On 2005-05-06 16:15, Fluxstringer wrote:
Both ends of the chain get terminated
From the factory the HD is set at ID=0 Cd ID=3
Drives added are IDed at 1 or 2 or else the termination needs to be
moved to any ID beyond the CD.
That's the way it is.
Will you please stop spreading
Dan Palka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:13:42 -0500
How is this even possible???
and Fluxstringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] speculated:
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:58:03 -0400
From: Fluxstringer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macintosh HD Format My Guess
My guess is that PlusMaker
On 2005-05-05 4:22, Noah Wood wrote:
How can I change my HD Format from standard to extended by saving all my data,
or is this impossible.
No, it's not impossible. There was software called PlusMaker, back when HFS+
was new. You might be able to track down a copy. I'd still advise you to
back
On 2005-05-05 19:43, Fluxstringer wrote:
Termination needs to be at the end of the chain. From the factory
Termination is set at the CD drive at ID = 3 This becomes the
dependable end of the chain.
Now , the machine will still run with drives beyond this but signals
can act funny. And the
Right. The end of the chain depends on what is in the line of the SCSI
chain. For example, the motherboard is always a 7. You want the HD as close
to the motherboard as possible, or 6. This makes access for your most used
device just a little quicker.
Put your other devices at other IDs but
On 2005-05-06 14:29, Dave Foshee wrote:
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On 2005-05-05 19:43, Fluxstringer wrote:
Termination needs to be at the end of the chain. From the factory
Termination is set at the CD drive at ID = 3 This becomes the
On 2005-05-05 19:43, Fluxstringer wrote:
Termination needs to be at the end of the chain. From the factory
Termination is set at the CD drive at ID = 3 This becomes the
dependable end of the chain.
Now , the machine will still run with drives beyond this but signals
can act funny. And the
Right. The end of the chain depends on what is in the line of the SCSI
chain. For example, the motherboard is always a 7. You want the HD as close
to the motherboard as possible, or 6. This makes access for your most used
device just a little quicker.
Put your other devices at other IDs but
I appreciate that clarification. How can you have eight? The
motherboard is 7 and there are only 1-7 right?
Or is 0 one as well?
I wonder where the person that told me keep the HD closest to the
motherboard got that information? I'm pretty sure I've seen that
somewhere before too.
Hmm.
Dave
With some of my CD drives that I use on my 5300, I find that they only
work when I attach a pass-thru terminator on the CD. A regular
end-of-chain terminator doesn't seem to do much. Took a bit of
trial-and-error, but I can get it to work. :)
Later.Howard
I missed some early postings, it seems.
Dave: Which Mac are you trying to install on (incl. processor upgrade
etc.)? The only time I had such a message (saying that the computer
cannot start with the installer startup disk's OS) was when I tried to
startup a 040 powerbook with a PPC floppy.
With some of my CD drives that I use on my 5300, I find that they
only work when I attach a pass-thru terminator on the CD. A regular
end-of-chain terminator doesn't seem to do much. Took a bit of
trial-and-error, but I can get it to work. :)
Later.Howard
I always preferred the term SCSI Voodo.
Later.Howard
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I always preferred the term SCSI Voodo.
Later.Howard
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How is this even possible???
On May 5, 2005, at 7:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alsoft makes a nifty little $30 utility called PlusMaker which can
convert your drive without reformatting. I've used it on several
drives.
http://www.alsoft.com/PlusMaker/index.html
However, while I've never had a
How is this even possible???
On May 5, 2005, at 7:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alsoft makes a nifty little $30 utility called PlusMaker which can
convert your drive without reformatting. I've used it on several drives.
http://www.alsoft.com/PlusMaker/index.html
However, while I've never had a
I found out the hard way that some installation disks were designed to
work specifically for particular mac lines and not others. I had to find
full or retail versions to do my OS uploads.
Later.Howard
Computer n.
I've heard about that. Mine are full retail versions, yet the install
program itself still won't run.
Ever heard of that?
Dave
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I had to find
full or retail versions to do my OS uploads.
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On May 4, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Dave Foshee wrote:
Flux,
You would be surprised. I have not been able to install my system HD
on my
other computer. It gives me a message that is cryptic at best.
Something like: This program can not run on this computer. See
documentation
for further help.
Driving
Shh! (It isn't a powerbook.)
It is a 7100/80
136 RAM
266 Sonnet Upgrade card (I took it out for the install)
The worst part is that I can't find any documentation that covers
something I haven't already tried to do.
Good thing I have my, ahem, Powerbook!
Driving me crazy,
Dave
[EMAIL
Flux,
You would be surprised. I have not been able to install my system HD on my
other computer. It gives me a message that is cryptic at best.
Something like: This program can not run on this computer. See documentation
for further help.
Driving me nuts!
Dave
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From eBay my
I've heard about that. Mine are full retail versions, yet the install
program itself still won't run.
Ever heard of that?
Dave
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Does your system meet the hardware requirements?
