of mainstream support.
Cheers MS!
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Oh it has a lot but for serious work it doesn't help when you can't
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Gil: I downloaded PostgreSQL based on the recommendations I received
from the Dabo group. I don't have the book, but I am using PostgreSQL
MS **does** give away developer tools.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/windows/
I asked on a couple of occasions at Prague devcons if we could have vfp
express but the answer was always a) difficult to know what to cut and b)
difficult to do and no resources available.
otoh I don't see
I don't know if they have Penny Henny in the US.
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Probably g. It's been a long time since I read those to my children!
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Andy Davies wrote:
MS **does** give away developer tools.
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I asked on a couple of occasions at Prague devcons if we could have vfp
express but the answer was always a) difficult to know what to cut and b)
difficult to do and no
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I was in the British Army once upon a time...
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Happy days! Left Handed Screwdrivers in the RAF in my day and lots of
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On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Robert Jennings wrote:
Your thoughts on all of the above will be appreciated.
I wonder if they would guarantee that apps written in .Net today will
run on the current OS
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Ed,
I hear you!
It's just, I'm going to have to give my customers a roadmap of where we are
going. Otherwise they may loose confidence in us as a company and go
elsewhere
if they disable everyone's C# applications - which according to the EULA
they could well do!
Does it?
Just imagine that Microsoft write Office 2007 in C#
Highly unlikely.
Now Microsoft remove support for C# from Windows.
Highly unlikely.
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if they disable everyone's C# applications - which according to the EULA
they could well do!
Does it?
Just imagine that Microsoft write Office 2007
UK law (which overrides the EULA :0 ) says that you can reverse
engineer any software to resolve a bug.
The killer is that you dont own the tools just licence them and they
have the right to cancel your licence at any time for any reason. This
is the same for nearly all business software (in
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UK law (which overrides the EULA :0 ) says that you can reverse
engineer any software to resolve a bug.
The killer is that you dont own the tools just licence them and they
have the right to cancel your licence at any time for any
On Apr 3, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
It's just, I'm going to have to give my customers a roadmap of
where we are going. Otherwise they may loose confidence in us as a
company and go elsewhere!
Just imagine that Microsoft write Office 2007 in C#
Now Microsoft remove
I'm going to have to give my customers a roadmap of where we are going.
Don't Panic Mr Jennings!
imho you're getting het up for no reason. Trust me, your customers do *not*
want to think about what may happen after 2015 or 2020 or 2025; if you
don't mention it they almost certainly won't ask -
Agreed. 98% of customers will start to worry only if/when the software
can't run on whatever new OS MS have introduced - ie 2015+
Andy Davies wrote:
I'm going to have to give my customers a roadmap of where we are going.
Don't Panic Mr Jennings!
imho you're getting het up for no reason.
will still be around
and running on OS's out there.
If you read all these RE: Another Life after VFP thread? mails most people
are looking at something different, some .Net, Python, Dabo, Lamp and others I
cannot remember but are in the posts.
Every single option has it's drawbacks. VFP came from good
life after VFP thread?
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I'm going to have to give my customers a roadmap of where we are going.
Don't Panic Mr Jennings!
imho you're getting het up for no reason. Trust me, your customers do *not*
want to think about what may happen after 2015 or 2020
?
Robert
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Agreed. 98% of customers
That doesn't hold. I produce product road maps for the next 5 or 10
years by default and are revised every so many milestones so someone
looking to depreciate a core development over 10 years with a business
window for the product of maybe double that would be a little wound up
by their
In my honest opinion
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Brian Abbott wrote:
Agreed. 98% of customers will start to worry only if/when the
software
can't run on whatever new OS MS have introduced - ie 2015+
I don't think that that's accurate. If Microsoft introduces
SonOfVista next year, and VFP doesn't run
It always makes me think of people who put 'Without prejudice' on
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My experience has been primarily in the automotive industry and there
is a very good decision making criteria that is used pretty
universally called the five whys.
Wee need to re-write all of our existing code base in .NET
potentially costing hundreds of thousand or
11/04/2017 is the Date Vista dies
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
It's just, I'm going
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
11/04/2017 is the Date Vista dies
I understand. So you're prepared to tell all your clients and
potential clients that they can not upgrade to the latest version of
Windows so as to keep using your product?
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In my honest opinion
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Or am I reading things wrong?
Why take a chance?
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:21 AM
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
Wee need to re-write all of our existing code base in .NET
potentially costing hundreds of thousand or even millions of dollars.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Because your old code is less adapatable.
To what?
And why is
thanks
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IMHO also is In My Humble Opinion
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
11/04/2017 is the Date Vista dies
I understand. So you're prepared to tell all your clients and
potential clients that they can not upgrade to the latest
Hmm, I thought that's what 'supported' meant. Anyone else know for sure?
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Brian Abbott wrote:
Agreed. 98% of customers will start to worry only if/when the
software
can't run on whatever new OS MS have introduced - ie 2015+
I don't
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
Of course not. They buy a new PC and the get the new OS! It's got to
work with whatever version of windows they have.
