Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-26 Thread Pascal Jasmin
ikely with the help of an autoincrementing counter to ensure unique names, and then return the names... Call it semi-anonymous. - Original Message - From: Brian Schott To: Programming forum Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:53:33 AM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Pascal,

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-26 Thread Pascal Jasmin
llows invalid fragments:    'T0 % T1' evalT ('(+/';'#)') i.5 2    'T0 % T1' evalT ('(+/';'#)@:(#~0<])') i.5 2.5    sum =: +/    'T0 % T1' evalT ('(sum';'#)@:(#~0<])') i.5 2.5 you can also use multiple T# in template

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Joe Bogner wrote: > > It's easy to see the differences: > >FName_eq NB. v@u # ] > FName@= # ] >FName_eq2 NB. (v u) # ] > (FName =) # ] >FName_eq3 NB. (u v ]) # ] > (= FName ]) # ] >FName_eq4 NB. (u v) # ] --> correct > (= FName) # ] > > Where FName_

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-26 Thread Brian Schott
Pascal, Not bad, at all. I have seen eval before I think, but did not understand its use. Now I am trying to understand its pieces. eval =: 1 : ' a: 1 : m' Am I correct that the `1 : m` part is an explict adverb and that `a:` is its argument that is not even used until eval is executed. I am p

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-26 Thread Joe Bogner
mming < > programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > good post, Raul thank you. > > > > I just want to rant on a pet peave about hooks. > > > > sel=:2 :0 > > (v u) # ] > > ) > > > > is better defined as: > > > > sel=:2 : '

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Raul Miller
4 > > > - Original Message ----- > From: Raul Miller > To: Programming forum > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:35:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > Ah, I see... > > I'd like to draw your attention to something in my code here:

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
Not that I have a great use case for it, in this example.   1 2: sel < i.5 3 4 - Original Message - From: Raul Miller To: Programming forum Cc: Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:35:02 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Ah, I see... I'd like to draw your attention to so

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
verb (that substitutes into an x argument), but still not bad? - Original Message - From: Joe Bogner To: programm...@jsoftware.com Cc: Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:02:46 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > On Fr

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Raul Miller
Ah, I see... I'd like to draw your attention to something in my code here: colN=:3 : 0 {.y&{"1`'' ) '`FName LName Age Company'=: colN"0 i.4 Notice that the expression on the far right is: colN"0 i. 4 That ("0) means that colN is running independently for each value in i.4 Also, I already kne

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Bogner
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > > > So I can generate a string and evaluate it, but is there a better way > than > > evaluating the string? > > > > Here are some options: > > ". (or do - the advantage of do being that it'

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > So I can generate a string and evaluate it, but is there a better way than > evaluating the string? > Here are some options: ". (or do - the advantage of do being that it's a name so you can specify which locale to use). 128!:2 (string shoul

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Bogner
Great video. Thank you At around 5:46 it reminded me of some code that Raul recently shared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC479khP7BY#t=340 The video has: data_get_station =: 4 : ' (I. ( (<&dltb);._2 each (],&';') each LF cut (0 :0) John ;Smith ;31;Acme Frank;Taylor ;45;Acme Jane ;Doe;55;

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread robert therriault
Nice work Martin, I really like Devon's understated approach and the well written description. When the audio got a little out of sync with the screen, you stopped and started off again together. Hopefully this is not too hard to do because I think it is a good solution to what can be a big pr

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Raul Miller
This will be fun to link from, the next time I document a significant J project. Thanks, -- Raul On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Martin Saurer wrote: > Hello all, > > > > There's an new "J in 10 minutes" video: > > J in 10 minutes (2. Desktop Applications) / with narration > > No background

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Vijay Lulla
Very nice! Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Martin Saurer wrote: > Hello all, > > > > There's an new "J in 10 minutes" video: > > J in 10 minutes (2. Desktop Applications) / with narration > > No background sound ;-) > > > > http://youtu.be/zC479khP7BY > > > > Cheers > > > >

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-25 Thread Martin Saurer
Hello all, There's an new "J in 10 minutes" video: J in 10 minutes (2. Desktop Applications) / with narration No background sound ;-) http://youtu.be/zC479khP7BY Cheers Martin -- For information about J for

