RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York I am all for banning "fun" in Kangaroo Country. - Original Message - From: "Geoff Flight" To: "'ProFox Email List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
t; > To: "ProFox Email List" > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:30 AM > Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) > New York > > > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Pete Theisen >> wrote: >> >>

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2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
I am all for banning "fun" in Kangaroo Country. - Original Message - From: "Geoff Flight" To: "'ProFox Email List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:51 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

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2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
upid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Pete Theisen > wrote: > >> Perhaps if you live in a dictatorship such as Australia or anywhere in >> the UK, but we have freedom of the press here. Thus, underwear pictures

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > Perhaps if you live in a dictatorship such as Australia or anywhere in > the UK, but we have freedom of the press here. Thus, underwear pictures > per se are not banned. It is tasteless, however. > A bare breast otoh A+ jml ___

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
everyone enjoys. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 4:17 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Who cares

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
alf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:56 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > Link doesn't work http://tinyurl.com/d6gfms but at risk of being repetitive, using the NRA sit har

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2009-01-27 Thread Michael Madigan
0 times our gun death rate. > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com > [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf > Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 1:04 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Madigan
gt; Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) > New York > To: "'ProFox Email List'" > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 11:21 PM > Only a gun-lover could describe 11,624 homicides using the > word 'only'. What >

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > Link doesn't work but at risk of being repetitive, using the NRA sit hardly > gives the figures independent support. Hi Geoff! The "independent" sites are all anti-gu

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > You are starting with the 'specious interpretation' phase of statistics > which places like NRA do. Deaths of criminals don't count (in your view) and > are t

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Link doesn't work but at risk of being repetitive, using the NRA sit hardly > gives the figures independent support. Hi Geoff! The "independent" sites are all anti-gun - just as biased as you claim the NRA to be. Oh, well, bed time. We will pursue this later. -- Regards,

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
lf > Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:37 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) > New York > > Geoff Flight wrote: >> These table for all of USA tells me there were 30,364 firearm deaths,

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > You are starting with the 'specious interpretation' phase of statistics > which places like NRA do. Deaths of criminals don't count (in your view) and > are therefore conveniently ignored. Suicides are ignored because they 'don't > matter' and so on it goes. And even with that

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > These table for all of USA tells me there were 30,364 firearm deaths, 32,637 > suicides PLUS 18,124 homicides. It doesn't seem to give a breakdown of gun > related deaths int

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2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
00 SUICIDES? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: &

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > These table for all of USA tells me there were 30,364 firearm deaths, 32,637 > suicides PLUS 18,124 homicides. It doesn't seem to give a breakdown of gun > related deaths into accident homicide and suicide. Hi Geoff! How about this? http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/R

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Which part of the NRA being an untrsustworthy supplier of stats do you have > troube with? Hi Geoff! As far as I can see you have been quoting some anti-gun source that is just as biased as you claim the NRA is. >>> When pete quoted the NRA as the 'gold-standard' in >>> st

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Lets assume I was wrong and 30,000 is the correct figure. How does that in > any way change the force of my argument? THIRTY THOUSAND people killed by > guns. And you don't see a problem? Ignoring crime related gun deaths is > absurd! One of the major arguments about guns is t

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
m] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:14 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Pete Theisen wrote: > Geoff Flight wrote: >> When pete quoted the NRA as the 'gold-standard' in >

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2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Pete Theisen wrote: > Geoff Flight wrote: >> When pete quoted the NRA as the 'gold-standard' in >> statistics regarding gun deaths you know that his credibility > > Hi Geoff! > > NRA IS the gold stand

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Pete Theisen wrote: > Geoff Flight wrote: >> When pete quoted the NRA as the 'gold-standard' in >> statistics regarding gun deaths you know that his credibility > > Hi Geoff! > > NRA IS the gold standard, if you don't recognize that then you have the > problem, not anyone else. Here you go! Mor

