Re: midi editing question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:

I already try this method but is not take effect.
Now, I'm more interested to know I should buy the apple mouse or not?
because I'm a totally blind, but I mean you say press the physical
mouse can fix the problem, so I want to learn about how do you do?

Thanks

On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice
> that you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse
> clicks: Make sure there are no other windows blocking the window within
> which you're trying to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2
> twice in a row) to bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have
> nothing other than the Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list
> (which should be the foremost window and there should be no other windows in
> that list. If so, focus on that window and close it.
> Hope that helps,
> Slau
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>
>> Hi Slau:
>>
>> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old
>> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
>> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project,
>> can you help me?
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand
>> it well
>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>>
>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and
>> it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: everyone can give me some suggest?

[Tim Liu]

Hi All:

Thanks suggest, I will try.

On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> There are a ton of plug-ins out there that are mostly accessible. that said,
> Avid's stock plug-ins are quite good. There are tons of people who use
> nothing other than the stock plug-ins in their dAWs. Most plug-in developers
> offer trial versions or trial licenses. You can certainly try out some
> plug-ins and decide for yourself. The premium plug-ins that Avid offers are
> great. The stuff from Plug-in Alliance and Sound Toys are fantastic as well.
> Give it a try.
>
> Slau
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I use PT12 on Mac.
>> I want to do the mixing.
>> can suggest some accessible audio mixing plugins is better than avid
>> plugins for me?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: vocal edit question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:


I will try the auto tune, Thanks your suggestion. but I want to know
you say accessible is the PT12 AAX plugin or the main programme?
Thanks


Tim

On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I didn't find Melodyne to be very useable with VoiceOver. It might be
> possible to set up some presets to help but it's not a priority for me. I
> find AutoTune to be very accessible and very useable with VoiceOver.
> HTH,
> Slau
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> If I want to edit the vocal e.g. Intonation, The melodyne is accessible in
>> voice over? If not, How can I use?
>>
>> Thanks all
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Re: The Mix Window question

[Tim Liu]

hi Slau:

OK, Thank you, The Problem is fix.

On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> If your tracks appear to you to be off to the left of the Tracks List table,
> that means your window is scrolled to the right too far. Press the page up a
> couple of times and the tracks will appear to the right of the Tracks List
> table.
>
> Slau
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>
>> hi all:
>>
>> Now I use PT12 on Mac osx10.11
>> My PT mix windows with tracks is separate
>> yesterday I was at work, I don't know I pressing some wrong hot key.
>> In earlier, the tracks was in the mix window, but now the tracks is out of
>> mix windows, Unified on the left.
>> So I want to fix this question, Thanks all.
>> I create new section is not this problem, but my old section have some
>> important data, so I want to fix this problem, Thanks all.
>>
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Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

[Gordon Kent]

Actually, I forgot that the bcf2000 doesn’t 
need drivers for mac, and should still work.  Let’s hope so.  
Gord

From: Kevin Reeves 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

I've been recording to an SSD for the past three years. No problems here, and I 
  Have recorded eight tracks at a time when recording multi track. This is 
directly to the OS drive.  ProTools has been snappy, and incredibly responsive. 
Not only that, but I'm also playing sample libraries off of the exact same 
drive. Not to mention, this is all on an antiquated 2009 MacBook Pro.  When I 
got into this whole SSD thing, Brian Smart told me a long time ago that due to 
the speeds of SSD, I would no longer have to compartmentalize everything that 
I'm doing. He has  proven himself right. I have a secondary hard drive in this 
laptop that is a 750 RPM spinning drive, and I actually noticed a performance 
loss when recording to it. So, the SSD wins. As far as avid not approving SSDs, 
I'm not sure what that's all about. All of the guys on ProTools expert swear by 
solid-state drives, and Have  said nothing about ProTools not working properly 
with it.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:26 AM, TheOreoMonster  wrote:


  Agreed re using SSD for recording drives. Las t i looked avid still didn’t 
qualify SSD’s for audio drives. They are great as OS drives and for holding 
your sample libraries though. Also I assume you aren’t recording more than one 
track at a time and you don’t deal with massive projects with large track/plug 
in counts.  This probably explains why you have no issues with  running off the 
OS drive and for most people in a home studio that may work most times.  

On Apr 28, 2016, at 3:09 AM, Phil Muir  
wrote:

Let’s try that again.  Keep in mind though that SSD drives only have a 
limited amount of write cycles. That's why I personally still won't do that. 
For that reason, SSD drives are great for an OS drive or operating system as 
you are not punishing them in the same way as you do an audio drive.
 



From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 28 April 2016 06:46
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
 
Keep in mind though that SSD drives only have a limited amount of write 
cycles. That's why I personally still won't do that. For thatreason, SSD drives 
are great for an OS drive or opperating system as you are not punnishing them 
in the same way as you do an audio drive.

