FIXED: Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-24 Thread postfix
At 06:41 PM 2/23/2009, Rick Steeves wrote: So I would guess that how it should work is that it should be mail postfix amavisd expanding aliases delivery and vacation vacation response delivery ? Well, here at least is what seems to fix is based on all the guidance I've received. With

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-24 Thread mouss
post...@corwyn.net a écrit : [snip] 1- explain in _detail_ how mail reaches your vacation script. That presumes I know :-) but I'll give it a try. When a user is on vacation, they have an table entry in mysql, and an additional alias that is something like:

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-23 Thread postfix
The problem still: users on vacation generate auto-response to incoming email id'd as spam. I use a recipient_delimiter and amavisd/spamassassin to flad incoming mail as spam with +Spam. I'd really like to stop this to avoid backscatter issues, be a good netizen, and not validate addresses

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-23 Thread mouss
post...@corwyn.net a écrit : The problem still: users on vacation generate auto-response to incoming email id'd as spam. I use a recipient_delimiter and amavisd/spamassassin to flad incoming mail as spam with +Spam. I'd really like to stop this to avoid backscatter issues, be a good

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-23 Thread postfix
Ok, having pulled out all of the recipient_delimiter values (main.cf and amavisd.conf), and not actually sending spam, I can pretty clearly see that postfix is handing the vacation.pl code two separate addresses, because vacation.pl runs twice. (The only reason I don't get two vacation

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-22 Thread mouss
post...@corwyn.net a écrit : At 01:57 PM 2/21/2009, mouss wrote: post...@corwyn.net a écrit : Alternatively, change your delivery config so that mail to *+s...@yourdomain.example uses a different delivery mechanism, one that doesn't call your vacation script. See, I knew there'd be a way

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-22 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/21/2009, post...@corwyn.net (post...@corwyn.net) wrote: I think our thought process is different. I have a technical thing I want to do (and understand in postfix). So it depends on how you define things as a problem. Fair enough, but the email subject and problem description were, why

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-21 Thread mouss
post...@corwyn.net a écrit : I'm currently using recipient_delimiter in main.cf and in amavisd.conf, so that inbound spam (as determined by spamassassin) adds +Spam to the recipient. I don't block any spam (it all gets delivered) so I don't have to administer quarantined spam.

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/21/2009, post...@corwyn.net (post...@corwyn.net) wrote: Alternatively, change your delivery config so that mail to *+s...@yourdomain.example uses a different delivery mechanism, one that doesn't call your vacation script. See, I knew there'd be a way in postfix. Can you provide a quick

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-21 Thread postfix
At 06:37 PM 2/21/2009, Charles Marcus wrote: Yes, but this is only a WORKAROUND. You should focus on fixing the PROBLEM. The PROBLEM is a vacation message is being sent when it shoudln't. I think our thought process is different. I have a technical thing I want to do (and understand in

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/20/2009, Charles Marcus (cmar...@media-brokers.com) wrote: Spam assassin sets the x-spam header on the way in. When it gets sent back out, it doesn't get spam headers added. And since it's a reply, the fact that spam headers were set set on the way in doesn't matter since those

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/20/2009 10:42 AM, post...@corwyn.net wrote: Let's try a different approach. Let's say a user, spamt...@example.com, sends mail to a user test...@example.com, which includes the GTUBE sting (guaranteed to make it flag as spam). test...@example.com has vacation turned on.

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-19 Thread postfix
Spam assassin is configured to not add spam headers to outbound mail, so that won't help. (I don't want to flag my own outbound mail as spam). There's not a way to get postfix to not deliver (reject/drop/whatever) messages based on the From address having an recipient_delimiter field that

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/19/2009 2:40 PM, post...@corwyn.net wrote: Spam assassin is configured to not add spam headers to outbound mail, so that won't help. (I don't want to flag my own outbound mail as spam). Eh? Who's talking about outbound email? Vacation.pl only executes for inbound mail. There's not a way

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-19 Thread postfix
At 03:16 PM 2/19/2009, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2/19/2009 2:40 PM, post...@corwyn.net wrote: I guess maybe I'm missing something, so I'll shut up now... When mail is inbound and is spam, it gets flagged as spam by spam assassin, and becomes addressed to , with recipient_delimiter,

Re: Prevent vacation autoreply for recipient_delimiter?

2009-02-19 Thread postfix
At 05:11 PM 2/19/2009, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2/19/2009, post...@corwyn.net (post...@corwyn.net) wrote: When mail is inbound and is spam, it gets flagged as spam by spam assassin, and becomes addressed to , with recipient_delimiter, user+s...@example.com Right... so just configure