Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ted Roche
How many versions of VFP do you work with? I have a couple of versions installed, in order to support clients who are locked in for some reason or another. Learn, use and master 3, because that's the future. Fall back to 2 if you run into that (rare) app that still requires it. It's okay to keep m

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Alan Bourke
Paul I'm currently learning Python too via the Django framework. Unless you have a lot of legacy code to maintain or third party libs that are stuck on 2.x then 3 all the way IMO. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, at 08:32 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > I

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Paul H. Tarver
] Python: 2.x vs 3.x How many versions of VFP do you work with? I have a couple of versions installed, in order to support clients who are locked in for some reason or another. Learn, use and master 3, because that's the future. Fall back to 2 if you run into that (rare) app that still requir

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Paul H. Tarver
, Inc. Email: p...@tpcqpc.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:52 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x Paul I'm currently learning Python too via the Django f

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hi Paul, Definitely Python 3. For all but the most narrow use case you can ignore the FUD about Python 2 vs Python 3. Welcome to the club! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 19, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > There seems to be valid arguments for both sides on the interwebs, but what > do the VFP programmers who use Python advise? Python 3 is the future. Python 2 is the past. So here's the thing: if you're working on an existing app that was writt

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 19, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > I guess that was part of the question. The installation for Python 3.x sets > up paths and other stuff that I thought would be exclusive to one version or > the other. But I guess you are saying they coexist happily, correct? Python has virtua

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > And if you need an additional nudge, support for Python 2.x will end in 2020 Sounds like it's time for a Y2K2X crash program! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Paul H. Tarver
Gotta say, right now it is all very confusing. From all the different frameworks and ide's and modules and platforms and licensing and versions I'm making myself crazy trying to figure out how to proceed. All I want to do is find a language and/or platform to build windows desktop (for now, we

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > > All I want to do is find a language and/or platform to build windows desktop > (for now, web later) applications with strong easy database support and > distribute the applications commercially that doesn't cost an arm and a leg > though

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Paul H. Tarver
I wondered when we would get to Dabo. But I assumed after your comment that 3.x Python was the future that Dabo might work with 3. How can I reconcile the two pieces of advice? Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >> On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Paul

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-20 12:49, Paul H. Tarver wrote: Gotta say, right now it is all very confusing. From all the different frameworks and ide's and modules and platforms and licensing and versions I'm making myself crazy trying to figure out how to proceed. All I want to do is find a language and/or platf

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 20, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > > I wondered when we would get to Dabo. But I assumed after your comment that > 3.x Python was the future that Dabo might work with 3. > > How can I reconcile the two pieces of advice? Easy: Dabo depends on a library called 'wxPython' (https

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
If you just want to build Windows desktop apps, learn something else. Something like Xojo, or C# and one of the .NET presentation frameworks. Python is an excellent general purpose language and has many fantastic frameworks for web apps. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm O

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Laurie Alvey
If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? Laurie On 21 August 2017 at 08:04, Alan Bourke wrote: > If you just want to build Windows desktop apps, learn something else. > Something like Xojo, or C# and one of the .NET presentation frameworks. > > Python is an excellent gen

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c)
VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Laurie Alvey Enviado el: lunes, 21 de agosto de 2017 13:01 Para: ProFox Email List Asunto: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x If you&#x

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Paul H. Tarver
tpcqpc.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:47 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Iva

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Thierry Nivelet
> > -Mensaje original- > De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Laurie Alvey > Enviado el: lunes, 21 de agosto de 2017 13:01 > Para: ProFox Email List > Asunto: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x > > If you're building Windows database apps, what's

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
Nothing, but I wouldn't use DBF files. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, at 06:00 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? > > Laurie > > On 21 August 2017 at 08:04, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > If you jus

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
t; > > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ivan > Martinez (imvh.g.c) > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:47 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x > > VFP is the best but it´s obsolete

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-21 15:53, Alan Bourke wrote: Nothing, but I wouldn't use DBF files. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, at 06:00 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? Laurie Exactly. I've been using MySQ

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-21 13:47, Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) wrote: VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez Ivan, When is VFP going to stop running? If it runs on Windows 10 today, and M$ is just patching Windows 10 from here out, my wager is that our VFP9 apps will con

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread AndyHC
++1 On 22-Aug-17 3:06 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2017-08-21 13:47, Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) wrote: VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez Ivan, When is VFP going to stop running? If it runs on Windows 10 today, and M$ is j