Re: [OT] Santorum scares me

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Madigan
The problem with gays is that 70% of them voted for Obama.   The best thing about abortion is that it kills the babies of liberals.  From: Nicholas Geti To: ProFox Email List Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Santorum scares me Hah. You

Re: [OT] Santorum scares me

2012-03-05 Thread Nicholas Geti
Hah. You said it not me. Anyway, read the NYT article. Notice he starts frothing at the mouth whenever he talks about sexual issues and the 1960's. In any case I am for abortion and don't give a wit whether someone is gay or not. They have never interfered with me so I leave them alone. -

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:54 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Oh you mean like FoxPro was slammed by so many for bad projects and the > reason it got a bad reputation? Well, that's the other side of the coin. The big consulting companies target new, complex technologies and then proce

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/5/2012 5:43 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > >>> BINGO. Saw this at my last gig. Sad. Good people lost due to this >>> kind of incompetence. >> >> Tell me about it. I'm currently living that nightmare. I'm the only >> in-house developer left. > >

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: >> BINGO. Saw this at my last gig. Sad. Good people lost due to this >> kind of incompetence. > > Tell me about it. I'm currently living that nightmare. I'm the only > in-house developer left. That's why it's important to not blame the

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Fred Taylor
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2012 5:03 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > The more things change... > > > > Consultants who gouge customers is pretty much a given with any > segment of computing. I rememb

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/5/2012 5:03 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > The more things change... > > Consultants who gouge customers is pretty much a given with any segment > of computing. I remember a company I did some work for who wasted several > years and untold $$ with a consulting organization that promised t

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:49 AM, AndyD wrote: > I haven't heard what's > happened in the last 5 years or so but a quick Google shows they are > currently shedding nearly 20% of jobs including IT and 'embracing the > savings offered by cloud computing'. The more things change... Co

Re: [NF] A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to The Internet

2012-03-05 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > I navigate to www.woot.com every day.  Today it would not load... It is clear: the Woot gods were punishing you. You will have to appease them before any Bag of Crap shall come your way. Ken ___ Po

[OT] those little robot helicopters you see in mall shops playing james bond

2012-03-05 Thread kamcginnis
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Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:34 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> >> As one of those developers who have replaced desktop apps the users >> LIKE getting a clean slate and getting rid of that antiquated bloated >> monster for a new clean run at doing business. >> >> Instead of telling users ho

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Allen
oh goody. Soon the world will know our secrets Al -Original Message- From: AndyD The total rollout was many tens of millions. I haven't heard what's happened in the last 5 years or so but a quick Google shows they are currently shedding nearly 20% of jobs including IT and 'embracing th

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: > Hmm. I guess what I wouldn't want is someone to just bundle what I've > done and then sell it with little to no improvements. But what are the odds of that happening? And even if they did that, they would have to give you full copyright

Re: Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread AndyD
When I left the place was overrun with consultants at 20x my salary and they were trying to recruit replacements for those - with 5 years SAP experience for local govt salaries (still twice mine, but they had no chance - the consultants were also recruiting). This was being railroaded through b

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Kevin Cully
Hmm. I guess what I wouldn't want is someone to just bundle what I've done and then sell it with little to no improvements. However, if someone picked up the project and really ran with it after adding value, then I'd love that. For example, if you and Paul, (and others) wanted to pick up this

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: > Is it that unusual? To prevent people from bundling up my work and > selling it when my intention is to have it available for free? I guess > if it is free from me, then why would anyone pay for it? I guess that's > the thinking? Wha

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Kevin Cully
Is it that unusual? To prevent people from bundling up my work and selling it when my intention is to have it available for free? I guess if it is free from me, then why would anyone pay for it? I guess that's the thinking? On 03/05/2012 10:32 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > > I was all set to recomm

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: > Hello Ted, > Here's what I want: > 1. Feel free to use this code for paid and unpaid services. > 2. You can distribute this code but this license has to go with it. > 3. You can't compile this code and sell it as if it was your product, > even

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Kevin Cully
Hello Ted, I tried a few of the "License selector" websites but I couldn't find one that seemed to fit with my intentions, although I would think it very simple! Here's what I want: 1. Feel free to use this code for paid and unpaid services. 2. You can distribute this code but this license has

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: > The source code for the converter is free and available for download for > compiling in Visual Foxpro 9. When you say free :) have you picked out a license yet? It's worth some consideration. Here are a couple of good resources: http://

Re: [ANN] Visual Foxpro to Real Studio Converter

2012-03-05 Thread Alan Bourke
Nice! -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable

Re: [NF] why learn how a new M$ product could be better

2012-03-05 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 05/03/12 02:34, MB Software Solutions, LLC escribió: > On 3/3/2012 10:13 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Thierry Nivelet >> wrote: >>> Sorry if I sound a bit commercial, but I think FoxInCloud is a good >>> candidate to fill the gap Jean mentions. >>> >>> The poi

Re: [NF] A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to The Internet

2012-03-05 Thread Alan Bourke
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012, at 06:39 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > I navigate to www.woot.com every day. Today it would not load. downforeveryoneorjustme.com is useful in these situations. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Mess