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-06 Thread robert therriault
Hi Martin, I like the narration. The content and voice are really good, but there seems to be a bit of distortion on the higher frequencies. You usually hear this on S's and Ch's when those sounds are pronounced. You can equalize the sound by reducing the audio above 2k Hz using an audio filter

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-06 Thread yi lu
looping... On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > That's easy to solve! > > Just get someone else to listen to it, instead of you. ;) > > Alternatively, you could listen to the narration tracks. > > Or you can silence the audio on an instance here and listen to something > else. I

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-06 Thread Raul Miller
That's easy to solve! Just get someone else to listen to it, instead of you. ;) Alternatively, you could listen to the narration tracks. Or you can silence the audio on an instance here and listen to something else. I'll recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oKyhEc8Gf0 Or, listen to the ex

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-06 Thread yi lu
The only trouble is the background music :) On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Martin Saurer wrote: > Hello all, > > > > There's an new "J in 10 minutes" video: > > J in 10 minutes (1. Whet your appetite) / with narration > > Music is off ;-) > > The old video with background music is still availab

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-04-06 Thread Martin Saurer
Hello all, There's an new "J in 10 minutes" video: J in 10 minutes (1. Whet your appetite) / with narration Music is off ;-) The old video with background music is still available. The video "J in 10 minutes (4. Steganography) was newly uploaded. There were some typos, and some video qu

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-31 Thread Martin Saurer
Raul, Vijay, Many thanks for your feedback on the 4th J video about steganography. Please note, that at the very end of the video, a download link for the full source code of the example is provided. It's not necessary to read the JoJ article or copy source code from there. Just downlo

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-30 Thread Vijay Lulla
I agree with Raul. This is nice! I also agree about mentioning that the supporting code (crypt, int2rgb, etc.) is in the JoJ link somewhere in the youtube description (About page?). Others not on the mailing list will not have the luxury of knowing about JoJ. In fact, I also hurriedly went to the

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
(I just noticed that this half-finished message was sitting in my drafts folder. Sending it now, incomplete, I need to focus on other things right now..) This is nice! If I may, though, I was looking through your journal of J code, and I just itch to make "improvements" to it. It's not that it's

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-30 Thread Martin Saurer
Hello all, A new "J in 10 minutes" Video is online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQfxSKTUls4 If you are interested in Steganography, take a look. The new video is a sequel to the article in "Journal of J Vol.2 No.2 - October 2013" / "Steganography - the J way". http://www.journal

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-15 Thread Don Guinn
e arguments belong. It is difficult to capture all the > > subtleties of well written code. What I am suggesting is not to make it > > easier, but to make J actually be able to be a skillful teacher. > > > > Linda > > > > -Original Message- > > F

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-15 Thread Raul Miller
asier, but to make J actually be able to be a skillful teacher. > > Linda > > -Original Message- > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Raul Miller > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:57 AM >

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Linda Alvord
r Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:57 AM To: Programming forum Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes We think very differently, I think. Personally, while I have a great respect for what we can do with computers, I think it's a mistake to think solely in terms of what they make easier. (D

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Raul Miller
-Original Message- > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Raul Miller > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:09 AM > To: Programming forum > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > Why would f

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Linda Alvord
re.com] On Behalf Of Raul Miller Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:09 AM To: Programming forum Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Why would f alone provide no definition? I'm having trouble understanding what you are driving at? Thanks, -- Raul On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Lin

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Raul Miller
@-~ >g2=: <./ + [: ([: i. (+ *)) -~ > > but f alone would provide no definition. > > Linda > > -Original Message- > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Kelly > Sent: Friday, March

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Linda Alvord
elly Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:45 AM To: programm...@jsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Good point - however both tacit and explicit follow certain rules of the language- I would put this in terms of a sermon , rather than a dialect- where the preacher deals di

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-14 Thread Brian Schott
Martin, These new videos are top notch. I was not aware that qjide could be used to create a web browser app. That is neat. How is it distinguished from JHS? Nevermind, I thought to find your jwiki page with the answers. Thanks for that. http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/qjide I especially

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Don Kelly
Good point - however both tacit and explicit follow certain rules of the language- I would put this in terms of a sermon , rather than a dialect- where the preacher deals directly to the point vs one who takes a detailed (often circuitive) route to get to the point. Same language- but one