On 28 April 2016 06:26:49 BST, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
Just upgrade to an ssd. Pro tools does not require 2 drives. It's just best 
practice with spinning drives. I record to my Samsung ssd with no problems on a 
2009 m b p running elcap. 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Steve Martin  wrote: 
  The advantage of removing the DVD drive is so you can have two internal 
Hard drives.  this can come in handy when traveling as Pro tools usually 
requires you to record to an separate HD than your system drive and that way 
you have two drives internally and won’t have to bring an external USB or etc 
drive.  Or just to have a separate OS on each drive. 
On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Phil Muir 
 wrote:
 
Gord.  You don’t need to remove the DVD drive.  You may need to fit a 
larger hard drive and build a Mac installer.  That’s easy enough to do using 
command line tools.  Just use the bootcamp manager to partition the disk for 
you.  Doing that here with my Samsung EVO 500GB drive in this mid 2012 15 inch 
MacBook Pro.
 



From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gordon Kent
Sent: 26 April 2016 02:54
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
 
I might give this serious fault.  
My macbook pro is 4 years old now.  If I ever get a newer mac, it will be a 
tower system, not a laptop.  I could care less about the new features in el 
capitan.  I would rather have pt working the way it should.  Maverick solved 
some of the accessibility problems with pro tools not reading certain numeric 
values and the like.  And apple still hasn’t made the midi studio accessible.  
If I removed the Dvd drive, I could put in a second HD and run boot camp to 
switch between the os’s if I wanted to.
Gord
 
From: Ricky Prevatte
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:40 PM
To: 

Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

[Gordon Kent]

That is what I’m thinking of doing.  I 
would replace the dvd drive with a mechanical hd for audio data..  
Gord

From: TheOreoMonster 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:26 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

Agreed re using SSD for recording drives. Las t i looked avid still didn’t 
qualify SSD’s for audio drives. They are great as OS drives and for holding 
your sample libraries though. Also I assume you aren’t recording more than one 
track at a time and you don’t deal with massive projects with large track/plug 
in counts.  This probably explains why you have no issues with  running off the 
OS drive and for most people in a home studio that may work most times.  

  On Apr 28, 2016, at 3:09 AM, Phil Muir  
wrote:

  Let’s try that again.  Keep in mind though that SSD drives only have a 
limited amount of write cycles. That's why I personally still won't do that. 
For that reason, SSD drives are great for an OS drive or operating system as 
you are not punishing them in the same way as you do an audio drive.
   

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  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Phil Muir
  Sent: 28 April 2016 06:46
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
   
  Keep in mind though that SSD drives only have a limited amount of write 
cycles. That's why I personally still won't do that. For thatreason, SSD drives 
are great for an OS drive or opperating system as you are not punnishing them 
in the same way as you do an audio drive.

  On 28 April 2016 06:26:49 BST, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
  Just upgrade to an ssd. Pro tools does not require 2 drives. It's just best 
practice with spinning drives. I record to my Samsung ssd with no problems on a 
2009 m b p running elcap. 
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 26, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Steve Martin  wrote:

The advantage of removing the DVD drive is so you can have two internal 
Hard drives.  this can come in handy when traveling as Pro tools usually 
requires you to record to an separate HD than your system drive and that way 
you have two drives internally and won’t have to bring an external USB or etc 
drive.  Or just to have a separate OS on each drive. 
  On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Phil Muir  
wrote:
   
  Gord.  You don’t need to remove the DVD drive.  You may need to fit a 
larger hard drive and build a Mac installer.  That’s easy enough to do using 
command line tools.  Just use the bootcamp manager to partition the disk for 
you.  Doing that here with my Samsung EVO 500GB drive in this mid 2012 15 inch 
MacBook Pro.
   

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  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gordon Kent
  Sent: 26 April 2016 02:54
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
   
  I might give this serious fault.  My 
macbook pro is 4 years old now.  If I ever get a newer mac, it will be a tower 
system, not a laptop.  I could care less about the new features in el capitan.  
I would rather have pt working the way it should.  Maverick solved some of the 
accessibility problems with pro tools not reading certain numeric values and 
the like.  And apple still hasn’t made the midi studio accessible.  If I 
removed the Dvd drive, I could put in a second HD and run boot camp to switch 
between the os’s if I wanted to.
  Gord
   
  From: Ricky Prevatte
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:40 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
   
  I am running ProTools 12 and Mavericks. I had problem with Yosemite and 
had to roll back. All of that stuff works well with the latest version of logic 
as well on those older operating systems. I am not going to upgrade myself out 
of house and home I have thisDAW Running well I am going to keep it that way. I 
have a nice quick hard drive in the old laptop I have my CD drive I have no 
interest in a newer Apple Computer.

  Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
   

  On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Gordon Kent  wrote:
But don’t I need to be running el 
capitan to run pro tools 12?  I really liked maverick the best, but I would 
think yossemity would be as far back as you could go.  
Gord
 
From: Ricky Prevatte
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:14 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
 
Hi Gordon I believe if you took your laptop in and 

Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

[Gordon Kent]

I’ll have to try to resurect the project mix.  I think 
the firewire port is screwed up.  
Gord

From: Kevin Reeves 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:20 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

Project mix works great in pro tools as well. Anything that can do h u I is 
fine. Even under elcap 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Phil Muir  wrote:


  No reason why you can’t still use the Behrenger BCF2000 in Pro Tools 12.5 as 
nothing has changed there.

