Re: Please end - Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Robert Moskowitz skrev den 2013-01-13 19:49: I did take this off list to Wietse, but it is worst than you make it out to. It can even vary by sender to a list. reply-all in roundcube sends ONLY to maillist not private while reply ONLY reply private why cant all others copy that ? :)

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/12/13 9:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and that is the really sad thing of this thread the subject is about REPLY-TO headers but WTF - there is NO reply-to header at all reply goes back to the sender while it would go back to the list if the messages WOULD contain Reoly-To so if your

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Wietse Venema
I am surprised by all the apologetic replies about mailing lists, when Reply-To: is in fact standardized for more than 30 years, and it has nothing to do with mailing lists. Wietse Citing from RFC 5322 section 3.6.2 (published 2008): When the Reply-To: field is present, it indicates

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:41:26AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: I am surprised by all the apologetic replies about mailing lists, when Reply-To: is in fact standardized for more than 30 years, and it has nothing to do with mailing lists. Furthermore, way upthread the original request was to

Please end - Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I did take this off list to Wietse, but it is worst than you make it out to. It can even vary by sender to a list. I apologize, a little for top posting. Another deadly list sin, but I did not want this buried all the way at the end. This message from Harald, if I reply to sender it goes

Reply-to-list function is broken - Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/12/2013 04:35 PM, Peter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/01/13 06:15, Reindl Harald wrote: i DO want supress duplicates it works on a lower level - dbmail i am receiving around 500 mails per day with duplicates still supressed so i do not need them too in a

Re: Reply-to-list function is broken - Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Speaking of broken, this thread exists because software ignores the Reply-To: header which was defined in RFC 822 30+ years ago, and which exists to this date in RFC 5322. So if you guys could file a bug report, that might help more than apologizing for user interface issues. Wietse

Re: Reply-to-list function is broken - Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/13/2013 02:15 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Speaking of broken, this thread exists because software ignores the Reply-To: header which was defined in RFC 822 30+ years ago, and which exists to this date in RFC 5322. So if you guys could file a bug report, that might help more than apologizing

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Richard Damon: On 1/11/13 9:51 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2013 14:49, schrieb Wietse Venema: Richard Damon: On 1/11/13 9:51 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 1/12/2013 7:49 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Richard Damon: On 1/11/13 9:51 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 11.01.2013 15:33, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same rules as everyone else. Sorry

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2013 15:18, schrieb Matthias Andree: Am 11.01.2013 15:33, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: I WILL work more at paying attention to what works here. Your headers reveal you are using Thunderbird; it can't be that hard to click List reply or whatever the button inscription translates to in

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 12-01-13 15:59, Reindl Harald wrote: but as said - there are a lot of mailing-lists out there which are configured by morons where this all does not work as it should or is destroyed because many users on other lists are doing permanently reply-all and if your server is configured like

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2013 17:45, schrieb Tom Hendrikx: On 12-01-13 15:59, Reindl Harald wrote: but as said - there are a lot of mailing-lists out there which are configured by morons where this all does not work as it should or is destroyed because many users on other lists are doing permanently

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Peter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/01/13 06:15, Reindl Harald wrote: i DO want supress duplicates it works on a lower level - dbmail i am receiving around 500 mails per day with duplicates still supressed so i do not need them too in a different folder to save two seconds

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2013 22:35, schrieb Peter: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/01/13 06:15, Reindl Harald wrote: i DO want supress duplicates it works on a lower level - dbmail i am receiving around 500 mails per day with duplicates still supressed so i do not need them too in

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/12/13 8:49 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Richard Damon: On 1/11/13 9:51 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
mean? grep of this message-source from the list does not contain any REPLY-TO headers to respect! [harry@srv-rhsoft:~/Desktop]$ cat source.txt | grep -i reply-to Subject: Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers In-Reply

Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same rules as everyone else. Wietse

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same rules as everyone else. Sorry about that last transmission. Your request would

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same rules as everyone else. Sorry about that last

Re: Learning how to respecth REPLY-TO headers

2013-01-11 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/11/13 9:51 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: On 01/11/2013 09:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert, please configure your mail reader to respect the REPLY-TO header. I have asked you this before, and I think I will ignore your email until you play by the same rules as everyone