Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread @lbutlr
On 25 Oct 2018, at 05:11, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, It is not mine, but thanks for playing. -- So now you know the words to our song, pretty soon you'll all be singing along, when you're sad, when you're lonely and it all turns out

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 18:55, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Best to let it go, and just comment that the conclusions or advice are > not universally applicable. I could, and usually do, but in this instance I deliberately chose not to. Best to let it go. ;-) -Ralph

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ralph Seichter > wrote: > > Possibly, but *I* think that I've about had it with people stating their > personal beliefs as facts, especially when my own experience shows that > things are quite different where I am standing. In my opinion the OP did > not merit me

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread John Stoffel
> "Daniel" == Daniel Ryšlink writes: Daniel> | You disable cleartext SMTP as well? Daniel> The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure Daniel> protocols, one provides an illusion of security, which is Daniel> potentially more dangerous than transparently refuse, and fall Daniel

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 17:23, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > I think there's probably a more appropriate way to disagree. Possibly, but *I* think that I've about had it with people stating their personal beliefs as facts, especially when my own experience shows that things are quite different where I am standing.

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:11 AM, Ralph Seichter > wrote: > > On 25.10.18 00:44, @lbutlr wrote: > >> TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running >> v1 or v1.1. At all. > > Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, > there's a good chap. I thin

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 25.10.18 00:44, @lbutlr wrote: > TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running > v1 or v1.1. At all. Please don't try to spread your personal misjudgement as gospel, there's a good chap. -Ralph

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Miwa Susumu skrev den 2018-10-25 07:22: client <-> postfix <-> o365 s23_srvr.c said error message, so Is postfix working as a server? Is the problem occurring in 'client <-> postfix' communication? could it be that o365 still uses sslv3 ? logs please if openssl is compiled with sslv2 and ssl

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2018-10-25 10:29: # postconf -d |grep tls|grep proto lmtp_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 lmtp_tls_protocols = !SSLv2 smtp_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 smtp_tls_protocols = !SSLv2 smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1 smtpd_tls_protocols =

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 4:26 AM, Daniel Ryšlink wrote: > > The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure protocols, one > provides an illusion of security, which is potentially more dangerous than > transparently refuse, and fall back to plaintext delivery to preserve the > functi

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable TLSv1 in my server, warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown pro

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Daniel Ryšlink
| You disable cleartext SMTP as well? The rationale here is that by accepting provenly insecure protocols, one provides an illusion of security, which is potentially more dangerous than transparently refuse, and fall back to plaintext delivery to preserve the functionality (which can create an

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: >Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my >server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable >TLSv1 in my server, > >warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL >routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknow

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 04:44:19PM -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On Oct 24, 2018, at 09:19, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > do not disable tlsv1 > I couldn’t disagree more. TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no > reason to be running v1 or v1.1. At all. You disable cleartext SMTP as well? Bast

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Miwa Susumu
Hi 2018年10月24日(水) 20:28 Burn Zero : > Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my server, > my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable TLSv1 in my > server, > > warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL > routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HEL

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Bill Cole
On 24 Oct 2018, at 18:44, @lbutlr wrote: On Oct 24, 2018, at 09:19, Benny Pedersen wrote: do not disable tlsv1 I couldn’t disagree more. TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running v1 or v1.1. At all. Well, you can say that, but... # grep 'TLS connection estab

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread micah anderson
"@lbutlr" writes: > On Oct 24, 2018, at 09:19, Benny Pedersen wrote: >> >> do not disable tlsv1 > > I couldn’t disagree more. TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no > reason to be running v1 or v1.1. At all. > > I’ve been running with TLSv1.2 only for over a year. How much email a

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
@lbutlr skrev den 2018-10-25 00:44: On Oct 24, 2018, at 09:19, Benny Pedersen wrote: do not disable tlsv1 I couldn’t disagree more. ditto here TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running v1 or v1.1. At all if openssl is last stable version, all problems is so

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread @lbutlr
On Oct 24, 2018, at 09:19, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > do not disable tlsv1 I couldn’t disagree more. TLSv1.2 has been out for a decade and there is no reason to be running v1 or v1.1. At all. I’ve been running with TLSv1.2 only for over a year. -- This is my signature. There are many like it

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
Cleartext email is even more vulnerable than TLSv1. SMTP is not as exposed to the various CBC issues as is HTTP. There is no urgency to disable TLS1 in SMTP. It'll gradually fade away, but there's no need to explicitly disable it at present. > On Oct 24, 2018, at 4:25 PM, Daniel Ryšlink wrote:

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Daniel Ryšlink
> do not disable tlsv1 It was recommended to disable support of TLSv1.0 on 30th June 2018 at the latest, because it includes vulnerable ciphers. https://blog.pcisecuritystandards.org/are-you-ready-for-30-june-2018-sayin-goodbye-to-ssl-early-tls -- Best Regards, Daniel Ryšlink System Administr

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > My openssl version is OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013 > > Support for TLS 1.2 was added in OpenSSL 1.0.2. Apologies, I double-checked, and support for TLS 1.2 was in fact added in OpenSSL 1.0.1, so your OpenSSL library should h

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Richard
> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 17:50:46 +0530 > From: Burn Zero > > Hi, > > I use CentOS 6.5 The current release level of Centos 6 is .10. Centos 6.6 was released in early november 2014, so your system seems to have gone about 4 years without updates (security and otherwise). The curr

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 04:28:29PM +0530, Burn Zero wrote: > Currently my mail setup is using TLSv1 to connect to O365. Now that O365 > has announced dropping their support for TLSv1, TLSv1.1, how to enable > support for TLSv1.2 in postfix 2.8.2? > > My openssl version is OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
Burn Zero skrev den 2018-10-24 13:26: warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_srvr.c:578: its not a postfix question what is supported in openssl ssl is not tls do not disable tlsv1 if more help is needed show logs of smtp,

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Burn Zero
Hi, I use CentOS 6.5 On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:01 PM Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: > >Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my > >server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable > >TLSv1 in my server, > >

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.18 16:56, Burn Zero wrote: Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable TLSv1 in my server, warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown pro

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Burn Zero
Hi, Yea, I got it. But even with that configuration when I connect to my server, my server is still accepting connections in TLSv1. If I disable TLSv1 in my server, warning: TLS library problem: 21975:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_srvr.c:578: On Wed, Oc

Re: Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Petri Riihikallio
> smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = !SSLv2, !SSLv3 > smtpd_tls_protocols = !SSLv2, !SSLv3 > > But that doesn't work. Still the connection is established using TLSv1. Those are for smtpd or inbound connections. For outbound to O365 you need to look at smtp_ settings. -- br, Petri https://metis.

Enabling TLSv1.2 support in postfix 2.8.2

2018-10-24 Thread Burn Zero
Hi, Currently my mail setup is using TLSv1 to connect to O365. Now that O365 has announced dropping their support for TLSv1, TLSv1.1, how to enable support for TLSv1.2 in postfix 2.8.2? My openssl version is OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013 It should also support TLSv1, TLSv1.1 for older clients