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Yike Lu
Martin -- this looks great. I didn't manage to sit through the original, yet I managed to sit through each of the 10 minute chunks. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Dan Abell wrote: > I think of them as more like accents, whereas APL and J > are dialects of Iverson's platonic ideal language. ;

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Dan Abell
I think of them as more like accents, whereas APL and J are dialects of Iverson's platonic ideal language. ;-) -Dan On 13 Mar 2014, at 21:54, robert therriault wrote: > Well, tacit and explicit could be thought of as dialects, couldn't they? > > Cheers, bob > > On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread robert therriault
Well, tacit and explicit could be thought of as dialects, couldn't they? Cheers, bob On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Don Kelly wrote: > At least J doesn't have dialects. > > Don -- For information about J forums see http://www

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Don Kelly
Whet in English probably originated in your language and the meaning is the same as hvetja.. English is a borrowing or polyglot language -partly from its origins so Viking words came into it as well as Saxon (Germanic) and later Norman French and possibly a smattering of Gaelic, a lot of Latin

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Vijay Lulla
Not programming related but definitely worth checking out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMVpL3B_6Y Pardon me. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > p.s. I am going to have to admit that after watching all those videos I am > starting to get tired of that particular sound t

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Raul Miller
p.s. I am going to have to admit that after watching all those videos I am starting to get tired of that particular sound track. But all music does that to me, sooner or later. So what I did was turn the volume down and in another window and loaded up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idvt-J0M5WU (8

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Raul Miller
I got it to work by switching browsers. Thanks, -- Raul On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Martin Saurer wrote: > Raul, > > > > The videos are all mp4 encoded with default settings of iMovie on my Mac. > > So no flash, and no other special things. > > I tried to view the videos on a Mac, and

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Jim Russell
(No problem viewing all three on my iPhone. "No stinking Flash here...!) > On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:44 AM, "Martin Saurer" > wrote: > > Raul, > > > > The videos are all mp4 encoded with default settings of iMovie on my Mac. > > So no flash, and no other special things. > > I tried to view t

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Dykman
It looks fabulous to be, and that from an up-to-date stock Ubuntu 12.04 installation. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Jim Russell wrote: > Outstanding!!! > >> On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:25 AM, "Martin Saurer" >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Many thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Based

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Jim Russell
Outstanding!!! > On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:25 AM, "Martin Saurer" wrote: > > Hello all, > > Many thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Based upon your > feedback, there are three new videos which hopefully are better than > "Version 1.0". > > 1. Video is split up into three parts: > > J

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Martin Saurer
Raul, The videos are all mp4 encoded with default settings of iMovie on my Mac. So no flash, and no other special things. I tried to view the videos on a Mac, and on Windows 7. Everything seems to work right. Maybe it's a temporary youtube glitch. Please let me know, if the problem p

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Bo Jacoby
Interesting, Björn! In my language 'whet' is called 'hvæsse'. It is common that 'hv' became 'wh' in England around AD 800 when the Danish vikings came there : 'whale' means 'hval', 'what' means 'hvad', 'wheat' means 'hvede', 'when' means 'hvornår', 'where' means 'hvor',  'which' means 'hvilken',

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Raul Miller
I am getting a "video is currently unavailable" message. I'm not sure if that's because of the codec you used, a problem on youtube's side of things or something else. I currently have the flash player turned off - it was acting up on me - but usually youtube has displayed a different message whe

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Björn Helgason
whet is related to hvetja in my language. http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hvetja means both sharpen and encourage. - Björn Helgason gsm:6985532 skype:gosiminn On 13.3.2014 09:31, "Bo Jacoby" wrote: > 'Whet you appetite' should perhaps be 'Wet your appetite'? > > > > > > Den 10:26 torsdag den 1

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Dan Bron
One way to whet one's appetite is to first wet one's whistle. (And you thought *J* was a weird language?) -Dan - Original Message --- Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes From: Devon McCormick Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:04:47 -0400 To: J-program