   


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  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Gordon Kent
  Sent: 26 April 2016 01:58
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: my control surface dilemma, a real drag

   

  It’s been quite a while since I’ve used pro tools.  
Back when I was running pt 10 with the older os’s mountain lion etc., I had it 
working great with my alesis master control audio interface/control surface.  
Now alesis is no longer supporting it with el capitan.  I don’t think my 
m-audio project mix or the behringer bcf2000 will work either.  Are we 
relegated to having to buy the Avid artist series surface?  Would that be good 
enough or do we really need to spring for the s3.  

  Gord

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Re: everyone can give me some suggest?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

There are a ton of plug-ins out there that are mostly accessible. that said, 
Avid's stock plug-ins are quite good. There are tons of people who use nothing 
other than the stock plug-ins in their dAWs. Most plug-in developers offer 
trial versions or trial licenses. You can certainly try out some plug-ins and 
decide for yourself. The premium plug-ins that Avid offers are great. The stuff 
from Plug-in Alliance and Sound Toys are fantastic as well. Give it a try.

Slau

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> I use PT12 on Mac.
> I want to do the mixing.
> can suggest some accessible audio mixing plugins is better than avid plugins 
> for me?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: vocal edit question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

I didn't find Melodyne to be very useable with VoiceOver. It might be possible 
to set up some presets to help but it's not a priority for me. I find AutoTune 
to be very accessible and very useable with VoiceOver.
HTH,
Slau

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> If I want to edit the vocal e.g. Intonation, The melodyne is accessible in 
> voice over? If not, How can I use?
> 
> Thanks all
> 
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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice that 
you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse clicks: Make 
sure there are no other windows blocking the window within which you're trying 
to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2 twice in a row) to 
bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have nothing other than the 
Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list (which should be the 
foremost window and there should be no other windows in that list. If so, focus 
on that window and close it.
Hope that helps,
Slau

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> Hi Slau:
> 
> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old 
> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project, can 
> you help me?
> 
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
> Hi Listers, 
> 
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X. 
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand it 
> well 
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job. 
> 
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
> stands that the piano roll is accessible. 
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job. 
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not? 
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> With kind regards, 
> 
> Peter 
> 
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Re: The Mix Window question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

If your tracks appear to you to be off to the left of the Tracks List table, 
that means your window is scrolled to the right too far. Press the page up a 
couple of times and the tracks will appear to the right of the Tracks List 
table.

Slau

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> hi all:
> 
> Now I use PT12 on Mac osx10.11
> My PT mix windows with tracks is separate
> yesterday I was at work, I don't know I pressing some wrong hot key.
> In earlier, the tracks was in the mix window, but now the tracks is out of 
> mix windows, Unified on the left.
> So I want to fix this question, Thanks all.
> I create new section is not this problem, but my old section have some 
> important data, so I want to fix this problem, Thanks all.
> 
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Re: everyone can give me some suggest?

[TheOreoMonster]

The avid plug ins are actually pretty igh quality. dont  discount them
just because they came with your DAW. Plenty of pros still use the
stock avad plug ins.

On 4/29/16, Niklas Karlsson  wrote:
> Hello!
>
> From what I understand, the plug-ins from Izotope are over all accessible.
> Really good quality as well.
>
> Hope you find something good for you!
>
> All the best,
> Niklas
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
>> 29 apr. 2016 kl. 15:22 skrev Tim Liu :
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I use PT12 on Mac.
>> I want to do the mixing.
>> can suggest some accessible audio mixing plugins is better than avid
>> plugins for me?
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: everyone can give me some suggest?

[Niklas Karlsson]

Hello!

>From what I understand, the plug-ins from Izotope are over all accessible.
Really good quality as well.

Hope you find something good for you!

All the best,
Niklas

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> 29 apr. 2016 kl. 15:22 skrev Tim Liu :
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I use PT12 on Mac.
> I want to do the mixing.
> can suggest some accessible audio mixing plugins is better than avid plugins 
> for me?
> 
> Thanks
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vocal edit question

[Tim Liu]

Hi all:

If I want to edit the vocal e.g. Intonation, The melodyne is accessible in 
voice over? If not, How can I use?

Thanks all

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Re: midi editing question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:

I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old 
project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project, can 
you help me?

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>
> Hi Listers, 
>
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X. 
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
> it well 
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job. 
>
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and 
> it stands that the piano roll is accessible. 
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job. 
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not? 
>
> Thanks in advance 
>
> With kind regards, 
>
> Peter 
>

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everyone can give me some suggest?

[Tim Liu]

Hi All:

I use PT12 on Mac.
I want to do the mixing.
can suggest some accessible audio mixing plugins is better than avid 
plugins for me?

Thanks

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The Mix Window question

[Tim Liu]

hi all:

Now I use PT12 on Mac osx10.11
My PT mix windows with tracks is separate
yesterday I was at work, I don't know I pressing some wrong hot key.
In earlier, the tracks was in the mix window, but now the tracks is out of 
mix windows, Unified on the left.
So I want to fix this question, Thanks all.
I create new section is not this problem, but my old section have some 
important data, so I want to fix this problem, Thanks all.

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