Then that's what you need to get assurance from Microsoft on: does
support for VFP until 2015 mean that they will
IMHO also is In My Humble Opinion
And generally means the opposite to 'Humble' :-)
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At best you would have to pay for it at worse (
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifedevtool )
*10. What happens when an operating system update, such as a newer
version of Windows, introduces new functionality or data types that were
not supported in the original release of a currently
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
Of course not. They buy a new PC and the get the new OS! It's got to
work with whatever version of windows they have
Andy,
We have already had one comment on it and they asked us what we are going
to do about it!
Robert
tell them that your app *will* work after 2015
- 'cos it will
If Microsoft introduces SonOfVista next year, and VFP doesn't run on it,
they won't be guaranteeing a fix for VFP Or am I
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Dave Crozier wrote:
Alan,
If you look in the VFP EULA:
Section 4.
You may not:
* work around technical limitations in the software
...
I think you must admit that this is the equivalent of disabling your
software i.e you can't use it legally, and it covers a number of other
scenarios.
On 4/3/07, Robert Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just imagine that Microsoft write Office 2007 in C#
Very unlikely. MS views DotNet as something users write applications
in. They consider themselves above that.
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Robert Jennings
Once upon a time a wise man had a donkey, and to make a few bob out of
local yokels he used to make the donkey talk (ventriloquism).
Now the ruler came to the wise man and demanded on pain of death that he
teach the ruler's horse to talk also.
On 4/3/07, Robert Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the only thing for it is to write everything in C
Or write it in a language whose source code you have (or is free to
obtain), which can be compiled in C.
That's how most open source languages work: Perl, Python, Ruby and the
rest.
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Just imagine that Microsoft write Office 2007 in C#
Very unlikely. MS views DotNet as something users write
ROTFLMFAO
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11/04/2017 is the Date Vista
Ed Leafe wrote:
If Microsoft introduces SonOfVista next year snipped
LOL! Yeah right, Edit was 6-7 years iirc from WinXP to Vista!
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Robert Jennings wrote:
After 2015, will the MS OS'es not support VFP runtime?
Unfortunately I cannot say, at this time. Existing VFP 9 SP2
deployments
will certainly continue to work on today's operating systems even
after
2015. However, it is not possible
Robert Jennings wrote:
I have heard in groups that .Net projects are failing and companies out
there are turning .Net projects into VFP to get them working and delivered.
Can you comment on that?
Unfortunately I am not aware of this data. We would be very interested
in working with
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Alan,
If you look in the VFP EULA:
Section 4.
You may not:
* work around technical limitations in the software
On 4/3/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Crozier wrote:
You may not:... work around technical limitations in the software
But would it be enforceable in a court of law?
MB: beating a dead horse.
http://www.tedroche.com/blog/?p=1369
Posted January 29th, 2005
Ted Roche wrote:
snipped
Once MS started putting silly, meaningless phrases in their license,
it was obvious they were not interested in doing business with people
who wanted to use their product. Imagine your corporate attorney
asking you Did you work around any technical limitations in the
On 4/3/07, Robert Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I right in saying that C will work ion anything. All you have to do
is compile it on the target platform?
Well, all you have to do is a pretty sweeping phrase. C compiler
gods have to work out how to write a compiler for each target
thread?
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Ed Leafe wrote:
If Microsoft introduces SonOfVista next year snipped
LOL! Yeah right, Edit was 6-7 years iirc from WinXP to Vista!
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If they take longer, say 30 years to replace vista, I'll be much happier
:o)
Robert
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Robert Jennings wrote:
In 2014 Vista will no longer be supported.
At the minute they state that extended support will be up until 2017.
Since take-up of Vista hasn't exactly been stellar, I can see that being
extended.
Are you saying that VFP9 will work on Son Of Vista in 2015? If so,
So, porting code to a new platform usually involves more than changing
a compiler switch. How much more depends on the code, the differences
in the target platform, etc.
For a GUI application it also involves branching the code for the
graphics library you're using-- or using a common one,
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st. New rant begins here -
Once MS started putting silly, meaningless phrases
When I was a newbie, I worked for a company that kept two RCA Spectra 70
systems around way past their useful life because the systems hosted two
applications: Billing and Payroll. The programs were written in COBOL.
But it wasn't just COBOL or Spectra 70s. It was the disk drives, and
the
With Microsoft it seems that it's all about the tool - VFP, .NET, Office,
Vista. They have changed the focus from how the tools are used to the tools
It's actually all about the platform. The dev tools, to MSFT, are a
necessary evil, required so that people write applications for Windows.
So I guess times are changing, but why do they have to change?
Well, I get bored pretty easily. s
If you are looking for a new language, first pick a hardware
architecture that will live forever. Then spend an afternoon learning
assembler language (ok maybe two or three afternoons).
Alan Bourke said:
I think it would be safe enough to say that it will at least work as
long as the OS in question still has 32-bit support, be that as a 32-bit
OS or as a 32-bit VM under a 64-bit OS.
Quite, and 'son of Vista' *will* have 32 bit support
Andrew Davies MBCS CITP
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Alan Bourke said:
I think it would be safe enough to say that it will at least work as long as
the OS in question still has 32-bit support
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I assume we can still run 8 bit apps???