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Bo Jacoby
Thank you Devon! Den 14:04 torsdag den 13. marts 2014 skrev Devon McCormick : "Whet your appetite" would be idiomatic English.  A whetstone is a stone >one uses for sharpening knives. > > >On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Bo Jacoby wrote: > >> 'Whet you appetite' should perhaps be 'Wet your

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Devon McCormick
"Whet your appetite" would be idiomatic English. A whetstone is a stone one uses for sharpening knives. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Bo Jacoby wrote: > 'Whet you appetite' should perhaps be 'Wet your appetite'? > > > > > > Den 10:26 torsdag den 13. marts 2014 skrev Martin Saurer < > martin

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Bo Jacoby
'Whet you appetite' should perhaps be 'Wet your appetite'? Den 10:26 torsdag den 13. marts 2014 skrev Martin Saurer : Hello all, > >Many thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Based upon your >feedback, there are three new videos which hopefully are better than >"Version 1.0". > >1. V

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-13 Thread Martin Saurer
Hello all, Many thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Based upon your feedback, there are three new videos which hopefully are better than "Version 1.0". 1. Video is split up into three parts: J in 10 minutes (1. Whet your appetite) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q8_kYbTqhY J

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-09 Thread greg heil
heir is complexity in how it >could be monetized, but that would be a nice problem to have. ---~ http://jsoftware.2058.n7.nabble.com/quot-Public-JHS-Servers-quot-td57870.html http://u.tgu.ca/touchquery greg ~krsnadas.org -- from: greg heil ghei...@gmail.com to: Programming forum date: 8 Mar

[Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread David Lambert
: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am I the only one that liked the music? Maybe my tastes are just strange... Thanks, -- Raul -- For information about J forums see http

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Joe Bogner
On Mar 8, 2014 3:00 PM, "Yike Lu" wrote: > > I'm actively trying to come up with reasons to slip it into my daily > routine (which is about 95% Python), and I keep failing. I would have to > spend probably a month or two of off-hours development to get my small > j-table project up to par with Py

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Roger Hui
> In J you transform your data, step after step, squeezing the solution out of them. In APL, what flashes through your mind is a cascade of operations: chasing data through arrays, out of the other end of which come — limping and bruised, you know — seven numbers. After having built up arrays of r

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread EelVex
I've found J is a powerful *thinking tool* like no other. In Python, R, Ruby and others you're writing an algorithm to solve the problem at hand. In J you transform your data, step after step, squeezing the solution out of them. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Yike Lu wrote: > Re: Raul's point

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread greg heil
On 8 March 2014 12:00, Yike Lu wrote: ... >>TouchQuery looks really cool, but it's not a killer app, it's a great tool. I >>mean -- have you ever switched to a language because the IDE was awesome? >i would likely turn that around and ask myself: what languages have i avoided >because they were

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread PMA
Music tends to commandeer my attention, either to listen (if I "like" it) or to shut it out (if I "don't"). Paying attention to something else -- e.g., J -- at the same time is just out of possibility. Still, I gather that not everybody is so-afflicted. Raul Miller wrote: Am I the only one tha

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Arneson
I, too like the music. -Original Message- From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Raul Miller Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 14:44 To: Programming forum Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Am I the only one that

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Raul Miller
Am I the only one that liked the music? Maybe my tastes are just strange... Thanks, -- Raul On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Dan Abell wrote: > First of all, bravo to Martin for putting in the time > and effort to make that video. I think it does a very > good job of showing a newbie why it

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Dan Abell
First of all, bravo to Martin for putting in the time and effort to make that video. I think it does a very good job of showing a newbie why it might be worth learning J. So please---please---take the following criticism as constructive. Concerning the music: I felt the music's emotional content v

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Yike Lu wrote: > To reframe the question of the killer app: What common computing problem > does J uniquely solve, or solve uniquely better? Again, I honestly do not > know. I'm actively trying to come up with reasons to slip it into my daily > routine (which is ab

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Yike Lu
Re: Raul's point about harsh self criticism, I don't think any of this so far has been overly harsh. I certainly didn't mean my comment about the music to be much, other than an observation, perhaps a recommendation for the next time. Re: rest of the comments. Remember as far as "code beauty" and

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Raul Miller
That said... if someone wants to put together a gloomy (or downtempo) promo for J? We could use, those, also. Thanks, -- Raul On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > That's certainly one way of looking at it. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positioning_(marketing) might be a

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Raul Miller
That's certainly one way of looking at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positioning_(marketing) might be another way of looking at this. Look... if *all* you show is your product - no background, no context, no fun, then you might be quite successful at preaching to the choir (that would be us).

