Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Gene - agreed. Although, now according to Ted - we are NOT so Unusual! > :-) I think I am being misquoted out of context! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-08 Thread Kurt Wendt
, 2016 4:16 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? At 11:30 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: >On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: [snip] > > Myself - never really worked within Frameworks. They just weren't > used on t

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Fletcher Johnson
Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 7:30 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imag

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 07:40 2016-11-07, Dave Crozier wrote: Frameworks are ok but only when you want to do the things that the framework allows. And at that point, you may be so deep in that it is made difficult to break out. This applies more generally to the approach one takes to one's app. Some

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 11:30 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: [snip] > Myself - never really worked within Frameworks. They just weren't used on the various jobs I worked at. I did work on this one system - where they guy had created Classes - and I used his exist

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread John Weller
+1 John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of > Jean Laeremans > Sent: 07 November 2016 15:57 > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? &

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread José Enrique Llopis
2016 18:00 Para: profox@leafe.com Asunto: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? Build my own set of custom classes (not worthy of calling a 'framework' ) but works for all my in-house projects. Spend lot of time building a Data layer on the premise that I will change the backen

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > > I also find that a set of classes, well written and tested are the best > way to generate an application and they are easily updateable/modified > using either a bae class update or using subclassing. > - Isn't that what a fram

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > Frameworks are ok but only when you want to do the things that the framework > allows. What was it you wanted to do that the framework wouldn't? > I also find that a set of classes, well written and tested are the best way > to generate an

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Ajit Abraham
-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:31 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread José Enrique Llopis
++1 -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Jean Laeremans Enviado el: lunes, 07 de noviembre de 2016 16:57 Para: ProFox Email List Asunto: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? +1 On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Dave Crozier wrote

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Jean Laeremans
teable/modified > using either a bae class update or using subclassing. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt > Sent: 07 November 2016 15:25 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: RE: Friday Poll: What fra

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Dave Crozier
-Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: 07 November 2016 15:25 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? Hey Ted - I hear ya - as I can also type fast. Learned touch-typing back in my Jr. year in high

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Kurt Wendt
2-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:31 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt We

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-06 Thread Lew Schwartz
Me too. -Lew Schwartz On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing > to pay. > > Laurie > > On 4 November 2016 at 14:29, Ted Roche wrote: > > > I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-06 Thread Laurie Alvey
Thanks Ed, didn't know that. Laurie On 5 November 2016 at 13:21, Edward Leafe wrote: > On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > > > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was > willing > > to pay. > > Codebook was (still is) free. > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > > > [

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-05 Thread Edward Leafe
On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing > to pay. Codebook was (still is) free. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: ht

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-05 Thread Man-wai Chang
Actually, it is just a very simple one, so simple that I dunno whether it's a framework or not. :) On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? _x_ Built my own -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-04 18:36, Bill Anderson wrote: To me this comes off a bit of "Floor Wax/Dessert Topping", except for one important feature -- it works. BWAHAHAHAHA LOVE THAT SNL SKIT!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscri

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-04 10:29, Ted Roche wrote: So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? __ Built my own Rolled my own years ago. Built on the logical n-tier concept. Been serving MBSS very well since 2004! ___ Post Messages to: ProF

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Bill Anderson
Ted, Fox Express is my preferred framework. Grokking this framework is a great educational experience. I end up on a lot of VMP projects, so I know it's a popular framework, probably the most popular VFP framework out there. I think of it as a hybrid framework, a mix of RAD and OO. To me this com

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Kevin J Cully
s buy that framework for the projects that I've worked on. -Kevin -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:30 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? So, what fram

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Ted - You must have a Lot of extra time on your hands - what with creating > all these Polls! I type fast. And it's not like I haven't thought about this stuff for 25 years. And my commute averages around zero minutes. > Myself - never reall

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Kurt Wendt
o: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imagine starting an application and not having to worry about how t

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gojko B.
Codemine Gojko B. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archi

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gojko B.
Codemine Gojko B. At 15:29 4.11.2016, you wrote: I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imagine starting an application and not having to worry about how to get the menu working (Help, A

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 07:29 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: [snip] So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? __ Built my own It is this or nothing. My boss has a way of asking for things that break my paradigm. I would rather be trying to rework my code than someone else's.

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Laurie Alvey
Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing to pay. Laurie On 4 November 2016 at 14:29, Ted Roche wrote: > I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original > Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), > Massachusetts. > >

Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imagine starting an application and not having to worry about how to get the menu working (Help, About, Copy/Cut/Paste, Print settings) and getting ba