Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-04 Thread Derek Kalweit
> > it is often said that one of the main strengths of Python is the large > > number of classes available - but - the choice thing again - how > > do you > > find out what is available in any particular area? > Google is your friend, my son. ;-) Until you host websites and they f*** y

RE: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-04 Thread Allen
And he is watching you Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe at 3:45 AM, Andy Davies wrote: > it is often said that one of the main strengths of Python is the large > number of classes available - but - the choice thing again -

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 4, 2007, at 3:45 AM, Andy Davies wrote: > it is often said that one of the main strengths of Python is the large > number of classes available - but - the choice thing again - how > do you > find out what is available in any particular area? Google is your friend, my son. ;-)

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-04 Thread Michael Hawksworth
10 or 20 years experience ;) -- Regards Michael. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-04 Thread Andy Davies
> because the classes we based it on are freely available it is often said that one of the main strengths of Python is the large number of classes available - but - the choice thing again - how do you find out what is available in any particular area? Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ed, > I second Ted's comment that Dabo is not the way to learn Python. You will get > so much more out of Dabo if you already know Python. Thank you! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/l

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Sales Info wrote: > I'm trying to like Python. Haven't had my "aha" moment yet. Plan on > downloading the latest Dabo release soon and giving it another try. I second Ted's comment that Dabo is not the way to learn Python. You will get so much more out of Dab

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ted, > Just as I've used HTML-Kit, VFP, West-Wind, SQL Server, IIS, Windows, > SlickEdit, SourceSafe, Visual MaxFrame, Codebook, FoxFire!, Stonefield and > more in my toolbox in my VFP days, I think it's important to be quite > familiar with a variety of tools, platforms and languages ... Gre

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/3/07, Sales Info <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW: What direction are you moving in - Python, PHP, Ruby, other, all? I'd love to answer "All," but I'm not twenty any more, when I listed a dozen languages I had worked in on my resume. That was a long time ago (and there weren't many more than

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ed, > Of course, you can create your own! You missed your calling. You should have been in marketing! Gotta find some time and lock myself away with Dabo & Python for a day. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: ht

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Sales Info
Ted, > Or go to the far more civilized wiki and read the collective wisdom: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments Perfect! BTW: What direction are you moving in - Python, PHP, Ruby, other, all? Here's where I'm at in my "evolution" ... I'm loving PHP - it feels prett

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Sales Info wrote: > Note to self: ... too many damn choices ;) Of course, you can create your own! That's not as far-fetched as it may seem. Look at the Dabo editor: in many ways, it's much more advanced than the VFP editor, yet it took the two of

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/3/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go to the python mailing list and ask about favorite editors if you want > to see a flame war. Or go to the far more civilized wiki and read the collective wisdom: http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments > Note t

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Malcolm Greene
Whil, > Go to the python mailing list and ask about favorite editors ... Was looking for feedback from a VFP developer perspective, but will check out the mailing lists and forums - good suggestions! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Sub

RE: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Sales Info
Dave and Ed, Thanks for your feedback! Note to self: ... too many damn choices ;) Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> > As Whil likes to point out, the problem here is that you have > *choices*! Problems, problems reminds me of the Russian Premier, when called in the middle of the night in the Bond film about some impending disaster or another. Felix or M (or whoever called the Premier) closed th

Re: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > For those of you checking out Python ... anyone using the commerical > version of Python or Python IDE/Editor from ActiveState? > > http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePython/ > > Curious as to what the pros/cons of this product is vs. ope

RE: [NF] Python: Any advantage to ActivateState IDE/Editor?

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crozier
Malcolm, I use the Activestate Komodo editor V3.5 which is what I assume you are referring to. I like the integrated IDE layout and the debugging is excellent once you get it sussed. I have only used it in anger for my PHP work but I looked at Dabo a couple of weeks ago with it and it ran the dem