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread PMA
I'm surprised that the music discussion continues. I took its instigation as a joke assuming that _any_ music in this context would be distracting at best. PMA wrote: Maybe Stockhausen's _Klavierstuck IX_? It's based on the Fibonacci series. Roger Hui wrote: (1) There is perhaps a generation

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Murray Eisenberg
Distractions are probably good in a promotional video only to the extent that one wishes to divert attention from the product being promoted. Certainly relevant music can add to the impact of a presentation by suggesting a mood, etc. But adding _irrelevant_ music is pointless. On Fri, 7 Mar 20

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-08 Thread Brian Schott
For me one of the killer apps for J was the beauty of the code, in particular I have been enamored of being able to write code that looks like natural sentences and writing sentences that look declarative in the sense that they don't have loops, but may have sub sentences. That is why I tried to wr

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Raul Miller
I can think of worse problems to have, than being "too upbeat". ;) Not having killer apps might be an example of a worse problem to have... :/ So, switching back to "too upbeat" mode... let's start writing some killer apps? If we write enough of them, some of them might catch on? (But, of course,

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Yike Lu
A few comments: I think that having music is better than no music. But I also feel that the music chosen is uhh... too upbeat. Usually music for coding videos is more ambient. Generally, I think that promotional materials need to answer the question "what's the killer app?" Hell, I don't even know

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Raul Miller
Distractions are probably good, to a certain extent, in a promotional video. Not everyone that watches the video is going to want to take action immediately and start solving euler or investing in stocks or whatever else. Ideally, a promotional video should be fun enough that it can find its way th

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread PMA
Maybe Stockhausen's _Klavierstuck IX_? It's based on the Fibonacci series. Roger Hui wrote: (1) There is perhaps a generational difference. Young people might like some background music? -- For information about J forums see

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Roger Hui
Well, sometimes you'd use #: (aka encode) but you'd have to know the number of 10s to put in the left argument: n=: !100x (10&#.^:_1 n) -: (10$~1+<.10^.n) #: n 1 If you're going to resort to benchmarks, let me bring out http://www.jsoftware.com/help/release/digits10.htm , which introduced s

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread John Baker
Very nice. If you've written even a simple macro you will be able to relate to this presentation. You may have a hit. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Roger Hui wrote: > (1) There is perhaps a generational difference. Young people might like > some background music? > > (6) 10&#.^:_1 x converts

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Murray Eisenberg
Thanks, Roger; I suspected Base (#.) was involved; I just didn't think of taking its inverse. Interestingly, although the solution using Base seems closer to the content of the problem -- keeping things in the realm of integers instead of going back and forth to and from strings -- on my system

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Roger Hui
(1) There is perhaps a generational difference. Young people might like some background music? (6) 10&#.^:_1 x converts a number to its decimal digits. Alternatively, "."0":x would be shorter than what's on the video. But we quibble. 10&#.^:_1 ]!100x 9 3 3 2 6 2 1 5 4 4 3 9 4 4 1 5 2 6 8 1

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Murray Eisenberg
A comment on Roger's comment as well as some comments on other aspects of the video. (1) In fact, I find the sound background not just superfluous, but distracting. (Yes, I know that's why we have a mute function on our computers' sound controls.) (2) The background globe graphic is a bit dist

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Bo Jacoby
Yes, impressive. But as usual the part that I could not follow just told me that even if the author can do it easily, I can't. I have been a newbee on J for some years, but a lot of it I still don't master. I still use J602 because I didn't manage to make the later versions run. I love short

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Roger Hui
V. nice. I note that the video basically does not make use of sound in the sense the if you mute it, the information content is the same. The video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT80OseAGs (Sudoku in APL, by John Scholes) has a different approach wrt sound. From what I understand the narratio

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Michael Dykman
very nice. I hope I did not exceed the intent by reporting on twitter. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Jim Russell wrote: > Very nice. Thanks! > >> On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:11 AM, "Martin Saurer" wrote: >> >> Hello all Jers, >> >> >> >> My two cents (or 15 minutes) to show what J can do. >> >> >>