If the son of Vista can run 32 bit, then there should be no logical reason why
VFP will not run.
The only thing is, Microsoft will not commit to anything by saying Yes, VFP
will run
question to answer.
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I assume we can
On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Robert Jennings wrote:
Your question is, will VFP9 work on an OS that will be released 10
years into the future. That is really an impossible question to
answer.
That's pretty clear, IMO. Microsoft will not do anything to ensure
that it will continue
On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Robert Jennings wrote:
My Reply to them..
You should also ask them if they can guarantee that apps written
in .Net today using VS and the current .Net framework will run on
whatever OS is current in 2015.
At least that will give you
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= Sounds like 'go'. A few moments to learn, a few lifetimes
= to master.
=
= But how can I publish the Hacker's Guide to assembler if
= there are only
= 17 commands? Ack!
=
= Whil
=
A piano has only 88 keys. They each work the
=
= You should also ask them if they can guarantee that
= apps written in .Net today using VS and the current .Net
= framework will run on whatever OS is current in 2015.
=
= At least that will give you something to compare it to.
=
= -- Ed Leafe
I wonder how many divorced people
On Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:48 PM Ed Leafe wrote:
That's pretty clear, IMO. Microsoft will not do anything to
ensure that it will continue to work; if it
does, well, that's just dandy.
Sounds like a bet the company strategy to me!
It has Always been that way with FoxPro/Xbase.
On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Hal Kaplan wrote:
I wonder how many divorced people were at one time married to
someone who professed eternal love and devotion to them.
When did Microsoft profess enternal love to anyone or anything
besides their share price?
-- Ed Leafe
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Hal Kaplan wrote:
I wonder how many divorced people were at one time married to someone who
professed eternal love and devotion to them.
On my way to being one of those statistics... (b*tch!)
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Ed Leafe wrote:
On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Hal Kaplan wrote:
I wonder how many divorced people were at one time married to
someone who professed eternal love and devotion to them.
When did Microsoft profess enternal love to anyone or anything
besides their share price?
All that stock tied to the pension companies and they have little or no
morals past the bottom line.
Plus it is a legal responsibility of a public listed company board to
maximise the return to the shareholder and they wont allow something
that could loose money to be left alone.
Ironically
On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:42 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
But many would argue that that's all they should profess tothe
stockholders. Dontcha just love capitalism?
Sure, capitalism is fine. But there are so many people who have to
read in personal attacks when you state that
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Michael Hawksworth wrote:
Is it legal to to diversify into Ed and Ted, don't they have those
names
under copyright?
Yes, it is. Since I'm older than Ted, I had the rights to 'Ed'
first, forcing him to use the 'Ted' variation so as not to dilute my
Ironically if MS were to give there development tools away that would be
a breach of the monopoly laws and they would get sued.
MS **does** give away developer tools. They've always made compilers
and SDK kits available, and now they're offering full IDE's(with some
features stripped, of
But they can only offer stripped down versions that the professional
developers don't want and that meet roughly the existing free market tools.
If they gave away Visual Studio Pro Ultimate super-dooper (or whatever
the latest name is) they would be hailed as great by those using the
tools and
=
= I wonder how many divorced people were at one time married
= to someone
= who professed eternal love and devotion to them.
=
= When did Microsoft profess enternal love to anyone or
= anything besides their share price?
=
= -- Ed Leafe
=
Oops. I am sorry, Ed. I had no idea that
But they can only offer stripped down versions that the professional
developers don't want and that meet roughly the existing free market tools.
If they gave away Visual Studio Pro Ultimate super-dooper (or whatever
the latest name is) they would be hailed as great by those using the
tools
Hal, just for fun, imagine IBM adding a new access method (XAM) and then
burning the 390 OS onto a chip.
If you recall structured programming constructs implemented with macros,
you know that the macro assembler could have provided proper building
blocks all along, but we didn't see it that way
Derek Kalweit wrote:
I haven't tried each version independently, but looking at the feature
list comparisons, the free 'express' versions don't look to be
crippled to the point that people can't write decent desktop and web
applications with them. Here's a link that compares them:
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On Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:48 PM Ed Leafe wrote:
That's pretty clear, IMO. Microsoft will not do anything to
ensure that it will continue to work; if it
does, well, that's just dandy.
Sounds like a bet
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Where I work now, it is VFP7 which was released 6 years ago and does the
job.
I
If I didn't have MSDN already, I'd download and use the Express
editions vs. buying the pro or even standard edition, most likely.
Looking at that chart, the freebie version seems to have a lot (or
enough) stuff (especially for the cost)??!? What's missing that's
obvious that makes it a
requirements.
Gil
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So, in case anyone else is interested in the book (Whil, are you going to
put it into your offerings?), the title is PostgreSQL 8 For Windows,
written by Richard Blum. If Whil is going to offer it (hint, hint), then
that is who we ought to consider purchasing through. In any event, it is
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Am I doing something wrong?
There are some newer features in VFP9 that could
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
Wee need to re-write all of our existing code base in .NET
potentially costing hundreds of thousand or even millions of
dollars.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Because your old code is less adapatable.
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