> "Alice" == Alice Wonder writes:
Alice> On 2/7/19 2:52 PM, Bill Cole wrote:
Alice> *snip*
>>
>> But your core point is valid: mailing from an AWS instance (or from
>> anywhere on an IP with a programmatically derived PTR) in general is
>> going to work poorly. There is too little accounta
> On 06.02.19 02:42, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
I learned the hard way that if you don't set $myhostname to a FQDN
you can quickly end up on a black list despite having valid SPF
records.
>
> any evidence about this?
On 08.02.19 14:42, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
> > On 06.02.19 02:42, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
> I learned the hard way that if you don't set $myhostname to a FQDN
> you can quickly end up on a black list despite having valid SPF
> records.
> >
> > any evidence about this?
The host has both forward and reverse registe
On 2/7/19 2:52 PM, Bill Cole wrote:
*snip*
But your core point is valid: mailing from an AWS instance (or from
anywhere on an IP with a programmatically derived PTR) in general is
going to work poorly. There is too little accountability for abuse from
the AWS IP pool for it to merit a default
On 7 Feb 2019, at 14:09, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 06.02.19 02:42, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
I learned the hard way that if you don't set $myhostname to a FQDN
you
can quickly end up on a black list despite having valid SPF
records.
any evidence about this?
Returning to th
On 06.02.19 02:42, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
I learned the hard way that if you don't set $myhostname to a FQDN you
can quickly end up on a black list despite having valid SPF records.
any evidence about this?
Returning to the OP's question, Postfix does append $mydomain to the
auto
On 06/02/19 17:36, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
In Internet-connected SMTP (which is something like 99.9% of
installations) ... The number of people who run mail servers isolated
from the Internet is vanishingly small. Why cater to the oddball
environment where anything goes?
...
T
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 12:50 AM, Patton, Matthew [Contractor]
> wrote:
>
> By perverting the very definition of what is a hostname, Postfix [...]
Such a belligerent, indignant tone never endears an OP to the
project maintainers, and creates a strong disincentive to making
any effort to address th
> I repeat, you misunderstood the documentation. Postfix computes its best
> guess at the FQDN when you DO NOT *explicitly* set myhostname, in main.cf.
The issue is NOT that I wanted Postfix to willy-nilly mangle $myhostname into a
FQDN on my behalf. If there were a private keyword of $fqdn th
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Patton, Matthew [Contractor]
> wrote:
>
>> You misunderstood the documentation, the domain is only appended when
>> computing the *default* value
>
> No I didn't misunderstand the documentation. I provided both pieces of
> information via main.cf and I damn well
> If that's what you want, and you're setting myhostname explicitly, then it is
> your
> responsibility to do that. This allows users who do want dotless hostnames to
> have those if that's right for them.
In Internet-connected SMTP (which is something like 99.9% of installations)
if $myh
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 02:42:58AM +, Patton, Matthew [Contractor] wrote:
> > Returning to the OP's question, Postfix does append $mydomain to the
> > automatically derived value of $myhostname when the latter is not
> > explicitly set
> >
> > -
> Returning to the OP's question, Postfix does append $mydomain to the
> automatically derived value of $myhostname when the latter is not explicitly
> set
> in main.cf and is not fully qualified.
Except that it doesn't. (or I misunderstood what you wrote)
I set $myhostname = 'smtp'.
$mydomain w
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Wietse Venema wrote:
>
> If someone registers the domain 'foo', then that is a valid name,
> and they have right to use "helo foo", "mail from:user@foo", and
> so on.
>
> The problem is not sending helo without a dot, the problem is sending
> helo with a name that d
Patton, Matthew [Contractor]:
> I learned the hard way that if you don't set $myhostname to a FQDN
> you can quickly end up on a black list despite having valid SPF
> records. The documentation is IMO insufficiently clear that
> $myhostname MUST be fully qualified and that Postfix will NOT tack
>
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