If so and it still does not install something is definitely wrong.
Dirty disk? Damaged ?
Hardware card not
Some systems won't run some software, for example new boxes won't boot up in 9.
Mainly to do with hardware requirements, and some models do have
work-arounds. But then again, I have heard of people doing bonehead
things like trying to run OS X on a 6100, and getting seriously
pissed at Apple
I wish it was something as easy as that. I know that this will run. I had OS
9.1 on the machine, and before that I had 8.6 and even had 8.0 on it before
that. I want to put 8.5 on it so I can take advantage of the extended HFS.
Now it won't take any of them. I have even tried removing anything
Try booting from an OS disk and reformat the disk.
How old is this diak and could it be on it's last legs?
Connections on drive and cable clean (very) and tight on both ends?
all pins and holes?
A toothbrush and contact cleaner may help.
Other recent hardware changes? Push and hold the CUDA.
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Hope you want a challenge? This is it.
It is actually a 68 pin drive with a converter to 50 pin. It is not new, but
everything else works. I can install a program and run it on the drive. I
did drag over 8.0 and boot off of it.
I thought it might be the disk but I have cleaned it and I have
Damaged ribbon cable?
Can you used a continuity tester end to end on every pin placement?
Bad interface? SCSI? IDE/ATA ?
Do you have or can you borrow an external drive to connect to an
external bus and see if there is the same problem?
I forget can the drive be tried on another machine?
You
Oh, yeah. what about the converter? could it be toast?
ID set right? Termination on HD? Termination on CD ?
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I don't have another machine that accepts SCSI. I actually wiped the drive
completely. I want to sell the machine and need to put 8.5 on it so I wiped
it. Even did a low level format and zeroed it.
I don't have a way to check the pin placement. I know a lot about this mac
but never got into doing
Would the HD work if the converter was toast?
ID is set at 6 (closest to motherboard). This computer did work before I
reformatted the drive. I had ran 9.1 for 2 years straight, only an
occasional Norton diskdoctor run.
Pretty dependable machine. Since I did not change the termination, I don't
Would the HD work if the converter was toast?
ID is set at 6 (closest to motherboard). This computer did work before I
reformatted the drive. I had ran 9.1 for 2 years straight, only an
occasional Norton diskdoctor run.
Pretty dependable machine. Since I did not change the termination, I don't
Would the HD work if the converter was toast?
Possibly
Also plug and unplug cable at board end and drive end a dozen times
.Converter connectors to ( that makes three connections to do this to
) This should scratch through any tobacco smoke or other dirt
film that can invade any connector in
Noah Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I change my HD Format from standard to extended by saving all
my data, or is this impossible. I have a Power Book 1400/133 with a 1
GIG HD and OS 8.1 installed. Thanks!
The only tool of which I'm aware to directly convert HFS to HFS+ is
PlusMaker
Is there a way to create a partition on the fly in OS X? Maybe if I could
install OS 8.5 onto a partition then drag and drop it onto a CD and burn it
like that.
Would that work and how would I partition the HD?
I've got the room.
Dave
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Thanks that helped, but sometimes when I boot from the OS 8 CD the
Macintosh HD icon doesn't appear and as the famous saying goes...
Driving me crazy!
On 5/5/05, Fluxstringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try booting from an OS disk and reformat the disk.
How old is this diak and could it be on
Thanks that helped, but sometimes when I boot from the OS 8 CD the
Macintosh HD icon doesn't appear and as the famous saying goes...
Driving me crazy!
This problem is either way too obvious or way to mysterious.
And I don't know which.
It solution will be the last thing try on it !
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How can I change my HD Format from standard to extended by saving all
my data, or is this impossible. I have a Power Book 1400/133 with a 1
GIG HD and OS 8.1 installed. Thanks!
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Can you SCSI disk mode or ethernet to another Mac temporarily to
backup the
Alsoft makes a nifty little $30 utility called PlusMaker which can
convert your drive without reformatting. I've used it on several drives.
http://www.alsoft.com/PlusMaker/index.html
However, while I've never had a problem with PlusMaker, be sure to backup
your important files -- just in case
Noah,
The only way I know to do it is to either burn a copy or to copy it on to
another SCSI Drive and then port over all of your files.
I know you cannot reformat your HD without losing your information. Changing
from 8.1 to 8.5 or higher is a bear.
Hope this helps.
Dave
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How can I change my HD Format from standard to extended by saving all
my data, or is this impossible. I have a Power Book 1400/133 with a 1
GIG HD and OS 8.1 installed. Thanks!
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Can you SCSI disk mode or ethernet to another Mac temporarily to
backup the whole drive?
Changing from 8.1 to 8.5 or higher is a bear.
_
Naah!Not so hard at all. And I believe you still have the older
file system as an option.
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Flux,
You would be surprised. I have not been able to install my system HD on my
other computer. It gives me a message that is cryptic at best.
Something like: This program can not run on this computer. See documentation
for further help.
Driving me nuts!
Dave
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