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
rofox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:07 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > Like so many gun-loving Americans you get in some sort

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Like so many gun-loving Americans you get in some sort of frenzy at the > thought of a country that bans them. And then you look at the 50,000 gun Hi Geoff! OK, this doesn't break out the suicides, cops killing crooks, crooks killing each other and crooks killing victims bu

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
skew a figure to prove a point... -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:57 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > When pete quoted the NRA as the 'gold-standard' in > statistics regarding gun deaths you know that his credibility Hi Geoff! NRA IS the gold standard, if you don't recognize that then you have the problem, not anyone else. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ __

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York I know you love pulling facts out of your ass, but it's more like 29,000 deaths. And, 16,000+ are suicides, so I guess you'd prefer that they drink poison or stick their head in the

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2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
T] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Michael Madigan wrote: > I know you love pulling facts out of your ass, but it's more like 29,000 deaths. And, 16,000+ are suicides, so I guess you'd prefer that they drink poison or stick their head in the oven. >

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > I know you love pulling facts out of your ass, but it's more like 29,000 > deaths. And, 16,000+ are suicides, so I guess you'd prefer that they drink > poison or stick their head in the oven. > > There are only 11,624 homicides by gun. > > http://washingtonceasefire.or

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > You just keep believing that and in the meantime 50,000 each year die from > guns while very few do here. Hi Geoff! Both are myths, but you didn't read the link, did you. The 50 k figure includes every conceivable death - crooks killing victims, crooks killing cops, suicid

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Madigan
profox-boun...@leafe.com > [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf > Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:13 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to > congressman Peter King (R) > New York > > Geoff Flight wrote: &g

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > Like so many gun-loving Americans you get in some sort of frenzy at the > thought of a country that bans them. And then you look at the 50,000 gun > deaths in your country and the <100 in our

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2009-01-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > 1. I photograph many times where the sound of a camera is inappropriate. > Concerts, weddings, etc. > > 2. Covering the speaker on the camera will circumvent any laws. > > 3. What's wrong with upskirt photos? LOL > > *

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Like so many gun-loving Americans you get in some sort of frenzy at the > thought of a country that bans them. And then you look at the 50,000 gun > deaths in your country and the <100 in ours. Hi Geoff! http://www.tincher.to/myths.htm -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.

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2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
f Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 10:17 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: Hi Geoff! It certainly doesn't take anything to get you into ad hominem outrage. Australia, and any

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: Hi Geoff! It certainly doesn't take anything to get you into ad hominem outrage. Australia, and any country that bans private ownership of handguns by law-abiding citizens, is a dictatorship. It may be dictatorship by committee, but it is dictatorship nevertheless. It is i

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Madigan
tho is > just absurd. > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com > [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf > Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 9:23 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to > congres

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Geoff Flight wrote: > Breaching privacy but not being identifiable is hardly ok. Some things

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: > Breaching privacy but not being identifiable is hardly ok. Some things are > just wrong - such as this. The camera sound idea tho is just absurd. Hi Geoff! Perhaps if you live in a dictatorship such as Australia or anywhere in the UK, but we have freedom of the press here.

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-27 Thread Geoff Flight
:23 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York Michael Madigan wrote: > 1. I photograph many times where the sound of a camera is inappropriate. Concerts, weddings, etc. > > 2. Covering the speaker on the camera will c

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2009-01-27 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > 1. I photograph many times where the sound of a camera is inappropriate. > Concerts, weddings, etc. > > 2. Covering the speaker on the camera will circumvent any laws. > > 3. What's wrong with upskirt photos? LOL Hi Michael! If the skirt wearer has clean underwear

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2009-01-27 Thread Michael Madigan
1. I photograph many times where the sound of a camera is inappropriate. Concerts, weddings, etc. 2. Covering the speaker on the camera will circumvent any laws. 3. What's wrong with upskirt photos? LOL * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://ww