company. Sometimes people send