Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-12 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-03-11 18:57, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 02:51 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote: I have never tried it in this particular setup, but way back in the day when I had MSX computers, I would hook up two computers to one (expensive!) SCSI HD, setting

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-11 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-03-10 19:52, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joost van de Griek wrote: Actually, it's not all that weird. Using a regular SCSI cable, the PowerBook would indeed see (and mount) all the Quadra's drives on the SCSI chain. However, the fact that both motherboard SCSI controllers

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-11 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 02:51 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 2003-03-10 19:52, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joost van de Griek wrote: Actually, it's not all that weird. Using a regular SCSI cable, the PowerBook would indeed see (and mount) all the Quadra's drives on

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
Joost van de Griek wrote: Actually, it's not all that weird. Using a regular SCSI cable, the PowerBook would indeed see (and mount) all the Quadra's drives on the SCSI chain. However, the fact that both motherboard SCSI controllers will be set to SCSI ID 7, would cause some serious ID

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-08 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Dan Palka wrote: Well thats what I was assuming :) I guess I've never actually used real SCSI disk mode in the way that it was meant to be then. Is the PowerBook supposed to boot into the OS completely normal and as if nothing was out of the

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-08 Thread David R.
Now they tell us But, in the 8 months I've had the 5300, I've used scsi disk mode about 6 times and never had any problems with a 4.5 gig drive. Yet again, I may not resort to using scsi disk mode again either. Dave -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-08 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2003-03-08 18:38, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Dan Palka wrote: Well thats what I was assuming :) I guess I've never actually used real SCSI disk mode in the way that it was meant to be then. Is the PowerBook supposed to boot into the OS

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-08 Thread Dan Palka
But, in the 8 months I've had the 5300, I've used scsi disk mode about 6 times and never had any problems with a 4.5 gig drive. I never had problems with the hard drive in the PowerBook either. Only the Quadra's hard drive reports errors for certain files, or certain files just completely

Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread jimwg
Greetings: Mac Mavens: Please, your input on this alert that I'd no idea of at http://eshop.macsales.com/Descriptions/Specs/applepbhdtechnote.pdf. Your recommendations of what to do if you've already bought your drives! Thank you, JimWG -- PowerBooks is sponsored

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
on 07/03/03 15:44, jimwg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Mac Mavens: Please, your input on this alert that I'd no idea of at http://eshop.macsales.com/Descriptions/Specs/applepbhdtechnote.pdf. Your recommendations of what to do if you've already bought your drives! Don't run your old

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread Roger Volk
Jim, I have 6 gB drives installed in my 3400's and have no problems because i don't use the machines in SCISI disk mode and thats the only mode that you have data scrambling problems. Roger jimwg wrote: Greetings: Mac Mavens: Please, your input on this alert that I'd no idea of

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread John Smith
Thanks, but you all are the experts! Can you instruct a rank amateur PB user how to switch off SCSI mode on his PB 190? Does this bug affect one's file sharing in any way? I was also wondering whether after all this time since 1998 if some sharp Mac hacker hasn't conjured up some solution.

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread palkasoft
Uh oh... I deleted the first post of this email because it didn't seem to really concern me and I wanted to keep my inbox clean. However its beginning to sound like it might explain my last week of terror between my Quadra 800 and PowerBook 190 which has a 5gb IDE hard drive in it. Ive been

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread John Smith
On 8/3/03 10:43 AM, palkasoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh oh... I deleted the first post of this email because it didn't seem to really concern me and I wanted to keep my inbox clean. However its beginning to sound like it might explain my last week of terror between my Quadra 800 and

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread jimwg
Subject: Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users Date: Fri, 7 Mar 03 17:43:42 -0600 From: palkasoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uh oh... I deleted the first post of this email because it didn't seem to really concern me and I wanted to keep my inbox clean. However its beginning to sound like it might

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 04:43 PM, palkasoft wrote: Uh oh... I deleted the first post of this email because it didn't seem to really concern me and I wanted to keep my inbox clean. However its beginning to sound like it might explain my last week of terror between my Quadra 800 and

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread Dan Palka
Well, least no more surprises I hope. Heh you have no idea how aggrivating it is to know that all of my problems over the last week could have been avoided. Just last night I was using SCSI disk mode on this thing and again it was giving me problems. When I read that article I thought

Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

2003-03-07 Thread Dan Palka
No. The link posted talks about I/O errors on the powerbook connected as disk mode. Moreover, the error only occurs when you try to read or write *beyond* the 4GB limit. I know this because as I read the link this morning. I was *successfully* installing OS 8.6 on a Powerbook 5300 with a 4.5