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Jim Russell
Very nice. Thanks! > On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:11 AM, "Martin Saurer" wrote: > > Hello all Jers, > > > > My two cents (or 15 minutes) to show what J can do. > > > > Feedback is welcome. > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJpJt3c11c > >

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Vijay Lulla
om] On Behalf Of Martin Saurer > > Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 2:12 PM > > To: programm...@jsoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > > > Hello all Jers, > > My two cents (or 15 minutes) to show what J can do. > > > https://www.youtu

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Stefano Lanzavecchia
> -Original Message- > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com [mailto:programming- > boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Martin Saurer > Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 2:12 PM > To: programm...@jsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > &

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread robert therriault
Well done Martin, Really high production values. I do think that you could afford to enlarge the workspace window to allow the text to appear larger as the background is not so necessary. You did a great job of setting up your context and letting the viewer know what you were going to cover.

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Brian Schott
I agree with Joe, that is a fine demo of J. It is long enough that you might want to include a table of contents in the details. For example, this was how I did it with another video. Introduction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjlDUGDXDw Install/Launch JHS on host computer: http://www.youtube.c

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Bogner
Very impressive. I was watching the clock in the upper right corner and it seemed like it all happened in real time. If that's the case, your typing is impeccable! Regardless, great demo. The collatz conjecture was very interesting. I had never seen qjide in action so I'll have to experiment with

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Yike Lu
, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Tom Arneson wrote: > > > Very nice, Martin! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Martin > > Saurer > > Sent:

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Ni Bo
e.com > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Saurer > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 07:12 > To: programm...@jsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > Hello all Jers, > > > > My two cents (or 15 minutes) to show what J can d

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Arneson
Very nice, Martin! -Original Message- From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Martin Saurer Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 07:12 To: programm...@jsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes Hello all Jers

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-03-07 Thread Martin Saurer
Hello all Jers, My two cents (or 15 minutes) to show what J can do. Feedback is welcome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJpJt3c11c -- For information about J forum

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-23 Thread Brian Schott
Rosettacode.org is back online. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Raul Miller wrote: > > But rosettacode is offline right now. > > -- > > Raul > -- (B=) -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Jan-Pieter Jacobs wrote: > Everybody likes games, right? Yes and no. ;) If you like we can go into more detail on the chat forum. > mm=: =,&(+/)(~:#[)e.&~.~:#] Nice! > See http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/12497/665 for the explanation > > It uses quite a bi

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-23 Thread Jan-Pieter Jacobs
- > From: Brian Schott > To: Programming forum > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:04:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes > > Pascal, > > I can't remember the sequence of emails, but I do remember asking in a > relevant thread if anyone h

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-22 Thread Pascal Jasmin
hard deadline either.  If you want your video to be more about teaching J, I'm sure that would also be great, and none of us will stop you :) - Original Message - From: Brian Schott To: Programming forum Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:04:03 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogrammi

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-22 Thread Brian Schott
Pascal, I can't remember the sequence of emails, but I do remember asking in a relevant thread if anyone had found a way to make a grid into active cells accepting excel-like formulae, with the idea that many people would find the transition to J easier if that were possible. And if memory serves

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-22 Thread Raul Miller
Yes, exactly. -- Raul On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:08 AM, bill lam wrote: > Old OpengGL (1.x) is still supported on J8 if viedo card OpenGL driver > is opengl 1.x or it provides compatibility profile. Some minor code > modification is needed, please see jwiki and various opengl demos in > qt dem

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-22 Thread bill lam
Old OpengGL (1.x) is still supported on J8 if viedo card OpenGL driver is opengl 1.x or it provides compatibility profile. Some minor code modification is needed, please see jwiki and various opengl demos in qt demo and wd demo. OTOH webgl must use shader language IIRC. Сб, 22 фев 2014, Raul

Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

2014-02-22 Thread Raul Miller
Talking about issues (as opposed to coding itself) probably belongs in chat forum, not programming. We should try to make sure that programming forum messages always includes some J expressions. And not just "sarcastic" expressions like =i.9 Ideally, in programming forum, we should also try to i

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