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2015-03-12 Thread John Weller
PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY Thank you to EVERYONE for their input in this Thread. FYI - I got the job offer today - and will be starting the new job in a little over 2 weeks

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-12 Thread Allen
and me. good to hear good news for a change Al -Original Message- From: John Weller Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:19 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY +1. Well done! John Weller 01380 723235 079763 93631 Sent from my

[NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-12 Thread Stephen Russell
This is ONLY for your work and not at all for customers to use. It is FULL bore SQL server with all the bells and whistles in it allowing you to sell better versions of SQL to your clients. You get full BI, SSRS, SSIS, SSAS to learn how to work with all the no cost add-ons to paid for Sql

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2015-03-12 Thread vrfx
Thanks Ted! - Original Message - From: Ted Roche Date: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:55 am Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Thank you to EVERYONE for their input

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2015-03-12 Thread vrfx
Agreed! Thanks! -K- - Original Message - From: Allen Date: Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:28 am Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com and me. good to hear good news for a change Al -Original Message- From: John Weller

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2015-03-12 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Christof Wollenhaupt christof.wollenha...@foxpert.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: 10 gigs just gets you more time till you start to run out of space so learn how to shrink logs. There should

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-12 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Thank you to EVERYONE for their input in this Thread. FYI - I got the job offer today - and will be starting the new job in a little over 2 weeks! Great news! Best of luck with the new job! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche

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2015-03-12 Thread vrfx
Thanks John! :-) -K- - Original Message - From: John Weller Date: Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:19 am Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com +1. Well done! John Weller 01380 723235 079763 93631 Sent from my iPad On 11 Mar

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2015-03-12 Thread vrfx
Thanks Virgil! - Original Message - From: Virgil Bierschwale Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 7:17 pm Subject: RE: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com congrats -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com

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2015-03-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
In the 70ties all properties, owners etc. of Belgium was contained in a 30 Gb hierarchical db which at the time was considered to be rather big A+ jml --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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2015-03-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: When I got to the company the db was 15 gig and the log was 400+ gig. -- Stephen Russell ROFL A+ jml --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept)

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2015-03-12 Thread Charlie
On 3/11/2015 5:27 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ted Rochetedro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Richard Kayerk...@invaluable.com wrote: Good to know, Vince, and I gladly stand corrected. MS was not so generous with the tools

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-12 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: When I got to the company the db was 15 gig and the log was 400+ gig. -- Stephen Russell ROFL -

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2015-03-12 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt
Temp data is written into the database? I think you mean Transactions are written to the .log of the database unless you override that. What I mean is data temporarily being loaded into the database. I've often seen import processes implemented by loading data into a processing table in the

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-12 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Christof Wollenhaupt christof.wollenha...@foxpert.com wrote: Temp data is written into the database? I think you mean Transactions are written to the .log of the database unless you override that. What I mean is data temporarily being loaded into the

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2015-03-12 Thread Dave Crozier
+1 from here as well Kurt! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 12 March 2015 08:20 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY +1. Well done! John Weller 01380 723235 079763

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2015-03-12 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Thanks Jerry!! -K- On 3/12/2015 6:36 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: FYI - I got the job offer today - and will be starting the new job in a little over 2 weeks! Great news! Best of luck with the new job! +1. -Jerry [excessive quoting removed by server]

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2015-03-12 Thread Jerry Wolper
FYI - I got the job offer today - and will be starting the new job in a little over 2 weeks! Great news! Best of luck with the new job! +1. -Jerry ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Richard Kaye rk...@invaluable.com wrote: Good to know, Vince, and I gladly stand corrected. MS was not so generous with the tools in the past. Wonder why that it. That's sure going to be a tough price for PostgreSQL to match :) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche

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2015-03-11 Thread Alan Bourke
You have to download them separately. You don't if you download SQLEXPRWT or SQLEXPRADV. Express (SQLEXPR) Express edition includes the SQL Server database engine only. Best suited to accept remote connections or administer remotely. Express with Tools (SQLEXPRWT) This package contains

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Richard Kaye rk...@invaluable.com wrote: Good to know, Vince, and I gladly stand corrected. MS was not so generous with the tools in the past. Wonder why that it. That's sure going to be

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2015-03-11 Thread vrfx
Sounds like, for my purposes of learning MS SQL - the Express version would be plenty sufficient.  Thanks for your input! -K- - Original Message - From: Alan Bourke Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:32 pm Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt

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2015-03-11 Thread Vince Teachout
On 3/11/2015 1:52 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: SQL Express is free to download and gives you the data engine. But it does not give you the management tools (i.e. SSMS or what us old guys refer to as Enterprise Manager) or the other bells whistles mentioned by Stephen. power tools, eg, Management

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2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: The recent Express editions are not that far off the full enchilada these days, to be honest, for most developer and LOB application requirements. Here's the breakdown for SQL Server 2014 Express:

RE: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Richard Kaye
-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of v...@optonline.net Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:23 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY Its quite a coincidence that you should bring this up today - since I just got the offer for the new job - doing

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Vince Teachout tea...@taconic.net wrote: On 3/11/2015 1:52 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: SQL Express is free to download and gives you the data engine. But it does not give you the management tools (i.e. SSMS or what us old guys refer to as Enterprise Manager) or

Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:53 PM, v...@optonline.net wrote: Sounds like, for my purposes of learning MS SQL - the Express version would be plenty sufficient. -- Yeah. That is what I did back in the msde days. Only had 2 gig back then and logs ate my shorts in space.

RE: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread Richard Kaye
: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY On 3/11/2015 1:52 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: SQL Express is free to download and gives you the data engine. But it does not give you the management tools (i.e. SSMS or what us old guys refer to as Enterprise Manager) or the other bells

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2015-03-11 Thread vrfx
into downloading the Express version. L8r, -K- - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:23 pm Subject: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com This is ONLY for your work and not at all for customers to use. It is FULL

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2015-03-11 Thread Alan Bourke
- - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:23 pm Subject: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com This is ONLY for your work and not at all for customers to use. It is FULL bore SQL server with all

Re: RE: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY

2015-03-11 Thread vrfx
Gotcha. Thx, -K- - Original Message - From: Richard Kaye Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:52 pm Subject: RE: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY To: profoxt...@leafe.com SQL Express is free to download and gives you the data engine. But it does not give you

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2015-03-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
congrats -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:16 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] How cheap is it to get SQL Server Developer? VERY Thank you to EVERYONE for their input in this Thread. FYI

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2015-03-11 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Thank you to EVERYONE for their input in this Thread. FYI - I got the job offer today - and will be starting the new job in a little over 2 weeks! :-) -K- On 3/11/2015 5:27 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015

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2015-03-11 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: 10 gigs just gets you more time till you start to run out of space so learn how to shrink logs. There should never be the need to shrink logs. Growing logs are a sign of a misconfigured or misused system: - The